trevHCS:
How wide are the sunvisors on most trucks? They installed these on a few vans at my current work, but didn’t realise the sunvisor just nicely covers the internal camera while the forward facing bit works fine. Also handy as you can’t get accused of interfering with the camera using duct-tape etc.
As for legal - unfortunately it seems the fact that they own the van / truck means they can install these cameras. Can usually tell they’re running as there’s a small blue light (no idea why they all use the same blue LED). If they were filming while you were parked up however, then there could be a privacy case I suspect as “break” means “the driver is free to dispose of his / her time as they please”.
I can think of nothing worse. One of the things I like about the job is that I’m not constantly being spied on. I’d give the job up if I was forced to have one.
Radar19:
With regards to the bus thing. Pretty sure the average city bus driver is carrying a large chunk of change by the end of the day and they can be an easy target for any scrote who thinks he’s an 'ard man so it makes sense for CCTV to installed to watch the driver.
I also suspect CCTV on bus drivers has also deterred certain drivers from looking at their phone at the wheel, or letting their mates on for free, slipping change into their own pocket etc.
Point is, it’s not an invasion of privacy.
No this I sat on a committee about, I used to be on the union at Arriva about 15 years ago just before I jacked in bus driving, the cameras where just being introduced with security screens and the drivers where overall pleased with the idea of the cameras.
Three in the bus four external cameras.
The concession was that no camera looked at the driver directly, it could see his ticket machine but and hands but not his face, strange really as 70 other people could see him
It very likely has changed now but there was room for negotiation at that time.
Also back then it was all recorded to disc, old technology.
The reasons why are simple, have an accident and the camera is filming you doing something you should not be doing or perhaps something they consider you should not be doing and bingo you carry the can for the accident. The next thing we as drivers will have to have is personal liability insurance covering for everything from accidents to missing parts of the load.
Juddian:
It’s chilling how some here are so eager to bend over, racing headlong to the bottom.
If Maritime have a problem with numpties ramming people up the arse, simple answer stop employing numpties its a complicated alternative, pay the proper rate, treat your people with respect and cherry pick…or do the other thing and continue the downhill event.
it not only maritime though, insurance firms are now starting too insist that they are fitted and give a discount where they are, i just had one fitted too my car and got £75 discount off my premium for the year
Will save them paying out £1000s if you have an accident and the footage shows you yawning 5 mins before and they won’t pay because they will claim you drive tired ect ect,do you really think a camera pointing at the driver is there for any other reason but to help the insurance company get out of paying out on a claim?!But,you saved £75…go you!!
How will the fact that you drove while tired allow them to refuse a claim…?
£75 better in my pocket than there’s n i got nowt too hide as i don’t drive like a knob unlike some.
Gangan:
The reasons why are simple, have an accident and the camera is filming you doing something you should not be doing or perhaps something they consider you should not be doing and bingo you carry the can for the accident. The next thing we as drivers will have to have is personal liability insurance covering for everything from accidents to missing parts of the load.
you don’t have too travel far on the roads nowadays too see a lorry driver on the phone. not using an earpiece but holding the phone too their ear talking away swaying from side to side like a boat oblivious of whats happening around them.
mattecube:
I fail to see the issue of the camera being on you when your driving! Unless your acting unprofessionally then you deserve to be taken to task
It has got ■■■■ all to do with nothing to hide, would you willinglly take a rubber glove up your arse if your boss told you because ''you have nothing to hide"
Grow a pair man, object to it, if I am nighting out I don’t want somebody perving on me when I am washing my knackers.
I have the same accident type camera that Conor is on about.
Not a problem with the out facing one, but I even have the back facing one taped up, I just refuse to have any type of camera that is much more likely to incriminate me than do me a favour
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Some drivers subservient bend over attitude NEVER ceases to amaze me, and is the reason that the job has turned to crap over the years.
I can just imagine the older drivers I knew taking all this type of ■■■■ when I started as a young lad…in the days when drivers had balls and a backbone.
stevejones:
have another look round man you will see just as many car drivers at it
Absolutely agree Steve. The difference being that we are supposed to be professionals whereas car drivers are merely licence holders (I do grant though that that is an argument for another day)
Once upon a time, the tacho was known as the spy in the cab, now this. What will be the next stage…the underwriter sitting in the passenger seat as you drive?
I always got the impression that “Maritime” was the place for drivers that couldn’t get work any possible place else?
The “9/11 Crowd” I think was more about having that number of points on one’s licence rather than “being ex-SAS” like one hears at the RDC…
I have a distinct dislike of being sent into Tilbury, where one gets to play dodgems with these guys flying out from between dock warehouses like a bat out of hell…
rambo19:
Drivers have brought this upon themselves.
Those who say ‘i’ll leave/cover the lens/break the camera’ will be out of a job.
I’m a bus driver, and we have had them on buses for years.
Maybe that’s one of the reasons that most of us aint bus drivers then eh?
Ballet dancers have wore tights for years, don’t mean I am gonna start.
Agree with the brought on themselves bit, if they all refused, stuck together and told em to shove their cams up their arses what could they really do.
rambo19:
Ask yourself this, how many truck drivers do you see on the phone?
How bus drivers do you see on the phone?
I’m assuming (maybe wrongly) that you are saying more truckers use the phone than bus drivers and this justifies this ■■■■■■■■.
Well I don’t phone when driving and I bet you don’t so why should you and me have to potentially face this level of intrusion for a few irresponsible knob heads.
As far as I see it on here, the only ones that are willing to put up with it, (and worse the ones that are even justifying it ) are the ones that would drive around naked in stilletoes and ■■■■■■ clamps if their bosses told them to.
I’m still totally new to the whole game but if this place told us they where installing driver facing cameras, regardless of how good the job is, I’d be walking right out the door
) are the ones that would drive around naked in stilletoes and ■■■■■■ clamps if their bosses told them to.