tommy t:
Real racism is more like a psychopathic mental disorder and has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationalist view.IE it isn’t racist to tell the immigrants to go home they aren’t welcome.If that means putting them in handcuffs to deport them that still doesn’t fit the description of a racist.
I was meaning the people native to this country sending a clear message to asylum seekers by violence if need be, Because the government aren’t doing anywhere near enough to rid our shores of these parasites and they probably have little or no intention of changing that any time soon, because these issues don’t affect them
The problem is that it’s a very thin line between ‘sending a message’ in the form of a vigilante type violent reaction and racist extremism.
As opposed to just calling for them to be repatriated by those ‘supposedly’ with the responsibility of looking after the defence of our borders.Which in this case is obviously the police,UKBA and the armed forces.
With the former idea not only appealing to and attracting the ‘wrong’ types of real racists.But also being counter productive and diluting the call for the latter by providing the Socialist and cheap labour pro immigration establishment with the excuse of being able to tie nationalist sentiment with racism.Which I’d guess is one of the reasons why the French nationalist movement is showing such levels of restraint regarding the issue. ,
IE we really need a ‘government’ along the same lines as the French FN.Which by definition means an anti immigration stance with the credibility of being implemented by official lawful channels not vigilante possibly extremist mobs.If we can break the bs pro immigration propaganda link between nationalism v racism then we’ll be well on the way to getting that type of government that we so badly need.
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I would be more worried about being a member of the eu that worried about a few illegals, Its within our own country that’s ■■■■■■■ this job and lots of other jobs and wages around the country, open borders and new members from the pits of Europe will invade this country like never seen before, they will come here and work for a few years and build there stamps up and then go on benefits, a lot of them are beggars and thieves and robbers, I know we have that type here but these people are experts at what they do and have being doing it all there life because of where they come from, we are an easy touch, roll on the Turks, god help us.
Bach home:
Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol
I guess that you can be listed as one of the full on believers in the bleeding heart socialist or cheap labour let em all in pro immigration cause.
lol far from it man, But I guess to you anyone to the left of Himmler is Arthur Scargill.
You got some weird vision of the World going on there, everything is either your version or it’s socialist.
There are many shades between black and white man
Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’.
As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda.
Sorry but having spoken about this whole subject many times with people who know what they’re talking about,
I’m too bored with you to be bothered to really respond.
(Prediction: he will claim this answer as a victory and proof than I’m a commie and or daft…lol )
Carryfast:
IE we really need a ‘government’ along the same lines as the French FN.Which by definition means an anti immigration stance with the credibility of being implemented by official lawful channels not vigilante possibly extremist mobs.If we can break the bs pro immigration propaganda link between nationalism v racism then we’ll be well on the way to getting that type of government that we so badly need.
I would be more worried about being a member of the eu that worried about a few illegals, Its within our own country that’s [zb] this job and lots of other jobs and wages around the country, open borders and new members from the pits of Europe will invade this country like never seen before, they will come here and work for a few years and build there stamps up and then go on benefits, a lot of them are beggars and thieves and robbers, I know we have that type here but these people are experts at what they do and have being doing it all there life because of where they come from, we are an easy touch, roll on the Turks, god help us.
A real nationalist government like the FN is all about leaving the Federalist EU with its ever increasing moves to take in Eastern Europe,as part of the cheap labour and foreign aid in exchange for bs American foreign policy aims agenda.
Bach home:
Thank God some of you lot will never get near political power lol
I guess that you can be listed as one of the full on believers in the bleeding heart socialist or cheap labour let em all in pro immigration cause.
lol far from it man, But I guess to you anyone to the left of Himmler is Arthur Scargill.
You got some weird vision of the World going on there, everything is either your version or it’s socialist.
There are many shades between black and white man
Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’.
As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda.
I thought that the Nazis were Fascists - which is the right wing of politics; Socialists are on the left wing, but not so far as Communists.
Carryfast:
Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’.
As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda.
Sorry but having spoken about this whole subject many times with people who know what they’re talking about,
I’m too bored with you to be bothered to really respond.
(Prediction: he will claim this answer as a victory and proof than I’m a commie and or daft…lol )
Would they be the same people who told you that the French FN are Socialists like the nazis.
In which case you could be a Cameron supporter which takes the idea of daft to a new level.
Carryfast:
Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’.
As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda.
