Harry Monk:
Yes, if it falls down anywhere it will be on holiday pay.
But the fact that they have a low turnover of drivers suggests that employees are content to work there and they are possibly better placed to make judgement than keyboard warriors who would have to Google “Coombe Valley” to even know where it was.
Possibly, and I don’t know where it is and for £6.20 per hour, it’s not worth googlin’ either
As I said, there’s ways of paying, the £90 per day we spoke of was a fair way of paying if that’s how much they want to pay, or if it’s based on 12hrs then £7.50 per hour for 12hrs then overtime, that way you’d get holiday pay based on £7.50 per hour x 12hrs rather than £6.20 per hour x 8.
When I worked for Roadways, they paid £7.50 per hour for all hours mon - fri, then £10 per hour on a Sat and £14 per hour on a Sunday. Your holiday pay was worked out on an average of your mon - fri hours, ie if you averaged 70hrs mon - fri, you got 70hrs holiday pay @ £7.50 per hour. And they didn’t deduct breaks either, so 12hrs was 12hrs, not 12hrs 45 or whatever
You have to bear in mind that not everybody makes money their first consideration. Some people, myself included, prefer to work for small family owned firms even though we know we could earn far more working for Tesco etc.
I could work for Tesco and be on X amount an hour with pension, paid holidays, subsidised days trips to London etc, instead I prefer to work for my own company, even though it paid me a grand total of £1157.60 for a month of tramping in August, including nights out.
But I just couldn’t work for Tesco etc. Wouldn’t be happy. And what’s the point in money if you’re unhappy?
My local knowledge tells me that CVT are seen as a good firm to work for, who pay the going rate for work in that area. Quite why the OP, who is from Manchester, and is retired, has made this thread a personal crusade is beyond me.
Harry Monk:
You have to bear in mind that not everybody makes money their first consideration. Some people, myself included, prefer to work for small family owned firms even though we know we could earn far more working for Tesco etc.
I could work for Tesco and be on X amount an hour with pension, paid holidays, subsidised days trips to London etc, instead I prefer to work for my own company, even though it paid me a grand total of £1157.60 for a month of tramping in August, including nights out.
But I just couldn’t work for Tesco etc. Wouldn’t be happy. And what’s the point in money if you’re unhappy?
My local knowledge tells me that CVT are seen as a good firm to work for, who pay the going rate for work in that area. Quite why the OP, who is from Manchester, and is retired, has made this thread a personal crusade is beyond me.
I sort of agree with you Harry, I’d rather take slightly less doing a job (easy job) I want for a firm I choose than a high paying ■■■■ firm, but there has to be a line where it’s just not possible, and £6.20 per hour crosses that line by quite a bit.
I mainly do container work, although I do other work too, because it’s easy. It’s also 1 of the lowest paid of all haulage jobs for the same reason. But I still wouldn’t do it for £6.20 per hour.
You’re still setting your firm up, and you must’ve expected a climb and to be honest, for your 1st month and Aug is a quiet month too, £1157 isn’t too bad, and that’s what you’ve ‘paid yourself as a driver’ NOT what the firm has took
If you work your hours out, I imagine your pay hardly differs from “£6.20 an hour for the first eight hours, time-and-a-half after that”. Just this year I was pulling boxes out of Thamesport for £85 a day as an employee of somebody else’s company. Have a 15 hour day for that and work out what your hourly rate was.
Harry Monk:
If you work your hours out, I imagine your pay hardly differs from “£6.20 an hour for the first eight hours, time-and-a-half after that”. Just this year I was pulling boxes out of Thamesport for £85 a day as an employee of somebody else’s company. Have a 15 hour day for that and work out what your hourly rate was.
Aimed @ Me? You’re probably right, hence the example, but my holiday pay was ■■■■ loads better, and they now pay £8 - I’m going back 3yrs
splitshift:
This one is going to run & run the TNUK version of Coronation St
It is, and the bizarre thing is that Coombe Valley Transport is a completely average firm, distinguished perhaps only by the fact that the part-owner, Lesleyanne, knows how to drive her company onto Google’s front page by manipulating a thick northern ex-lorry driver.
Harry Monk:
You have to bear in mind that not everybody makes money their first consideration. Some people, myself included, prefer to work for small family owned firms even though we know we could earn far more working for Tesco etc.
I could work for Tesco and be on X amount an hour with pension, paid holidays, subsidised days trips to London etc, instead I prefer to work for my own company, even though it paid me a grand total of £1157.60 for a month of tramping in August, including nights out.
But I just couldn’t work for Tesco etc. Wouldn’t be happy. And what’s the point in money if you’re unhappy?
My local knowledge tells me that CVT are seen as a good firm to work for, who pay the going rate for work in that area. Quite why the OP, who is from Manchester, and is retired, has made this thread a personal crusade is beyond me.
Well Mr Harry Monk Ltd; if they are such a good firm why didn’t you take a job with them in the last 2yrs when you’ve kept bangin on about the reason you have had to go it on yer own is coz there were no decent jobs that paid the going rate yer ■■■■■■■ hypocrite Now yer all dewy eyed over £6.20 per hr and if can do 12hrs & 15hrs and 5 nights out a week yer gonna have about £400.00.
