Mabey some sense about Calais crisis

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desypete:
are we the only county that will let people in with such large numbers that they can grow to a size that they end up becoming the norm in areas ? like Rochdale or Bradford for example ? there no longer english areas anymore there now Pakistani areas, in most citys there will be black areas and white ones, yet the politcal correct loonys go on and on about promoting racial harmony yet the first thing they do is lump them all together in one area seperate from the natives, then they build them places of worship and anything else that will make them feel like there still back home in there country’s that they have fled from

if they really want to promote racial harmany then move them all out into areas that are mostly populated by white English speaking people, they will have to learn to adapt to our ways if they want to live in harmony with us. but its not like that at all, its a slow take over area by area and unless this trend is stopped and that they make sure if people want to come here they will have to mix in with us and live our way of life, if they want to live there own way of life like it was for them back home then by all means return to there home lands not try to change our lands into there lands

its really hitting home now with people as they can see it with there own eyes now as more and more people are coming over in most factorys there working there now en mass, i lost count of how many places i would of delivered to and no one could speak a word of English.

our nhs is full of bad spoken English drs and nurses, i wonder how many mistakes are made simply because they have to keep on repeating themselves over and over as we dont understand what there saying ?

its a disgrace what is happening in our lands, the first move will be to get out of europe as quick as we can, to have the powers back again to start to tackle the problem, then the next problem will be to shut the political correct bleeding hearts lot up

if they want more people from overseas coming over then let them share there homes with them and feed them out of there own money and leave my money alone and everyone else money alone who doesnt feel like paying for ethnic harmony

take my taxes and spend it on my own kind and my own area help our own people first has to be the way forward, if we get to a place were we are all doing ok then by all means help thoese who are less fortunate
but its our own people who end up having to struggle as we try to be all things to all people

Is a disgrace that common-sense opinion is the very thing that gets branded as “racist” when of course it’s not.
You’re right of course about the NHS problems in particular…
The NHS might very well “never have enough money despite having billions thrown at it” because of things like Lawsuits paid out on Doctor Zog perscribing 250milligrammes rather than the actual 250microgrammes - and giving some poor chump in hospital on a fancy pain killer Brain Damage, and a six-figure payout…
Then there’s the lives not saved from our old folk left on trollies in corridors to die, having not made it to a Doctor" that can understand geriatric English which few people seems to realize is a task in itself…

Just of late, it’s now even considered “racist” to “criticize anything to do with EU laws” or “racist” to want to close our borders just to save lives or “racist” to want to hold a referendum on re-claiming powers just to start to do something about it…

Seen Cameron on TV this morning? - All I heard were a bunch of “too little, too late” and costly ineffective solutions that there’s now not the money to pay for, 'cos Osbourne has just donked away 10 figures by flogging RBS at a loss to the taxpayer to his mates nonetheless… :imp:

By this time next week, the Brit population will not only have had all it’s benefits cut, but the five-figure rabble of tunnel people that have successfully got through in the past week alone - will either be working in the black economy, and paying no taxes OR in work with fake ID, and claiming benefits.

Nope, Can’t say that either. It’s “racist” to object to my taxes being nicked, and it’s “racist” to object to laws being enforced upon me - but not upon people breaking the law right in front of the authorities supposedly there to start taking people away for incarceration or deportation. :angry:

If Osbourne could screw us all without it hurting - we might have let him get away with it. Instead, even buying our own vaseline is hurting, let alone ‘not even being able to apply it’. :frowning:

I despair over the ability of the home-grown Brit to just “take it and take it” when it comes to this kind of “public enemy” politics. Even in the middle ages - lack of education and public ingorance allowed the ruling classes to shaft everyone back then - but we were not so away of it, thus it could not have hurt so much.