Sorry but having spoken about this whole subject many times with people who know what they’re talking about,
I’m too bored with you to be bothered to really respond.
(Prediction: he will claim this answer as a victory and proof than I’m a commie and or daft…lol )
Would they be the same people who told you that the French FN are Socialists like the nazis.
In which case you could be a Cameron supporter which takes the idea of daft to a new level. [emoji38] [emoji38]
Your listen a lot but you don’t hear mate.
I’m pretty sure you would argue with a person with identical views as yourself.
Because you turn up with a closed mind and don’t hear (digest mentally ) other people’s points, was the same on the Cecil thread I noticed, you were busy taking apart points I had not even made lol
cav551:
I thought that the Nazis were Fascists - which is the right wing of politics; Socialists are on the left wing, but not so far as Communists.
I should know having been a full on Socialist before I knew better.The Nazis were Socialists.Which is what differentiated them from true Nationalists bearing in mind that it is ideologically impossible to be both.As for Socialism and Communism the link is contained in the old title of the USSR.IE to all intents and purposes one and the same thing.Bearing in mind,that unlike Stalin, Hitler didn’t have the intelligence to understand what the zb he was or what he was doing.Just like the majority of Stalin’s Vodka fuelled followers.
Its hard to spot the Englishman now in his own country, all thanks to the former commonwealth all the people here think there are English, in truth we are a multy national country more multy than English, the foreigners are taking over.
Carryfast:
Tell us more about why you think that our open door immigration policy is supposedly good for the working class assuming that is your definition of ‘left’.
As for the the difference between nationalism v racism in whatever form.The nazis were just another bunch of nutters with a typically Socialist social engineering agenda which can vary anywhere between integration and assimilation of all the different ethnic groups to annihilation of any that don’t fit the script.That accounts for all of the shades of grey which make up the Socialist agenda.
Sorry but having spoken about this whole subject many times with people who know what they’re talking about,
I’m too bored with you to be bothered to really respond.
(Prediction: he will claim this answer as a victory and proof than I’m a commie and or daft…lol )
Would they be the same people who told you that the French FN are Socialists like the nazis.
In which case you could be a Cameron supporter which takes the idea of daft to a new level. [emoji38] [emoji38]
Your listen a lot but you don’t hear mate.
I’m pretty sure you would argue with a person with identical views as yourself.
Because you turn up with a closed mind and don’t hear (digest mentally ) other people’s points, was the same on the Cecil thread I noticed, you were busy taking apart points I had not even made lol
Ciao
+1 He does exactly the same on other threads. One of these that is never wrong. Trouble is he usually is as most will tell you.
albion1971:
+1 He does exactly the same on other threads. One of these that is never wrong. Trouble is he usually is as most will tell you.
Instead of whingeing about what I’ve said who would you support on the issue Albion.Le Pen and the FN.Or more of the same let em all in and ask questions after wards in the form of Cameron and Hollande.
del949:
desypete, I lived in Bradford for 59 years, I have no need to drive around counting white faces.
I have many Pakistani friends and former workmates, some of best neighbours I have ever had have been Pakistani.
Carryfast, despite your usual multi-phrase waffle, you don’t actually challenge the facts that Britain is NOT the largest importer of migrants.
so because you have some mates who are pakistani then the rest of us should just shut up and sit back and do nothing ?
what happend to all the other white natives of rochdale and bradford ? you fail to explain how come so many of the pakistani people all flocked to that area and slowly are now the largest race in that area ?
how is that trying to live in harmony with the rest of us ? its just setting aside a part of our country to fill it up and change it to look like its a part of pakistan just to make those who live there feel like there living back home where they have come from
if they came to live here and work here and make a new life then that should mean they adopt our ways and our culture not expect our taxes to change things around to suit themselves.
but the point is i was making about bradford and rochdale is how its now a non English area any more, just drive down and you will feel like your in a different country like something out of bagdad with the dome top buildings etc and not a white face to be seen for miles or there might be the odd one or 2 still knocking about
its wrong with how they congregate together in one area and its wrong that the white folk of those areas had to move out as they would of felt forced out a bit like some others are feeling now with the high numbers of overseas people coming into there areas in such large numbers
if they come over then they must addopt our ways and respect them, not try to change them under the mask of it being multicultural as thatis just bollox
del949:
desypete, I lived in Bradford for 59 years, I have no need to drive around counting white faces.
