truckerbob:
i bet adolf wouldnt have had this problem.
he was an alright kiddy actually 
, as was Enoch Powell really! 
just need to eradicate cyclists now with go pros on their heads 
muckles:
Carryfast:
Firstly why should it be any surprise,to anyone except a Socialist or anyone who has been brainwashed by all the Socialist/pro immigration bs,that each ethnic/national group and culture prefers in general to keep to its own.Just as nature intended.Well might surprise some people, doesnât surprise myself or Bach Home, we just commented on the fact that immirgrants will quite often head for their own communities, whether that is in Manchester or Marseille.
Carryfast:
The only âproblemâ in this case being the ongoing refusal of the Socialist and cheap labour pro immigration agenda to admit that is is wrong and it is time to halt and reverse the historic and ongoing mistake of large scale immigration of foreign alien cultures into Europe.On that note Iâm still waiting for confirmation of the OPâs obvious wishful thinking regarding the French and UK governments,supposedly having the slightest intentions,regarding the repatriation word.At what point have I ever said I agree with an open and unrestricted immirgration policy?
It was announced, but whether it will happen is another question.
Calais crisis: New deal to send migrants home to AfricaCarryfast:
As for the immigrants in question choosing to come here instead of France that seems obvious bearing in mind that none of them are trying to hide on trucks leaving England bound for France.Only vice versa.Nor do they have the slightest intentions or wish to stay in France.Iâll await your educated reasoning as to that simple fact.Maybe because of geography, most of them are coming from North Africa or the Middle East, so have to come through france to get here but they donât have to travel through the UK to get asylum in France.
âIfâ itâs supposedly all about âasylumâ they donât âneedâ to leave North Africa or the Middle East at all let alone go to all the aggravation of getting here.
As for the Cons ( or Hollande ) talking about the repatriation word so far there seems to be no actual confirmation of that within the mainstream news.While âifâ the government is planning on such a move then it should obviously include all of those whoâve actually got here already.
The fact is thereâs no way that Cameron or Hollande have the slightest intention of planning let alone implementing such a policy.As we saw when the grovelling Con â â â â â â branded UKIP supporters âcloset racistsâ let alone him now planning to introduce what is FN policy. 
Iâm sick of the pro migration bias news reporting of the BBC , and if the charity with the big gob wants them here perhaps they better feed home and clothe the parasites or STFU, As we as in the majority of the population of the uk do not want them here regardless of why they want to come here , now which part of that do the politicians and media not understand ?
tommy t:
Iâm sick of the pro migration bias news reporting of the BBC
The more PC friendly words âmigrants/migrationâ instead of âillegal immigrants/immigrationâ being part of that.They are only âmigrantsâ up to the point when they crossed their own borders.At the point of trying to enter ours or anyone elseâs they are immigrants.
Carryfast:
As for the question of âthisâ problem no the immigrants obviously arenât trying to get into Germany or France or anywhere else in Europe.They specifically want to get here.
Yep there all coming here, because theyâve heard tales of a wise old man, and wish to benefit from his wisdom. I feel theyâll be sorely disappointed when they find the truth, but Iâm sure it wonât be the only one when they get when they get here.
Carryfast:
In this case it seems obvious that as the OP has ( rightly ),but unfortunately,probably erroneously and only wishfully pointed out, we need to be seeing a joint UK and French policy of summary and immediate repatriation being applied.No surprise we donât seem to be seeing any confirmation of any such change in policy.Which leaves the obvious question as to wether you would agree with such a change in immigration policy and if not why not.
Well Iâll leave you to guess that one, if you actually read what I write instead of jumping to conclusions based on your own prejudice, you might guess correctly.
But I doubt that will happen.
**For Freight drivers approaching the UK terminal**l
We would like to inform you that our service is currently disrupted due to an incident on the terminal which is in the process of being resolved. There is a waiting time of approximately 60 minutes before check-in. The journey from check-in to arrival in the France will take approximately 4 hours.
There are 2 departures per hour.
We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience this will cause to your journey.
Please note that Operation stack is in place on the M20.