Too many people as “Closet Tories” voted for them on May 7th because they actually hate their fellow Britons that much. Well, we shouldn’t feel sorry for them when they, in turn, find themselves getting left on trollies to die, can’t get that job at B&Q, or get laid off with insufficient payout to provide themselves with a replacement pension income.
It isn’t racist for society to become split between the property-owning closet tory voters, and pretty much everyone else - regardless of if they vote Labour or not.
You no longer need to vote Labour to get shafted by the Tories. Class war rather than party politics is now here to stay. :frowning:

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Winseer:
Seen Cameron on TV this morning? - All I heard were a bunch of “too little, too late” and costly ineffective solutions

No surprise the ‘repatriation’ word as posted by the OP still doesn’t seem to be there.Probably because that would be considered as ‘racist’. :unamused: :wink:

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You should get into politics m8. You’d get my vote. So damned true, every word of it.
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Wish I could… On a pro-transport ticket, I’d get the votes of the transport community OK, but seeing as the transport community have been put into the “hated by the public already” box, it’s going to be damned hard to get past the closet tory vote again.

I wonder if we should have a Peasant’s Revolt Part Deux which seems to be where it might go in France itself!

Imagine… Truckers refusing to make deliveries nationwide, and properly using their trucks to picket every factory gate in the country, so the no-speke-English brigade in their puddle jumpers can’t “provide a transport strike-breaking solution either”…

Yup, because action by the actual workforce on protest/strike has already been declared illegal - we’re just gonna have to accept the fact that no change will ever be possible without ditching the current set of laws ruling us. To object to anything the government does to shaft us is pretty much already illegal. We’re all outlaws the moment we object to anything at all.

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Yes the people need to wake up to scamercon and to what is going on, and maybe start to stand up for what they have En-mass Words don’t cut it with politicians they are full of bs

What if these illegals where to be persecuted here ,would they then leave?

As for the food banks , i have no doubt that those illegals will be milking them for what they can get too, We as said have enough of our own problems with poverty ect, we certainly don’t need an influx of more people who don’t have a pot to ■■■■ in

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The bleeder’s are already living in the uk and sucking it dry and having kids who will follow in there footsteps, you sit beside them in the pub or pass them in the shops every day. The people in Calais are looking to come here to work for some kind of life. Do you think people would give up there country and life and go through all the crap they have to go through just to get benefit’s here.

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that’s what should surround both port and ET terminal at calais complete with watch towers and cctv that works in darkness , that and armed security/police patrolling the perimeter fence around the clock , and maybe France should secure its border with Italy

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nightline:
The bleeder’s are already living in the uk and sucking it dry and having kids who will follow in there footsteps, you sit beside them in the pub or pass them in the shops every day. The people in Calais are looking to come here to work for some kind of life. Do you think people would give up there country and life and go through all the crap they have to go through just to get benefit’s here.

Personally i do not care and i’m sure i am not alone about their reasons for coming here , They have transited several SAFE countries some in the EU, So having done this they are not asylum seekers as they cannot claim to be fleeing from anything apart from poverty,

Why should this country be responsible to change that, when we are skint without that plague of human locusts making matters worse for our own poor and impoverished ■■? I have zero sympathy for any of them, most hate us ,hate our culture When terror attacks increase in the near future i wonder if the pro migration nimbies will still be saying all is welcome then
What also boils my ■■■■ is they none of them have had the decency to even ask if they could come here, they just force themselves upon us because we are too soft with them, they rarely will get deported they know how to play the system and what loopholes they can exploit before they even get here. Racism in this country maybe low but i think only a matter of time before that starts to change in a big & ugly way unless some real changes are made

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tommy t:
thats what should surround both port and ET terminal at calais

That’s exactly the way the poorest EU member state is keeping EU safe. :wink: Even though some “human rights activist” tried to cut the fence.
On the other note, UK Government ought to stop benefits to all but its citizens and legal residents. No ID - chance to go under the radar, housing benefits, child benefits, not deporting illegals…as soon as this stops the illegals will stop

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tommy t:
Racism in this country maybe low but i think only a matter of time before that starts to change in a big & ugly way unless some real changes are made

Real racism is more like a psychopathic mental disorder and has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationalist view.IE it isn’t racist to tell the immigrants to go home they aren’t welcome.If that means putting them in handcuffs to deport them that still doesn’t fit the description of a racist. :bulb:

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Dolph:
UK Government ought to stop benefits to all but its citizens and legal residents. No ID - chance to go under the radar, housing benefits, child benefits, not deporting illegals…as soon as this stops the illegals will stop

Why should the deportation/repatriation option be off the menu.As for the definition of ‘citizens’ as it stands that obviously means every ‘citizen’ within the eastward expanded EU.Which is also part of the same problem as any other type of economic mass movement of people from wherever trying to take advantage of a more developed economy than their own.