I have many Pakistani friends and former workmates, some of best neighbours I have ever had have been Pakistani.
Carryfast, despite your usual multi-phrase waffle, you don’t actually challenge the facts that Britain is NOT the largest importer of migrants.
so because you have some mates who are pakistani then the rest of us should just shut up and sit back and do nothing ?
what happend to all the other white natives of rochdale and bradford ? you fail to explain how come so many of the pakistani people all flocked to that area and slowly are now the largest race in that area ?
how is that trying to live in harmony with the rest of us ? its just setting aside a part of our country to fill it up and change it to look like its a part of pakistan just to make those who live there feel like there living back home where they have come from
if they came to live here and work here and make a new life then that should mean they adopt our ways and our culture not expect our taxes to change things around to suit themselves.
but the point is i was making about bradford and rochdale is how its now a non English area any more, just drive down and you will feel like your in a different country like something out of bagdad with the dome top buildings etc and not a white face to be seen for miles or there might be the odd one or 2 still knocking about
its wrong with how they congregate together in one area and its wrong that the white folk of those areas had to move out as they would of felt forced out a bit like some others are feeling now with the high numbers of overseas people coming into there areas in such large numbers
if they come over then they must addopt our ways and respect them, not try to change them under the mask of it being multicultural as thatis just bollox
very well said, if they want schools and other things in there own culture let them ■■■■ off back to were they come from and that means even if they have a English passport, ■■■■ them and there kids if they don’t follow the English way, bring back hilter.
del949:
desypete, I lived in Bradford for 59 years, I have no need to drive around counting white faces.
I have many Pakistani friends and former workmates, some of best neighbours I have ever had have been Pakistani.
Carryfast, despite your usual multi-phrase waffle, you don’t actually challenge the facts that Britain is NOT the largest importer of migrants.
so because you have some mates who are pakistani then the rest of us should just shut up and sit back and do nothing ?
what happend to all the other white natives of rochdale and bradford ? you fail to explain how come so many of the pakistani people all flocked to that area and slowly are now the largest race in that area ?
how is that trying to live in harmony with the rest of us ? its just setting aside a part of our country to fill it up and change it to look like its a part of pakistan just to make those who live there feel like there living back home where they have come from
if they came to live here and work here and make a new life then that should mean they adopt our ways and our culture not expect our taxes to change things around to suit themselves.
but the point is i was making about bradford and rochdale is how its now a non English area any more, just drive down and you will feel like your in a different country like something out of bagdad with the dome top buildings etc and not a white face to be seen for miles or there might be the odd one or 2 still knocking about
its wrong with how they congregate together in one area and its wrong that the white folk of those areas had to move out as they would of felt forced out a bit like some others are feeling now with the high numbers of overseas people coming into there areas in such large numbers
if they come over then they must addopt our ways and respect them, not try to change them under the mask of it being multicultural as thatis just bollox
very well said, if they want schools and other things in there own culture let them [zb] off back to were they come from and that means even if they have a English passport, [zb] them and there kids if they don’t follow the English way, bring back hilter.
desypete:
if they came to live here and work here and make a new life then that should mean they adopt our ways and our culture not expect our taxes to change things around to suit themselves.
desypete:
its wrong with how they congregate together in one area and its wrong that the white folk of those areas had to move out as they would of felt forced out a bit like some others are feeling now with the high numbers of overseas people coming into there areas in such large numbers
desypete:
if they come over then they must addopt our ways and respect them, not try to change them under the mask of it being multicultural
+1,well said
But unfortunately the country is so far under the control of the lefties who chuck the word “racist” at anyone who doesnt open their arms and say “yes,come on in” that it is unlikely ever to change. It SHOULD be perfectly acceptable to say these things (provided there are no actual racist words or phrases used),to put your point across and request that our tax money does not get used to fund the lives of anyone who only arrived here five minutes ago with their hand out and only goes to those in ACTUAL need who are fleeing ACTUAL persecution. But the left wing and PC brigade have such a strong hold over the country you get shot down as a racist,skin head thug unless you nod in agreement.
More and more areas are being taken over and English is almost a second language in some areas. A driver for First bus was assaulted in the govanhill area of Glasgow a few years ago by a gang of around 6 coloured youths who told him to stay out of “their” area.He reported it to the police but nothing more was heard. If this had been 6 whites attacking a foreigner w’ed never hear the end of it.