For Freight drivers approaching the French terminal
We are currently operating a normal service with up to 2 departures per hour. We wish you a pleasant crossing with Eurotunnel Le Shuttle.
The above from the euro tunnel web site LeShuttle Freight - Travel Updates & News Do they just make it up as they go along 2 departures an hour , a normal service, when thereâs miles of queuing lorries ? or is it because they are giving tourists priority ?
And then you can bet there will be spaces unfilled on the trains as there always are , i have yet to see a full train euro tunnel is a joke, as someone suggested let as many of those parasites in it, then block/seal both sides and then flood it
tommy t:
**For Freight drivers approaching the UK terminal**l
We would like to inform you that our service is currently disrupted due to an incident on the terminal which is in the process of being resolved. There is a waiting time of approximately 60 minutes before check-in. The journey from check-in to arrival in the France will take approximately 4 hours.
There are 2 departures per hour.
We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience this will cause to your journey.
Please note that Operation stack is in place on the M20.For Freight drivers approaching the French terminal
We are currently operating a normal service with up to 2 departures per hour. We wish you a pleasant crossing with Eurotunnel Le Shuttle.The above from the euro tunnel web site LeShuttle Freight - Travel Updates & News Do they just make it up as they go along 2 departures an hour , a normal service, when thereâs miles of queuing lorries ? or is it because they are giving tourists priority ?
And then you can bet there will be spaces unfilled on the trains as there always are , i have yet to see a full train euro tunnel is a joke, as someone suggested let as many of those parasites in it, then block/seal both sides and then flood it
That info service is pants, it only gives you an inaccurate reading of whatâs happening inside the terminal which is bloody pointless if you donât know whatâs happening OUTSIDE the terminal
I joined the stack at 0100 gmt it is now 0400 gmt the train Q from junction 8 to 9 has not moved and the boat queue Iâm in has moved once (maybe it moves every time a boat leaves dover)
Fed up with all this now, boss gave me a new contract for another year last Monday but Iâm in no rush to sign, gonna have a look for something else I think.
^^^^^
How far have you got when you read this? Yesterday Radio Kent was reporting that it was taking 18 hrs from one end of Stack to the other. The previous day the report was 6 hrs at the tunnel after getting through the road queue.
cav551:
^^^^^How far have you got when you read this? Yesterday Radio Kent was reporting that it was taking 18 hrs from one end of Stack to the other. The previous day the report was 6 hrs at the tunnel after getting through the road queue.
Well I arrived in Calais 1 hour ago but the strikers have put barricades on the A16 apparently so not moved since I drove off Ship. What a load of hank.
are we the only county that will let people in with such large numbers that they can grow to a size that they end up becoming the norm in areas ? like Rochdale or Bradford for example ? there no longer english areas anymore there now Pakistani areas, in most citys there will be black areas and white ones, yet the politcal correct loonys go on and on about promoting racial harmony yet the first thing they do is lump them all together in one area seperate from the natives, then they build them places of worship and anything else that will make them feel like there still back home in there countryâs that they have fled from
if they really want to promote racial harmany then move them all out into areas that are mostly populated by white English speaking people, they will have to learn to adapt to our ways if they want to live in harmony with us. but its not like that at all, its a slow take over area by area and unless this trend is stopped and that they make sure if people want to come here they will have to mix in with us and live our way of life, if they want to live there own way of life like it was for them back home then by all means return to there home lands not try to change our lands into there lands
its really hitting home now with people as they can see it with there own eyes now as more and more people are coming over in most factorys there working there now en mass, i lost count of how many places i would of delivered to and no one could speak a word of English.
our nhs is full of bad spoken English drs and nurses, i wonder how many mistakes are made simply because they have to keep on repeating themselves over and over as we dont understand what there saying ?
its a disgrace what is happening in our lands, the first move will be to get out of europe as quick as we can, to have the powers back again to start to tackle the problem, then the next problem will be to shut the political correct bleeding hearts lot up
if they want more people from overseas coming over then let them share there homes with them and feed them out of there own money and leave my money alone and everyone else money alone who doesnt feel like paying for ethnic harmony
take my taxes and spend it on my own kind and my own area help our own people first has to be the way forward, if we get to a place were we are all doing ok then by all means help thoese who are less fortunate
but its our own people who end up having to struggle as we try to be all things to all people
Of all the 27 European Union states, Germany has the highest percentage of immigrants in its population. Just under 10 million people living in Germany today were born outside of Germany â thatâs about 12% of the German population. Most immigrants come from other European countries, particularly from Turkey, Russia, Poland and Italy. Germany is the second most popular destination for immigrants in the world after the United States.
