bigvern1:
I suggested that you DON’T read the posts correctly. Where did I call you a name? I noticed that no-one called you anything. Mr Penn called an intolerable user on this thread a name. And called you his “girly friend.” You have proven yourself a lemon, and are very,very evasive in regards to a straight answer.
Now who is the trouble maker here?
For someone who is trying to impress us all, with your defence of a poor hourly rate.Your PR skills leave a lot to be desired.
Well Mr Harry Monk Ltd; if they are such a good firm why didn’t you take a job with them in the last 2yrs when you’ve kept bangin on about the reason you have had to go it on yer own is coz there were no decent jobs that paid the going rate yer [zb] hypocrite Now yer all dewy eyed over £6.20 per hr and if can do 12hrs & 15hrs and 5 nights out a week yer gonna have about £400.00.
I haven’t made this thread a personal crusade because if you had taken the time to read the post that opened this thread it was actually about how new entrants to the industry would be feeling mighty ■■■■■■ off after investing their hard earned and then being rewarded with cleaner’s rates £6.20 per hr. But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover have got the idea that I’m retired, not that it makes one iota of difference, but I’ve been back in the game for almost 3 yrs and I’ve put plenty of post’s and pics on here to show that but maybe coz this time round I was only driving a 7.5 tonner I wasn’t in the big wheeler club so what the [zb] do I know about the transport game Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 Getting the OCPC isn’t the be all and end all and is a very basic qualification, well it has to be given the type of person who is usually having to do it, so just for you Harry unlike most people my route to driving was through the Traffic Office and by the age of 21 I had gained my Qualification for Foremen & Supervisors in Road Haulage and was elected a Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport now the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport and then payed for my own Class 1 and passed 4 days after my 21st birthday. So you and your girl friend in Dover can both be as patronising and have your digs at me and try to be as clever as you think you are coz I will not let you get away with it and you will find youv’e taken on the wrong person for sure Harry boy.
Regards
Dave Penn;
2nd paragraph 5th line down, Did I say you called us names■■? I do not feel the needs to impress and is it so wrong to have an opinion and be big enough to stand up and be counted.
He actually says “from a wizened old trout OR FROM THE LIKES OF YOU”
FFS this thread is getting boring now, think I will go and watch the grass grow. £6.20 per hour, total crap but maybe OK for a mentally challenged Bulgarian or the like. My 13 yr old daughter gets more for delivering a few news papers. Is Lesleyanne related to Lorraine at Richard Longs by any chance, because she is never wrong either
raymundo:
FFS this thread is getting boring now, think I will go and watch the grass grow. £6.20 per hour, total crap but maybe OK for a mentally challenged Bulgarian or the like. My 13 yr old daughter gets more for delivering a few news papers. Is Lesleyanne related to Lorraine at Richard Longs by any chance, because she is never wrong either
Disparaging Bulgarians and our other foreign nationals does not bode well in this day and age of equality. No relation to Lorraine but glad to see that there is someone out there big enough to have an opinion.
raymundo:
quote … ‘’ Disparaging Bulgarians and our other foreign nationals does not bode well in this day and age of equality.‘’
Certainly are not mine, would you like to alter that to maybe … yours. Would you care to divulge the nationality of your happy truckers?
And where is this so called equality in road haulage ?
13 Trucks 12 English and 1 Polish. I am everyones equal would not be discrimate in this day and age. As far as I am aware there is equality in Haulage we have employed both sexes.
bigvern1:
I suggested that you DON’T read the posts correctly. Where did I call you a name? I noticed that no-one called you anything. Mr Penn called an intolerable user on this thread a name. And called you his “girly friend.” You have proven yourself a lemon, and are very,very evasive in regards to a straight answer.
Now who is the trouble maker here?
For someone who is trying to impress us all, with your defence of a poor hourly rate.Your PR skills leave a lot to be desired.
Well Mr Harry Monk Ltd; if they are such a good firm why didn’t you take a job with them in the last 2yrs when you’ve kept bangin on about the reason you have had to go it on yer own is coz there were no decent jobs that paid the going rate yer [zb] hypocrite Now yer all dewy eyed over £6.20 per hr and if can do 12hrs & 15hrs and 5 nights out a week yer gonna have about £400.00.
I haven’t made this thread a personal crusade because if you had taken the time to read the post that opened this thread it was actually about how new entrants to the industry would be feeling mighty ■■■■■■ off after investing their hard earned and then being rewarded with cleaner’s rates £6.20 per hr. But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover have got the idea that I’m retired, not that it makes one iota of difference, but I’ve been back in the game for almost 3 yrs and I’ve put plenty of post’s and pics on here to show that but maybe coz this time round I was only driving a 7.5 tonner I wasn’t in the big wheeler club so what the [zb] do I know about the transport game Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 Getting the OCPC isn’t the be all and end all and is a very basic qualification, well it has to be given the type of person who is usually having to do it, so just for you Harry unlike most people my route to driving was through the Traffic Office and by the age of 21 I had gained my Qualification for Foremen & Supervisors in Road Haulage and was elected a Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport now the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport and then payed for my own Class 1 and passed 4 days after my 21st birthday. So you and your girl friend in Dover can both be as patronising and have your digs at me and try to be as clever as you think you are coz I will not let you get away with it and you will find youv’e taken on the wrong person for sure Harry boy.