I haven’t made this thread a personal crusade because if you had taken the time to read the post that opened this thread it was actually about how new entrants to the industry would be feeling mighty ■■■■■■ off after investing their hard earned and then being rewarded with cleaner’s rates £6.20 per hr. But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover have got the idea that I’m retired, not that it makes one iota of difference, but I’ve been back in the game for almost 3 yrs and I’ve put plenty of post’s and pics on here to show that but maybe coz this time round I was only driving a 7.5 tonner I wasn’t in the big wheeler club so what the ■■■■ do I know about the transport game Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 Getting the OCPC isn’t the be all and end all and is a very basic qualification, well it has to be given the type of person who is usually having to do it, so just for you Harry unlike most people my route to driving was through the Traffic Office and by the age of 21 I had gained my Qualification for Foremen & Supervisors in Road Haulage and was elected a Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport now the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport and then payed for my own Class 1 and passed 4 days after my 21st birthday. So you and your girl friend in Dover can both be as patronising and have your digs at me and try to be as clever as you think you are coz I will not let you get away with it and you will find youv’e taken on the wrong person for sure Harry boy.
Not been on the pop Harry, I’m a single parent now with an 11yr old son who I need to have my head together for so everything I’ve said is from a very sober head and is very true. So you can take it any way you want.
As you’re worried about new entrants, anyone with a bit of nous will do some research before spending time and money, they’ll then decide if its worth it to them, the ones that do carry on are carrying on with their eyes open on what to expect, It’s their choice so why be worried or feel sorry for them?
Them people without nous who go blindly in with brass and time thinking they’re onto a dead cert, well i suppose you do need to worry about them and feel sorry an all that, but that’s generally nothing to do with low wages considering their outlay.
Yes it ain’t a good wage but none of there drivers have been pressganged in to working there. If the pay and conditions were that bad they wouldn’t get drivers.
Harry Monk:
You have to bear in mind that not everybody makes money their first consideration. Some people, myself included, prefer to work for small family owned firms even though we know we could earn far more working for Tesco etc.
I could work for Tesco and be on X amount an hour with pension, paid holidays, subsidised days trips to London etc, instead I prefer to work for my own company, even though it paid me a grand total of £1157.60 for a month of tramping in August, including nights out.
But I just couldn’t work for Tesco etc. Wouldn’t be happy. And what’s the point in money if you’re unhappy?
My local knowledge tells me that CVT are seen as a good firm to work for, who pay the going rate for work in that area. Quite why the OP, who is from Manchester, and is retired, has made this thread a personal crusade is beyond me.
Well Mr Harry Monk Ltd; if they are such a good firm why didn’t you take a job with them in the last 2yrs when you’ve kept bangin on about the reason you have had to go it on yer own is coz there were no decent jobs that paid the going rate yer [zb] hypocrite Now yer all dewy eyed over £6.20 per hr and if can do 12hrs & 15hrs and 5 nights out a week yer gonna have about £400.00.
I haven’t made this thread a personal crusade because if you had taken the time to read the post that opened this thread it was actually about how new entrants to the industry would be feeling mighty ■■■■■■ off after investing their hard earned and then being rewarded with cleaner’s rates £6.20 per hr. But there is one thing for sure I’m not going to take abuse from a wizened old trout or from the likes of you plus I don’t know where you and yer girlie friend in Dover have got the idea that I’m retired, not that it makes one iota of difference, but I’ve been back in the game for almost 3 yrs and I’ve put plenty of post’s and pics on here to show that but maybe coz this time round I was only driving a 7.5 tonner I wasn’t in the big wheeler club so what the [zb] do I know about the transport game Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 Getting the OCPC isn’t the be all and end all and is a very basic qualification, well it has to be given the type of person who is usually having to do it, so just for you Harry unlike most people my route to driving was through the Traffic Office and by the age of 21 I had gained my Qualification for Foremen & Supervisors in Road Haulage and was elected a Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport now the Chartered Institute of Logistics & Transport and then payed for my own Class 1 and passed 4 days after my 21st birthday. So you and your girl friend in Dover can both be as patronising and have your digs at me and try to be as clever as you think you are coz I will not let you get away with it and you will find youv’e taken on the wrong person for sure Harry boy.
Regards
Dave Penn;
Well Mr Penn at last showing your true colours. You have stooped so low in this once intelligent forum. Did you feel that you were losing face■■? Name calling will get you absolutely nowhere. Suggesting that I am Harrys girlfriend shows your pathetic mentality. Your status stated retired. If you are prepared to go on sites like this why lie in your profile data. You really do not understand that I do not care what you think. you are a total non entity in our lives. So if you want to throw your teddies out please do so in a more professional manner.
So you work for a tight arse as well harry?
Well I reckon it’s about 20yrs worth more than you Harry and you will have to work a lot harder than you do now to get to the same level I’d got to at age 22 