Gridley51:
Chris Webb:
THE SHERIFF:
Last battle between England and Scotland as far as I’m concerned was in mid 70s,one saturday afternoon,when I was week-ended at Chapel Hall and Scotland won,thanks to little Jimmy Johnstone.There was me and a driver from Norwich surrounded by you bloody lot in t’cafe/bar and we were glad you won 
The best game we ever won was the one in 1967 which made us unofficial world champions.And we won it with an independent ref.
Harry,don`t waste your time building bits of the wall.When we get independence there will be a whole new one being built.As foreign motors will not be allowed entry to Scotland,all trunks will have to drop trailers at the border to be pulled by a Scottish lorry.Obviously there will be jobs for shunters,but preference will be given to the Scots lads,although a substantial deposit of white tax savings could possibly swing it for some of the better looking ones.That of course may not be necessary as we will lay claim to the IoM which is ours anyway.On the other hand Scots courts take a dim view of tax entitlement manipulation.
I`d better go and get some work done.
Mark.
I will have no problem as I am dual nationality so will I need to pop up for a second passport 
Chris, how bad were tha Bannocks Burnt and what medication did thou use, Double Diamond perhaps ? appen.What job were you on that you got weekended there, not much fun I,ll bet.
Hello Sammy, can you tell me if the steelworks on the road to Stocksbridge owned by Fox, are the same company that were involved in making the bouncing bomb, thanks Bob.
THE SHERIFF:
Chris, how bad were tha Bannocks Burnt and what medication did thou use, Double Diamond perhaps ? appen.What job were you on that you got weekended there, not much fun I,ll bet.
Eyup Bob.
I put some McEwans heavy on me bannocks and it worked a treat,better than supping it 
The weekended away job was when I tipped at Whitehaven from Manchester on a friday and was told to run up empty to BP Grangemouth and load for May and Bakers Norwich.I told our lot in Sheffield I would be weekended and they told me to get on with it,so I did.I ran to Grangemouth,loaded and got back to Chapel Hall,a wee bit over me time but that was par for the course in t’olden days I had to take the saturday off at The Glen Hotel - I think that’s what they called it. I started again on the sunday and ran to Sheffield with Sleaford or summat on the old log book and had an early start monday to make a bit of time up,tipped Norwich,ran to Shell at Bacton below Cromer,loaded wet methanol for Scunthorpe and had a dodgy at Newark - slightly off route tha knows.I was paid eleven hours for the day off up your end.Good job The Glen had a bar and a telly.
Them were t’days
Chris, in them days what training did you have to run hazardous liquids like you were carrying, Methanol is a very dangerous liquid, were there certain things you had to carryout I was going to say proceedures but I canny spell it tha knows. I remember years ago one of Leather Chemicals tankers crashing on the M6 south of Charnock Richards and 2 people getting killed after being in contact with the contents of the tanker,I can recall it was some type of acid.
THE SHERIFF:
Chris, in them days what training did you have to run hazardous liquids like you were carrying, Methanol is a very dangerous liquid, were there certain things you had to carryout I was going to say proceedures but I canny spell it tha knows. I remember years ago one of Leather Chemicals tankers crashing on the M6 south of Charnock Richards and 2 people getting killed after being in contact with the contents of the tanker,I can recall it was some type of acid.
I remember that and when i did my first haz chem 1983/4 the chap training us brought up that crash and the problems they had IICR The liquid
was ollium and was pritty bad stuff
John
Thanks for that John, it was Ollium I could not remember for the life of me what it was called, I did hear that there was nothing left of the casualties, pretty bad stuff by any imagination. Not for me I am afraid, Thanks again John.
THE SHERIFF:
Thanks for that John, it was Ollium I could not remember for the life of me what it was called, I did hear that there was nothing left of the casualties, pretty bad stuff by any imagination. Not for me I am afraid, Thanks again John.
When we did our haz chem the training chap asked me to go outside and get so various stone from the roadside… when i got back he had very carefully
put some liquid in a test tude(with all the gear on mask gloves and so on)he than put the stones into the liquid and in ten seconds the had disapeared
into the liquid. that was this Ollium stuff.I’ve seen it on the back of tanks since and kept well clear.
John
Is it Oleum you are talking about? A mix of sulphuric and some other acid.? If it is I dont think its in the top table for the most dangerous substances.
Mark.
Its dangerous enough for me M ark, but for interest sake what are the most dangerous, so I can avoid them. Bob
Them organic things are not so good as they are unpridictable.once i carried some magnesiun swarf. it was from wheels that had been machined and going to Glaxo somewhere near barrow i think. the chap who loaded me said it had to be kept completely dry or it would generate heat and melt the metal drums this stuff was in …it was then going into pills for us lot to swollow.