Regards
Dave Penn;
2nd paragraph 5th line down, Did I say you called us names■■? I do not feel the needs to impress and is it so wrong to have an opinion and be big enough to stand up and be counted.
He actually says “from a wizened old trout OR FROM THE LIKES OF YOU”
But he was talking to harry
But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover
bigvern1:
I suggested that you DON’T read the posts correctly. Where did I call you a name? I noticed that no-one called you anything. Mr Penn called an intolerable user on this thread a name. And called you his “girly friend.” You have proven yourself a lemon, and are very,very evasive in regards to a straight answer.
Now who is the trouble maker here?
For someone who is trying to impress us all, with your defence of a poor hourly rate.Your PR skills leave a lot to be desired.
Well Mr Harry Monk Ltd; if they are such a good firm why didn’t you take a job with them in the last 2yrs when you’ve kept bangin on about the reason you have had to go it on yer own is coz there were no decent jobs that paid the going rate yer [zb] hypocrite Now yer all dewy eyed over £6.20 per hr and if can do 12hrs & 15hrs and 5 nights out a week yer gonna have about £400.00.
I haven’t made this thread a personal crusade because if you had taken the time to read the post that opened this thread it was actually about how new entrants to the industry would be feeling mighty ■■■■■■ off after investing their hard earned and then being rewarded with cleaner’s rates £6.20 per hr. But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover have got the idea that I’m retired, not that it makes one iota of difference, but I’ve been back in the game for almost 3 yrs and I’ve put plenty of post’s and pics on h ere to show that but maybe coz this time round I was only driving a 7.5 tonner I wasn’t in the big wheeler club so what the [zb] do I know about the transport game Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 Getting the OCPC isn’t the be all and end all and is a very basic qualification, well it has to be given the type of person who is usually having to do it, so just for you Harry unlike most people my route to driving was through the Traffic Office and by the age of 21 I had gained my Qualification for Foremen & Supervisors in Road Haulage and was elected a Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport now the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport and then payed for my own Class 1 and passed 4 days after my 21st birthday. So you and your girl friend in Dover can both be as patronising and have your digs at me and try to be as clever as you think you are coz I will not let you get away with it and you will find youv’e taken on the wrong person for sure Harry boy.
Regards
Dave Penn;
2nd paragraph 5th line down, Did I say you called us names■■? I do not feel the needs to impress and is it so wrong to have an opinion and be big enough to stand up and be counted.
He actually says “from a wizened old trout OR FROM THE LIKES OF YOU”
But he was talking to harry
But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover
Exactly, harry being the Likes of you and a reasonable assumption that you are the…!!
Lesley’s only response to a reasonable debate is to say, or a variant of it, “No, you’re wrong, so nerrr”… I think she’s here on a wind up… Or it’s a second account created by someone to do a bit of trolling. No real Guv’nor could actually be this delusional surely? She know’s £6.20 is derisory for class one work, everyone here knows it… When the driver shortage really bites, she’s doomed because there’s no money to pay a competative wage.
I for one won’t miss operators with this attitude.
Lesley’s only response to a reasonable debate is to say, or a variant of it, “No, you’re wrong, so nerrr”… I think she’s here on a wind up… Or it’s a second account created by someone to do a bit of trolling. No real Guv’nor could actually be this delusional surely? She know’s £6.20 is derisory for class one work, everyone here knows it… When the driver shortage really bites, she’s doomed because there’s no money to pay a competative wage.
I for one won’t miss operators with this attitude.
I am a member of staff not owner/director etc an Office Member who got dragged into this by the use of my e mail address. I do not make up the pay structure nor have any input here but would like to point out again our Drivers are happy or they would not work here.
LOADERS: We are currently looking to recruit up to 10 refuse loaders on an ongoing basis. The hours are 4 days on 3 days off, 6am to finish, you will average about 40 hours per week and the pay rate for this role is £6.20ph. - From Reed International.
Labourer — West London — £6.20 — £6.40
Location: West London , London Salary: From £6.20 to £6.40 per hour Date posted: 17/08/2012 12:34Job type:Temporary Company: Potensis. Contact: Sam Jaffe Ref: Totaljobs/SJA - 0019 Job ID: 54359290
Our client is a London based house builder, building high rise and mixed use schemes in West London they are seeking Labourers across several projects. An ideal candidate must have previous labouring experience and hold a current CSCS card. Good communication skills are important as some of the sites will have tenants in the buildings.