This seems to contradict carryfasts claim that GB has had more immigration since WW2 than any other european country.
desypete, claims that the norm in Bradford is Pakistani. simply not true.
There areas where Pakistanis are dominant but the city as a whole is not Pakistani. Much the same as any other industrial city in the North of England
We as a country do not build them places of worship (Mosques etc) They build themselves.
Integration is a two way street. If Pakistanis move into an otherwise âwhiteâ area then many white residents leave, i.e. âwhite flightâ.
Re NHS and immigrants. FACT without the Indians, Pakistanis, Phillipinos etc.etc. there would be no NHS.
During a recent series of hospital visits for and after an operation, NOT ONE of the medical staff I saw was Briitish white.
There is a really large amount of Daiy mail right wing propaganda being stated as fact, most of it is simply rabble rousing rubbish, pandering to racist right wingers.
Desypete I think the multiracial experiment has failed but we have to follow America. We were told that everyone would harmonise and live together in a coffee coloured Britain. The opposite has happened as each group has carved their piece of Britain out. Poles together, Asians together, Africans and so on apart from the British people who have strict laws saying they must integrate and make the newcomers welcome. In my view this was all a ruse to get cheap labour into the country after the disastrous union strikes of the 1970âs where labour was in short supply for the rich and they were blackmailed by unions into paying a decent wage. The solution of the establishment was to flood Britain with very cheap labour selling the indigenous population down the river. The âwe are all equalâ and it is wrong to âdiscriminate against people for their skin colourâ was merely a psychological weapon to achieve the establishments economic desires. The skin colour argument is becoming history as white people from eastern Europe flock here the rich cannot use the colour reference anymore so now it is evil to discriminate against anyone at all thus giving the rich the freedom to import any cheap labour from anywhere in the world.
Conclusion: We the working class are screwed
desypete:
are we the only county that will let people in with such large numbers that they can grow to a size that they end up becoming the norm in areas ? like Rochdale or Bradford for example ? there no longer english areas anymore there now Pakistani areas, in most citys there will be black areas and white ones, yet the politcal correct loonys go on and on about promoting racial harmony yet the first thing they do is lump them all together in one area seperate from the natives, then they build them places of worship and anything else that will make them feel like there still back home in there countryâs that they have fled fromif they really want to promote racial harmany then move them all out into areas that are mostly populated by white English speaking people, they will have to learn to adapt to our ways if they want to live in harmony with us. but its not like that at all, its a slow take over area by area and unless this trend is stopped and that they make sure if people want to come here they will have to mix in with us and live our way of life, if they want to live there own way of life like it was for them back home then by all means return to there home lands not try to change our lands into there lands
its really hitting home now with people as they can see it with there own eyes now as more and more people are coming over in most factorys there working there now en mass, i lost count of how many places i would of delivered to and no one could speak a word of English.
our nhs is full of bad spoken English drs and nurses, i wonder how many mistakes are made simply because they have to keep on repeating themselves over and over as we dont understand what there saying ?
its a disgrace what is happening in our lands, the first move will be to get out of europe as quick as we can, to have the powers back again to start to tackle the problem, then the next problem will be to shut the political correct bleeding hearts lot up
if they want more people from overseas coming over then let them share there homes with them and feed them out of there own money and leave my money alone and everyone else money alone who doesnt feel like paying for ethnic harmony
take my taxes and spend it on my own kind and my own area help our own people first has to be the way forward, if we get to a place were we are all doing ok then by all means help thoese who are less fortunate
but its our own people who end up having to struggle as we try to be all things to all people
The idea of âintegrationâ is just an idealistic bs red herring.Human nature is ( rightly ) what it is.Which is why we have nation states and borders.While your idea seems to miss the point that those areas of high immigrant population density mainly got that way because the indigenous population moved out as the immigrant ones moved in.The issue in this case being all about numbers reaching a point where we not only have the tolerable situation of limited clusters of immigrant community populated streets and small localities.But we have large areas heading for the usual situation of self determination and local majority democratic control.Until we finally reach the tipping point where the immigrant vote outweighs that of the indigenous one either locally or possibly even nationally.