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Carryfast:

tommy t:
Racism in this country maybe low but i think only a matter of time before that starts to change in a big & ugly way unless some real changes are made

Real racism is more like a psychopathic mental disorder and has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationalist view.IE it isn’t racist to tell the immigrants to go home they aren’t welcome.If that means putting them in handcuffs to deport them that still doesn’t fit the description of a racist. :bulb:

I was meaning the people native to this country sending a clear message to asylum seekers by violence if need be, Because the government aren’t doing anywhere near enough to rid our shores of these parasites and they probably have little or no intention of changing that any time soon, because these issues don’t affect them

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tommy t:

nightline:
The bleeder’s are already living in the uk and sucking it dry and having kids who will follow in there footsteps, you sit beside them in the pub or pass them in the shops every day. The people in Calais are looking to come here to work for some kind of life. Do you think people would give up there country and life and go through all the crap they have to go through just to get benefit’s here.

Personally i do not care and i’m sure i am not alone about their reasons for coming here , They have transited several SAFE countries some in the EU, So having done this they are not asylum seekers as they cannot claim to be fleeing from anything apart from poverty, Why should this country be responsible to change that, when we are skint without that plague of human locusts making matters worse for our own poor and impoverished ■■? I have zero sympathy for any of them, most hate us ,hate our culture When terror attacks increase in the near future i wonder if the pro migration nimbies will still be saying all is welcome then
What also boils my ■■■■ is they none of them have had the decency to even ask if they could come here, they just force themselves upon us because we are too soft with them, they rarely will get deported they know how to play the system and what loopholes they can exploit before they even gey here. Racism in this country maybe low but i think only a matter of time before that starts to change in a big & ugly way unless some real changes are made

How is France letting a lot of people stay around the port when they don’t even have id, any other country you must prove who you are, I suppose if you cant prove where they come from then where can you send them

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Carryfast:

Dolph:
UK Government ought to stop benefits to all but its citizens and legal residents. No ID - chance to go under the radar, housing benefits, child benefits, not deporting illegals…as soon as this stops the illegals will stop

Why should the deportation/repatriation option be off the menu.As for the definition of ‘citizens’ as it stands that obviously means every ‘citizen’ within the eastward expanded EU.Which is also part of the same problem as any other type of economic mass movement of people from wherever trying to take advantage of a more developed economy than their own.

I’m misunderstood, UK doesn’t do enough deportations, it has to start deporting illegals and asylum seekers refused status. Just get the system rolling.

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nightline:

tommy t:

nightline:
The bleeder’s are already living in the uk and sucking it dry and having kids who will follow in there footsteps, you sit beside them in the pub or pass them in the shops every day. The people in Calais are looking to come here to work for some kind of life. Do you think people would give up there country and life and go through all the crap they have to go through just to get benefit’s here.

Personally i do not care and i’m sure i am not alone about their reasons for coming here , They have transited several SAFE countries some in the EU, So having done this they are not asylum seekers as they cannot claim to be fleeing from anything apart from poverty, Why should this country be responsible to change that, when we are skint without that plague of human locusts making matters worse for our own poor and impoverished ■■? I have zero sympathy for any of them, most hate us ,hate our culture When terror attacks increase in the near future i wonder if the pro migration nimbies will still be saying all is welcome then
What also boils my ■■■■ is they none of them have had the decency to even ask if they could come here, they just force themselves upon us because we are too soft with them, they rarely will get deported they know how to play the system and what loopholes they can exploit before they even gey here. Racism in this country maybe low but i think only a matter of time before that starts to change in a big & ugly way unless some real changes are made

How is France letting a lot of people stay around the port when they don’t even have id, any other country you must prove who you are, I suppose if you cant prove where they come from then where can you send them