John
THE SHERIFF:
Chris, in them days what training did you have to run hazardous liquids like you were carrying, Methanol is a very dangerous liquid, were there certain things you had to carryout I was going to say proceedures but I canny spell it tha knows. I remember years ago one of Leather Chemicals tankers crashing on the M6 south of Charnock Richards and 2 people getting killed after being in contact with the contents of the tanker,I can recall it was some type of acid.
There was no training on hazardous goods when I started on tankers in 1975 but it came soon after and I can recall that incident was one of the things which brought training to the fore as one the people who was killed was a nurse who was not involved but stopped to help and when she walked into the oleum and she de solved as it a very high strength acid I did all the ones which I could and when I was on the union and a safety rep. I was able to do extra ones as we did some very nasty loads and I even did the one for gases. When I was on Pickfords in the 60s we used to pull nuclear fuels trailers with not to much training only when when we picked the trailers up they gave us a little chat and we even parked them up in lay bye’s to fiddle home on a dodgy you would be sent to the tower for that now days. I reckon you could sell them loads now for a good price
THE SHERIFF:
Hello Sammy, can you tell me if the steelworks on the road to Stocksbridge owned by Fox, are the same company that were involved in making the bouncing bomb, thanks Bob.
Hi Bob there is a Sheffield Forum and if you look in the ex-pats section there is a vast amount of stuff about all the steel works I use it and learn things as I am not from these parts but have lived here here since 1947 so they nearly accept me now as I probably speak with a broader Yorkshire accent than the natives do I will look through for you to see if I can find the information about the bouncing bomb.
cheers Johnnie
Hi Bob.Ive already posted this and it disappeared.I must be getting too old. I didnt mean to insinuate the Oleum wasn`t dangerous,far from it.But,it seems that there are four grades of dangerous according to HSE or whoever makes the rules.Highest/worst is grade 4 and Oleum is grade 3.
I looked it up after you asked and even the what to do in an emergency bit looks frightening.
On the nuclear flasks bit,was there not a short film made of tests they did in the sixties or seventies where they ran a train into a rail wagon carrying a flask to show how safe it was?
I suppose when you think of the number of lorry journeys made every day on the roads it shows by the lack of serious accidents concerning lorries and toxic chemicals how safe the industry actually is.
Mark.
Thanks for your time and effort Johnnie and Mark, you learn something new everyday, regards Bob.
Hello Johnnie, I remember the night that the nurse was killed by that Olleum liquid, she had a mini car and stopped to help, poor girl. We were turned back north again and put off at Leyland and went down the old road. It,s funny you see literally hundreds of accidents over the years but certain ones stick in your mind.
Like a lot of others I remember being told of the chemical spill and the story of the nurse, like most tales told in many cafes you wonder if they are actually urban myths or the incidents were true, sometimes getting the story from the horses mouth doesn’t always happen and the various stories always seemed to be from somebody who knew somebody was there. I am not doubting this incident by the way and I had a first hand account of how our medically trained personel react to road accidents where they rush to give help. Travelling back North on the A1 one day an elderly couple in a Volvo estate shot passed me then swerved to the nearside then back across to the central barrier hitting it head on and turning full circle in the air before landing facing the barrier again.
I pulled up, hazards on and got out just as a young woman came running past then made to cross over the lane, I manged to grab her back and she called out rather excitedly that she was a Nurse. It wasn’t until I pointed out she wouldn’t be much help to the old couple if she had run out into the traffic that still raced past and got herself killed. She quickly realised what she had done and I think was a bit shocked with her actions. By then others had stopped and the traffic slowed and the young nurse was able to go to the car just as a police car arrived (rather quick I thought at the time). I decided my 38 tonner was too big a hazard and there was plenty of help available so I moved off and away. Having been a First Aid Instructor in the forces I always remembered one of the rules I was told, never run to a casualty but weigh up the situation first for your own safety. I’m sure we’ve heard on numerous occasions about somebody getting killed getting out of a vehicle to assist someone else, even more tragic when they are skilled medical people. Franky.
Hiya frankydodo… you are correct.I was traveling south down the M6 at jct 13 one day and a incident had occured on the north bound carrigeway.
as i passed the crash the Police just arrived in the fast lane. The police car driver had opened his door and put his right foot on the ground. CRASH
another car hit the police car up the backside and into the damaged vehicles. The police man was standing on one leg as his car shot off.It semed
funny at the time but was a close thing for him.
John
I remember the same thing happening on the A74 at Kirkpatrick Fleming, it was Glasgow fair saturday 1978, the Police patrol car was parked in a big lay by southbound when a car ran right up the rear end of it and totalled both cars, luckly no serious injuries occured. Bob.
Re: Sloan’s Haulage -
My Father (Peter Williamson) worked with Sloanes Haulage from 1974 for years. He drove the tanks into Buxton and was the scanny driver on the continent for Broxburn. Got loads of photos of traucks in both colours - blue of sloans haulage and red of broxburn haulage. If anybody wants a copy get in touch!!!
Cheers Paul Williamson.