The idea of thinking that you can integrate your way out of those issues is just erroneous appeasement of the Socialist and cheap labour open door immigration agenda that has caused and continues to cause the problem.While from the point of view of the immigrant populations we are seen as just an extension of their own countries and cultures âbutâ with the benefit of our more advanced economy than their own.That economy having been built on the efforts and sacrifices of the indigenous population.
IE in general itâs just our money in the form of our more developed economy that they want which theyâll continue to keep on trying to get one way or another.But understandably not our culture or national identity.The question just being an issue of at what point do we stop the former.While also understanding the latter bearing in mind that there is no way that you can possibly integrate totally alien cultures without âbothâ the immigrant âandâ indigenous ones all having to compromise on their respective differences and identities.
del949:
Of all the 27 European Union states, Germany has the highest percentage of immigrants in its population. Just under 10 million people living in Germany today were born outside of Germany â thatâs about 12% of the German population. Most immigrants come from other European countries, particularly from Turkey, Russia, Poland and Italy. Germany is the second most popular destination for immigrants in the world after the United States.
This seems to contradict carryfasts claim that GB has had more immigration since WW2 than any other european country.
desypete, claims that the norm in Bradford is Pakistani. simply not true.
There areas where Pakistanis are dominant but the city as a whole is not Pakistani. Much the same as any other industrial city in the North of England
We as a country do not build them places of worship (Mosques etc) They build themselves.
Integration is a two way street. If Pakistanis move into an otherwise âwhiteâ area then many white residents leave, i.e. âwhite flightâ.
Re NHS and immigrants. FACT without the Indians, Pakistanis, Phillipinos etc.etc. there would be no NHS.
During a recent series of hospital visits for and after an operation, NOT ONE of the medical staff I saw was Briitish white.There is a really large amount of Daiy mail right wing propaganda being stated as fact, most of it is simply rabble rousing rubbish, pandering to racist right wingers.
All of which obviously being based the pro immigration world must live as one Socialist bs viewpoint together with the rigged figures which it uses to justify its ideology.
As for ze Germans you do realise that many Germans still ( rightly ) recognise a definition of nationality based on ethnicity/jus sanguinis not the convenient bs Socialist one of jus Soli.Which makes the idea of it being all about who is and isnât German based on who and who isnât born there a moot point.IE I and many Germans would recognise myself as being more âGermanâ,of Anglo Saxon ethnicity,than a German geographic born Turk.That âdoesnâtâ mean that I or them follow the opposite Socialist end of the spectrum which Hitler tried to implement.Hopefully your obsolete Socialist view of the situation will soon be consigned to history where it belongs.When the choice becomes clear in between the likes of zb Corbyn or someone like Farage or prefereably Le Pen.
del949:
Of all the 27 European Union states, Germany has the highest percentage of immigrants in its population. Just under 10 million people living in Germany today were born outside of Germany â thatâs about 12% of the German population. Most immigrants come from other European countries, particularly from Turkey, Russia, Poland and Italy. Germany is the second most popular destination for immigrants in the world after the United States.
This seems to contradict carryfasts claim that GB has had more immigration since WW2 than any other european country.
desypete, claims that the norm in Bradford is Pakistani. simply not true.
There areas where Pakistanis are dominant but the city as a whole is not Pakistani. Much the same as any other industrial city in the North of England
We as a country do not build them places of worship (Mosques etc) They build themselves.
Integration is a two way street. If Pakistanis move into an otherwise âwhiteâ area then many white residents leave, i.e. âwhite flightâ.
Re NHS and immigrants. FACT without the Indians, Pakistanis, Phillipinos etc.etc. there would be no NHS.