Duties will include
·Keeping the site clean
·loading and unloading materials from deliveries
·Assisting trades persons on site
·Other tasks - FROM TOTAL JOBS
Part Time Cleaner
Salary:Exceeds National Minimum Wage
Location:GLENROTHES, Fife
Job ref:GLE/41213
Job Type:Permanent
Hours:mon - Fri
Closing date:11 Sep, 2012
Description:
Part time cleaning of offices and workshop. Vacuuming, dusting mopping.Job Ref: SAS. Call 01592 623919 - leave details - name, number and job ref. Weekly paid 6.20 per hour. Mon - Thurs, 1730 - 2000 and Fri 1600 - 1800 12 hours per week.
CLEANING OPERATIVE
Company:Andron Contract Management
Salary:£6.13 PER HOUR 7p less!
Location:GLENROTHES, FIFE
Job ref:GLE/41120
Job Type:Permanent
Hours:20 PER WEEK, MON TO FRI, BETWEEN 1PM TO 5PM
Description:
Experience in a similar role is essential. Duties include cleaning toilets and kitchen areas, vacuuming, mopping, polishing and dusting, emptying bins, general office cleaning to a high standard and all other associated tasks as required. Applicants to apply below and please quote vacancy reference when applying.
Both from Job is Job
In my opinion £6:20 for class 1 is a disgrace, and indefensible
This thread should be forwarded to our gallant leaders in Westminster, she would go along way in politics 'cos they can’t answer a simple straightforward question either …
I can’t be the only one that thinks you lot are being thick as ■■■■ by expecting someone to come out and admit that the rate they pay is ■■■■, regardless of what they think, It’s simple common sense.
Yes I think It’s ■■■■, but as Lesley said probably somewhere around the 1st page, it’s for the drivers to decide and they have decided to work for that rate.
Then let’s say she’s as thick as some people are coming across and did say, yes it is ■■■■, then what? Will you all sleep better?
Have you never bought anything and made a daft offer? It’s up to the person to decide to sell it for that price or not, if they do then was it really a daft offer?
No one has got a gun to anyone’s head, if you’re not happy with the rate and can do better elsewhere then go there or do something else like stack shelves.
And what a different type of job pays doesn’t make any difference if they have enough drivers at the current rate
stevieboy308:
I can’t be the only one that thinks you lot are being thick as [zb] by expecting someone to come out and admit that the rate of pay is [zb], regaurdless I’d what they think, It’s simple common sense.
Yes I think It’s [zb], but as Lesley said probably somewhere around the 1st page, it’s for the drivers to decide and they have decided to work for that rate.
Then let’s say she’s as thick as some people are coming across and did say, yes it is [zb], then what? Will you all sleep better?
Have you never bought anything and made a daft offer? It’s up to the person to decide to sell it for that price or not, if they do then was it really a daft offer?
No one has got a gun to anyone’s head, if you’re not happy with the rate and can do better elsewhere then go there or do something else like stack shelves.
And what a different type of job pays doesn’t make any difference if they have enough drivers at the current rate
Well I’m far from thick…Certainly wouldn’t to a job that won’t pay correctly. If an haulage company opened up near them, paid more money, less hours newer kit. I wonder how many would stick around?
stevieboy308:
I can’t be the only one that thinks you lot are being thick as [zb] by expecting someone to come out and admit that the rate of pay is [zb], regaurdless I’d what they think, It’s simple common sense.
Yes I think It’s [zb], but as Lesley said probably somewhere around the 1st page, it’s for the drivers to decide and they have decided to work for that rate.
Then let’s say she’s as thick as some people are coming across and did say, yes it is [zb], then what? Will you all sleep better?
Have you never bought anything and made a daft offer? It’s up to the person to decide to sell it for that price or not, if they do then was it really a daft offer?
No one has got a gun to anyone’s head, if you’re not happy with the rate and can do better elsewhere then go there or do something else like stack shelves.
And what a different type of job pays doesn’t make any difference if they have enough drivers at the current rate
Well I’m far from thick…Certainly wouldn’t to a job that won’t pay correctly. If an haulage company opened up near them, paid more money, less hours newer kit. I wonder how many would stick around?
And that would be supply and demand at work, they would then have to put up the rate to compete.
The same way you’ll pay more for something in an auction if someone else wants it as well, but you’ll only pay upto your max bid if someone runs you up to it, if they don’t then you won’t, why pay more? That is what this company is doing. And if you’re bidding on a fridge, it matters not what you could get a dishwasher for!
But according to rikki, there’s a firm not too far away
That is struggling to keep drivers whilst paying £7.50 ph
My guess is that there are a lot of drivers who would not work a 12 hour shift for £6.20 an hour for the first eight hours and time and a half after that, but who would be prepared to work a 12 hour shift for 7.23 an hour straight through.
Did I say you called us names■■? I do not feel the needs to impress and is it so wrong to have an opinion and be big enough to stand up and be counted.
