Took them a bit long to arrest the minibus driver when you consider how quick they were to arrest the truck driver.
Turbovision:
Took them a bit long to arrest the minibus driver when you consider how quick they were to arrest the truck driver.
Something to do with the fact the minibus driver was seriously injured
What a sad incident. The artic driver must feel awful, he probably did his best to avoid but couldn’t. Whilst the minibus driver will always have the outcome on his conscience … and given the charge of ‘causing death by dangerous driving,’ under the new sentencing guide lines could well see prison.
Driveroneuk:
What a sad incident. The artic driver must feel awful, he probably did his best to avoid but couldn’t. Whilst the minibus driver will always have the outcome on his conscience … and given the charge of ‘causing death by dangerous driving,’ under the new sentencing guide lines could well see prison.
Depending on the outcome of the inquiries and ‘if’ it’s eventually found to have been caused by a lane change from the exit lane for the slip road I think most of the idiots who are designing Britain’s road layouts and signing should be thrown inside with him. 
Carryfast:
Driveroneuk:
What a sad incident. The artic driver must feel awful, he probably did his best to avoid but couldn’t. Whilst the minibus driver will always have the outcome on his conscience … and given the charge of ‘causing death by dangerous driving,’ under the new sentencing guide lines could well see prison.Depending on the outcome of the inquiries and ‘if’ it’s eventually found to have been caused by a lane change from the exit lane for the slip road I think most of the idiots who are designing Britain’s road layouts and signing should be thrown inside with him.
+1 along with the idiots who designed the M1/A14/M6 junction 
albion1971:
Why are people inventing convoluted scenarios in order to defend the trucker at all costs? He was probably driving too close/on his phone/too tired/whatever but it’s pretty clear he’s to blame. +1glad someone else has a normal brain.
Obviously the law didn’t agree.
albion1971:
Also before about 1990 I think, you could drive a full size coach on a car license as long as you were not carrying fare paying passengers!
Yes I beleave your right, in about 86-87 I was driving a 7.5tner, before I got my HGV. We had a family frIend who ran a small Coach company, and he offered me a job doing mainly school runs and scheduled services, when I said I didnt have a PSV he said it wasnt needed for what he was offering, had to be 18 and hold a full car license. I wasnt intrested as I was treading water til got my HGV, which was soon after 
Carryfast:
albion1971:
Why are people inventing convoluted scenarios in order to defend the trucker at all costs? He was probably driving too close/on his phone/too tired/whatever but it’s pretty clear he’s to blame. +1glad someone else has a normal brain.
Obviously the law didn’t agree.
Loving the comedy value of the inventing convoluted scenarios, then follows it up with some err…!!!
Carryfast:
albion1971:
Why are people inventing convoluted scenarios in order to defend the trucker at all costs? He was probably driving too close/on his phone/too tired/whatever but it’s pretty clear he’s to blame. +1glad someone else has a normal brain.
Obviously the law didn’t agree.
Carryfast please do not say I wrote a statement when it was someone else.Check more carefully next time.
albion1971:
Carryfast:
albion1971:
Why are people inventing convoluted scenarios in order to defend the trucker at all costs? He was probably driving too close/on his phone/too tired/whatever but it’s pretty clear he’s to blame. +1glad someone else has a normal brain.
Obviously the law didn’t agree.
Carryfast please do not say I wrote a statement when it was someone else.Check more carefully next time.
So what was the +1 and ‘glad someone else has a normal brain’ all about considering ‘that’ part of the post ‘seems’ to be yours 
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As I said I did not write that statement.Yes i put +1 etc but only because there are so many drivers do what the statement was saying and can lead to these horrendous accidents.
I have never blamed anyone directly for this accident and as I said before I really hope it was mechanical failure and not human error because it must be a horrible thing to have something like that on your conscience for the rest of your life.
albion1971:
As I said I did not write that statement.Yes i put +1 etc but only because there are so many drivers do what the statement was saying and can lead to these horrendous accidents.
I have never blamed anyone directly for this accident and as I said before I really hope it was mechanical failure and not human error because it must be a horrible thing to have something like that on your conscience for the rest of your life.
In this case,as I’ve said,assuming the cause was driver related,the most important thing is that whichever driver is to blame for the accident admits to the mistake and faces the consequences rather than putting the victims through a long drawn out investigation or even worse allowing the possibility that an innocent driver gets put in the frame for causing the accident.
Which is the type of situation which could affect any innocent driver asuming that drivers aren’t prepared to accept responsibility for their actions and try to put the blame on others to get themselves off the hook.
Mini bus wouldn’t have even added any time at all to the journey coming off at 32 for the 639 and going back up the other side back on to the 62. Such a shame.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-22936583
Bethany Jones would have been 19 today. Her funeral is to be held on Thursday.
Stan
How is the bride getting on?
Was the driver charged or anything or has the case not gone to court yet?
Still think about the crash, desperately sad time for the families to have to go through then and now to relive it all, I can’t image it. 
It will be a while before it comes to court.
All the women have left hospital. Beth’s older sister Amy was the last to leave.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23409674
Minibus was run by a cowboy and should not even have been on the road at the time.
Still, I expect he was cheap.
When I reported on the bus and coach industry I used to occasionally field calls from the public expressing disquiet about the state of (usually private hire) coaches or minibuses that they or their children had travelled on.
I used to ask them what the criteria had been for choosing that particular operator: had they been recommended them by another customer, had a good experience in the past or been impressed by the presentation of their vehicles on the road, for instance?
“They were cheapest,” was the inevitable reply.
“Well, that’s it then,” I used to say.
GasGas:
Minibus was run by a cowboy and should not even have been on the road at the time.
I think one of us is reading the story wrong.
The minibus involved in the M62 accident was being driven by a cowboy, but the way I’m reading the story is that VOSA have withdrawn the operators licence as a result of an enquiry that was started as the result of an incident when a wheel fell of one of his vehicles before the M62 accident.
The minibus he was driving at the time of the accident was not his and was not run on his operators licence, I can’t see anything definite to say that the minibus involved in the M62 accident was not roadworthy.
I could be reading it wrong though
So the media can make headlines out of a non story again, they must be bored waiting for the birth of someone Royal.
Mr Rooney pointed out that at the time of the M62 collision, Mr Johnson was not driving a vehicle of his own or one operated under his own operator’s licence.