During a recent series of hospital visits for and after an operation, NOT ONE of the medical staff I saw was Briitish white.There is a really large amount of Daiy mail right wing propaganda being stated as fact, most of it is simply rabble rousing rubbish, pandering to racist right wingers.
total bollox to your fancy dressing up of what i can see with my own eyes, i dont have to read about anything i see it
how can you seriously claim Rochdale or Bradford are not area of Pakistani ? have a drive around there and see how many white faces you will see
our council in our area has been forced to ear mark tax money to build a mosque for our friends who dont live our way of life at all let alone mix with us
it course uproar with some locals one guy even nailed a pigs head to a door that was going to be the new building for there mosque, did the council listen to the locals protests ? no they didnt all they did was spend even more tax money trying to police the area just incase things got even more ugly as people were taking the law into there own hands
its not what i have read its what is happening all over the country
the problem is people who dont have to live or face these things live in cloud cuckoo land, if they want all this harmony then the least people like you could do is show us by your own example rather than words and start letting the people come and live in your home, share your wages with them and let them do as they wish in your own home
let them have a place of worship in your living room let them throw out your tv and convert your home as i am sure you would be happy to be such a good citizen
as for the nhs whos fault is it that we now have so many non English speakers in the nhs ? what has happend to our own people ?
the fact is our own people were over worked and under paid, the same that is happening now in driving and the only people left driving trucks will be people who dont speak english
should we feel grateful for them ? or thankful they will do the job for less money ?
your version of things, is the type of political correct rubbish that gets peddled about trying to hide what the real problem is
desypete:
as for the nhs whos fault is it that we now have so many non English speakers in the nhs ? what has happend to our own people ?the fact is our own people were over worked and under paid, the same that is happening now in driving and the only people left driving trucks will be people who dont speak english
should we feel grateful for them ? or thankful they will do the job for less money ?
your version of things, is the type of political correct rubbish that gets peddled about trying to hide what the real problem is
^ This.
Ironically the indigenous NHS workforce usually prefers to vote with their feet by taking their skills to places like Australia.Where even more ironically theyâll find an economy that is going down the tubes because of it being thrown open to the globalist free market and cheap labour immigration policy,just like ours.
desypete, I lived in Bradford for 59 years, I have no need to drive around counting white faces.
I have many Pakistani friends and former workmates, some of best neighbours I have ever had have been Pakistani.
Carryfast, despite your usual multi-phrase waffle, you donât actually challenge the facts that Britain is NOT the largest importer of migrants.
Germany and France have both accepted more migrants than the UK in recent years.
I donât totaly buy in to they come for benefits idea as an asulylm seeker despite what the papers tell you will get housed and receive 35 quid a week however many will work in the black economy as will many migrants who arrive illegaly and just not claim asylum.
We need harsher punishments for employers and land Lords housing and employing them for a start.
Itâs a huge problem for the whole of Europe and needs sorting but god knows what the answer is.
When we are demonising the poorest in our country and people need to use food banks and benefits to top up wages we have bigger problems here we need sorting first
del949:
desypete,Carryfast, despite your usual multi-phrase waffle, you donât actually challenge the facts that Britain is NOT the largest importer of migrants.
Letâs just say that in all my travels Iâve never yet found the German,French,Swiss,Italian,or Yugoslav versions of the âcombinedâ immigrant populations and densities of Middlesex/London,West Midlands and West Yorkshire for just 3 examples.Bearing in mind as I said a definition of nationality based on indigenous/jus sanguinis not jus Soli and the results of what happened when Tito tried to do something similar in the former Yugoslavia by integrating the Asian immigrant community with the slavic one.But no surprise that the socialists would never let inconvenient facts stand in the way of their pro immigration agenda.
kr79:
Germany and France have both accepted more migrants than the UK in recent years.
My point is since the end of WW2 and the resulting additions and load on our population as a result of all their descendents and further immigration of family members.Bearing in mind that I donât recognise a definition of nationality based on jus Soli.The clue is that Germany and France didnât have anything close to the size and population of the âBritish Empireâ nor the blanket automatic immigration rights given to that population in an obvious cheap labour importation scam.