To many people come to here for a “better life” yet want to change everything to suit the way they want it and scream “racist” if they get told no.
I have no problem with people emigrating to Britain but only if they can bring something to the table,not take,take,take. Im sorry they come from a country that has poverty or whatever but its not my problem. The guy at the end of my street had his house burn down a few monthes ago. He didnt have insurance and he and his family are now homeless. The guy across the road lost his job in February and is struggling financially. I feel sorry for them both but its not my problem and I dont feel its my duty to take them in and feed and cloth them and support them financially.
nightline:
very well said, if they want schools and other things in there own culture let them [zb] off back to were they come from and that means even if they have a English passport, [zb] them and there kids if they don’t follow the English way, bring back hilter.
Its people like you who are a big part of the problem. Because of the kind of stuff you come out with(like the guff you just posted here),those of us who ARENT racist but want to curb immigration and halt the flood of people coming here with no intention of paying in but taking plenty out get lumped in with you and your like and all painted as racists.
There are plenty of us who welcome immigrants for the right reasons and only want something done to halt the “takers” but when you get idiotic statements like yours used as the stick to justify ignoring us you dont help the case,you only make it worse
Anyone been near any of the British immigrant ghettos in Spain it’s all day breakfast sky sport and john smiths everywhere and some boring ■■■■ reading the daily mail moaning about immigrants.
Great job of untergrating us Brits do.
There’s a problem with immigration in the UK but tge attitude of many on it makes anyone who wants to change things be labeled with all the cranks and loons.
kr79:
Anyone been near any of the British immigrant ghettos in Spain it’s all day breakfast sky sport and john smiths everywhere and some boring [zb] reading the daily mail moaning about immigrants.
Great job of untergrating us Brits do.
There’s a problem with immigration in the UK but tge attitude of many on it makes anyone who wants to change things be labeled with all the cranks and loons.
Yes but the British migrants in Spain have money and open businesses , the scum that come here do so illegally and don’t have a pot to ■■■■ in ,so come with the intention of sponging from the state there’s a big difference
Cameron ought to get on the phone to Libya.
We helped get rid of Gaddafi and are spending Millions helping them get back on their feet.
We propose with other European countries that we open a transit camp in the desert.
Staffed by European Police / Immigration / Army.
Anyone arriving in the Med by rickety boat or in Italy will be taken their and checked out.
Anyone arriving in France, Germany, UK will be shipped straight there.
Once there they will be cared for with Food drink medics etc.
Their identity and nationality will be established.
Their reason for trying to get to Europe will be established.
If they are genuine then each country takes a portion of legal immigrants.
The rest are sent back home.
Simply I want to move home won’t cut it.
There was a very good piece on Sky News with a bloke from a civil liberty group yesterday.
His point was we are seen as a soft touch not because of hand-outs but we don’t deport many people.
He was saying in Europe no I.D. card you can’t get anything.
No work, no hand-outs nothing, nil, nada.
They are slung in old army camps with wire round them and their movements restricted.
If they can’t establish who they are and what they are doing etc it’s straight back home for them.
Here you arrive here the police bail you to the immigration services.
They put you in a hotel / hostel / accommodation and you can do what you want.
You find a job for a fiver an hour and as the bloke knows what he’s dealing with he sticks you in a caravan / flat with a couple of others.
You dissapear from the accomodation and no one knows where you are or where you have gone.
If caught you simply start the process all over again this time claiming you know have a familly or a cat or your studying and it’s your human right to stay here.
That’s one of the real reasons they don’t want to stay in France or Italy or Greece it’s because they are in those countries illegally also.
People will tell you that Germany France and Holland have taken more in than us.
That’s beacuse they have them under lock and key and know exactly how many they have all logged and accounted for.
The media will tell you that 148 made it the other night.
That’s only the ones that the police got.
Not the ones who slashed a curtain and ran off at the services or on the A12.
If you rounded everyone up whose here illegally we’d have just as much as everywhere else which isn’t bad for a “secure” island.
I assume that all those students,lawyers, doctors and al the others in Calais will throw away the crowbars and knifes when they get here?
No I didn’t think so.
I’m also tempted to wonder how many ISIS fighters have sneaked through into Europe just waiting to go off on one.
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