That no ID is used to exploit one such loophole in the system that was set up by the nimby brigade, No ID no entry to our country is what it should be a bit of tough love is what is needed, Most who are in calais will still have their ID on them, (excluding those who have already been deported )
We need to remove our image as a soft touch , change the end game, no benefits or free healthcare from our NHS, No work unless they have valid ID , So blighty becomes no different than France ,Italy, ect , and as a measure to control their numbers, they have to be processed/screened by ukba ect, before they are allowed entry, should they evade or attempt to evade this processing they will be deported ASAP and barred from entering this country for life, But it would be cheaper and easier to secure our borders properly EVERY lorry that is en route to the uk should be searched prior to entering the uk At the French side by our security staff, any found in the uk should be detained and deported

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Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol

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tommy t:
Real racism is more like a psychopathic mental disorder and has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationalist view.IE it isn’t racist to tell the immigrants to go home they aren’t welcome.If that means putting them in handcuffs to deport them that still doesn’t fit the description of a racist. :bulb:

I was meaning the people native to this country sending a clear message to asylum seekers by violence if need be, Because the government aren’t doing anywhere near enough to rid our shores of these parasites and they probably have little or no intention of changing that any time soon, because these issues don’t affect them
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The problem is that it’s a very thin line between ‘sending a message’ in the form of a vigilante type violent reaction and racist extremism.

As opposed to just calling for them to be repatriated by those ‘supposedly’ with the responsibility of looking after the defence of our borders.Which in this case is obviously the police,UKBA and the armed forces.

With the former idea not only appealing to and attracting the ‘wrong’ types of real racists.But also being counter productive and diluting the call for the latter by providing the Socialist and cheap labour pro immigration establishment with the excuse of being able to tie nationalist sentiment with racism.Which I’d guess is one of the reasons why the French nationalist movement is showing such levels of restraint regarding the issue. :bulb:

IE we really need a ‘government’ along the same lines as the French FN.Which by definition means an anti immigration stance with the credibility of being implemented by official lawful channels not vigilante possibly extremist mobs.If we can break the bs pro immigration propaganda link between nationalism v racism then we’ll be well on the way to getting that type of government that we so badly need.

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Bach home:
Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol

I guess that you can be listed as one of the full on believers in the bleeding heart socialist or cheap labour let em all in pro immigration cause. :unamused:

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Dolph:

Carryfast:

Dolph:
UK Government ought to stop benefits to all but its citizens and legal residents. No ID - chance to go under the radar, housing benefits, child benefits, not deporting illegals…as soon as this stops the illegals will stop

Why should the deportation/repatriation option be off the menu.As for the definition of ‘citizens’ as it stands that obviously means every ‘citizen’ within the eastward expanded EU.Which is also part of the same problem as any other type of economic mass movement of people from wherever trying to take advantage of a more developed economy than their own.

I’m misunderstood, UK doesn’t do enough deportations, it has to start deporting illegals and asylum seekers refused status. Just get the system rolling.

The issue isn’t about ‘those refused’ ‘asylum’.It’s about why are what are obviously economic migrants/illegal immigrants even allowed right to being in the system.

In which case there’s no need to bother about the housing or other ‘asylum support’ type benefits.Just send them all home on a summary immediate basis without right of appeal. :bulb:

As usual the Cons are putting on a big pretence of acting tough.While the reality is nothing has changed from the pro immigration agenda’s,which runs this country,point of view.Even the relatively too soft UKIP vote being described as ‘closet racists’ by Cameron and his supporters in that regard. :unamused:

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Carryfast:

Bach home:
Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol

I guess that you can be listed as one of the full on believers in the bleeding heart socialist or cheap labour let em all in pro immigration cause. :unamused:

lol far from it man, But I guess to you anyone to the left of Himmler is Arthur Scargill.
You got some weird vision of the World going on there, everything is either your version or it’s socialist.

There are many shades between black and white man

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Bach home:

Carryfast:

Bach home:
Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol

I guess that you can be listed as one of the full on believers in the bleeding heart socialist or cheap labour let em all in pro immigration cause. :unamused:

lol far from it man, But I guess to you anyone to the left of Himmler is Arthur Scargill.
You got some weird vision of the World going on there, everything is either your version or it’s socialist.

There are many shades between black and white man

Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’. :unamused:

As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda. :imp: :unamused: