Dieseldoforme:
albion1971:
Dieseldoforme:
I’ve always wanted an INCREASE in speed within motorway roadworks.
It should be 56 mph.
Are you trying to say if it was increased to 56 they would all suddenly
keep a safe distance? In your dreams only!
These morons have no concept of the danger they put themselves and others in.
I’m not trying to say anything about a safe distance.
I am saying that 56 would reduce some congestion prior to roadworks and
more trucks would be able to maintain their course and speed.
Can’t see it myself.Same amount of traffic,50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
albion1971:
Can’t see it myself.
Same amount of traffic.
50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
56 gets an extra 6 miles of traffic through each lane every hour.
Dieseldoforme:
albion1971:
Can’t see it myself.
Same amount of traffic.
50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
56 gets an extra 6 miles of traffic through each lane every hour.
Yes that is true however I think the reason they set the speed at roadworks to 50 is for the safety of those working on the roads.Surely that is more important than a little less congestion.
albion1971:
Yes that is true however I think the reason they set the speed at roadworks to 50 is for the safety of those working on the roads.
Surely that is more important than a little less congestion.
6 mph makes little difference to their safety.
I don’t mind it when those Johnny Foreigner types overtake me on the motorway . . .
. . . they always seem to be watching interesting DVD’s.
Hiya …i’ve just looked at the posting of whos at fault here and that other site.
it appears the camera’s are filming all the time, that’ll help the team to see what happened.
John
3300John:
Hiya …i’ve just looked at the posting of whos at fault here and that other site.
it appears the camera’s are filming all the time, that’ll help the team to see what happened.
John
If that’s right then maybe the film,up to the point of impact,not after,should be released after the case has been concluded in the interests of driver education. 
albion1971:
Dieseldoforme:
albion1971:
Can’t see it myself.
Same amount of traffic.
50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
56 gets an extra 6 miles of traffic through each lane every hour.
Yes that is true however I think the reason they set the speed at roadworks to 50 is for the safety of those working on the roads.Surely that is more important than a little less congestion.
has anyone actually ever seen anyone working on this section of M62, cos I regularly cross it at diff times of day and night but never see any work being undertaken, yes they are obviously doing the work but it appears only at night at weekends when they close the road completely
but the restrictions and bollards are there 24/7/365
that’s why its gonna take 3 frigging years to complete. could have built a new mway from east coast to west in that time. its only a frigging 16 mile section which they are upgrading 
green456:
Has anyone actually ever seen anyone working on this section of M62, cos I regularly cross it at diff times of day and night but never see any work being undertaken, yes they are obviously doing the work but it appears only at night at weekends when they close the road completely but the restrictions and bollards are there 24/7/365 that’s why its gonna take 3 frigging years to complete. could have built a new mway from east coast to west in that time. its only a frigging 16 mile section which they are upgrading
Watch this film about it.
Dieseldoforme:
albion1971:
Can’t see it myself.
Same amount of traffic.
50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
56 gets an extra 6 miles of traffic through each lane every hour.
I take your point and I agree but I think they have to take into account those who ignore the speed limit.You know what happens.Probably the reason why they keep the limit to 40 on A roads because most trucks do 50 already.
albion1971:
I am not saying I can avoid everything but I drive in a manner that gives me the best chance not to hit something if something out of the ordinary happens.
You say the gap you leave is what looks right? That is just your perception which may or may not be right.Surely a professional driver would know how to judge a safe gap rahter than just go by what he sees or thinks.
All I can say is a lot of experienced drivers think they are leaving a safe gap but in reality they are not and I am speaking from personal experience.
Seen it first hand many times.
really, really…really? so you’re saying i’m in the wrong for saying what looks right and what i should do is judge it
i don’t think being able to judge a safe distance is to be reserved for the professional drivers
scrole to 3.32
this is the real reason you don`t see anybody doing anything
stevieboy308:
really, really…really? so you’re saying i’m in the wrong for saying what looks right and what i should do is judge it
What’s this, a coded message? semantis
albion1971:
Dieseldoforme:
albion1971:
Can’t see it myself.
Same amount of traffic.
50 or 56 makes no difference to congestion.
56 gets an extra 6 miles of traffic through each lane every hour.
I take your point and I agree but I think they have to take into account those who ignore the speed limit.You know what happens. Probably the reason why they keep the limit to 40 on A roads because most trucks do 50 already.
But trucks cannot (normally) exceed 56 even if they want to.
So if the speed limit WAS 56 then few trucks could abuse that limit.
Even in a 50 limit, few trucks are prosecuted because of the 10% + 2
guidline, which is 57mph anyway.
So if it were 56, cars could get out of the way and let an extra 6 miles
of truckers truck every single hour !
stevieboy308:
albion1971:
I am not saying I can avoid everything but I drive in a manner that gives me the best chance not to hit something if something out of the ordinary happens.
You say the gap you leave is what looks right? That is just your perception which may or may not be right.Surely a professional driver would know how to judge a safe gap rahter than just go by what he sees or thinks.
All I can say is a lot of experienced drivers think they are leaving a safe gap but in reality they are not and I am speaking from personal experience.
Seen it first hand many times.
really, really…really? so you’re saying i’m in the wrong for saying what looks right and what i should do is judge it
i don’t think being able to judge a safe distance is to be reserved for the professional drivers
I did not say you were in the wrong…did I…? I said it depends on your perception which may be right or wrong.Have you ever has a second opinion?
Also I never said judging a safe distance is reserved for professional drivers.
The safe distances have been worked out by speed distance and weight and that is why I said it is better to rely on these factors rather than what you think is right.
You sound angry for some reason?
Driveroneuk:
stevieboy308:
really, really…really? so you’re saying i’m in the wrong for saying what looks right and what i should do is judge it
What’s this, a coded message? semantis
this is what happens when i try to do a coded message after a pint an a half 
semantics
albion1971:
stevieboy308:
albion1971:
I am not saying I can avoid everything but I drive in a manner that gives me the best chance not to hit something if something out of the ordinary happens.
You say the gap you leave is what looks right? That is just your perception which may or may not be right.Surely a professional driver would know how to judge a safe gap rahter than just go by what he sees or thinks.
All I can say is a lot of experienced drivers think they are leaving a safe gap but in reality they are not and I am speaking from personal experience.
Seen it first hand many times.
really, really…really? so you’re saying i’m in the wrong for saying what looks right and what i should do is judge it
i don’t think being able to judge a safe distance is to be reserved for the professional drivers
I did not say you were in the wrong…did I…? I said it depends on your perception which may be right or wrong.Have you ever has a second opinion?
Also I never said judging a safe distance is reserved for professional drivers.
The safe distances have been worked out by speed distance and weight and that is why I said it is better to rely on these factors rather than what you think is right.
You sound angry for some reason?
like i tried saying, semantics.
different loads affect the braking, different trucks brake differently, different trailers brake differently, different road surfaces affect the braking, etc - one size does not fit all. i’ll carry on judging by what i see and feel.
4 driving examiners thought it was alright
Fair enough you carry on but 38T takes about the same time to stop no matter which trailer it is on.Yes some loads are affected by braking but in general the average load when secure will react the same.Road surfaces obviously make a big difference to stopping distances.
I just hope you have good judgement…Safe driving.
I take it when you were with the driving examiners you had no load on? driving examiners can have absolutely no experience of driving heavy vehicles so maybe they are not the best to judge!
You still drive the same as when you passed your test I take it.
who would maintain them and test them 