Heres a link to some old transport manufacturers about Wolverhampton.Guy motors is one of them but Ive left them all on for you old guys on here.
The Guy pics are not great but the link to restored Guys at the bottom has some nice pics.
To get the restored pics click pics on first page then click pics on second page.
localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/ … ercial.htm
Mark.
Hello again and seasons greetings.
We seem to have a couple of threads going at the same time but never mind it adds to the interest. To add a bit of info to the Knight of the Road tale I’ve attached a poster from, as the writing below says, the 1948 brochure of Atkinson Lorries (1933) Ltd where it seems the Knight of the Road idea was taken on. Quite early as the date shows which probably means why we haven’t had a difinitive answer on this from the forum with it being over 60 years, many of us presuming it was around the early Sixties when the Knight first galloped into town! Why the Knight of the Road logo was taken on by Atkinson isn’t answered but seeing as it is a brochure then maybe its a Ad man thing thought up to add interest in the latest product and passed to the Artist in question to come up with a striking piece of artwork. The number plate ALP 48 seems to mean Atkinson Lorries Preston 1948. Hope this helps, I’ll try and find more. Franky.
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Just found this painting of a London-Scottish Atkinson and drag.They were a Nottingham based company.I vaguely remember seeing them on the A1 and then heading south west on the A614 near Worksop towards Ollerton and Notts at night.
hi everyone hope you all had a good Christmas, Jim if you want to post that photo of L-S be my quest or another photo on my bucket site your welcome to use, still trying to sort out the problem for posting photos on to this site, had a drink with Franky and some of my ex work mates yesterday. you couldn’t get in the lounge for sand diesel fumes and black smoke, 
wishing you all the very best for the coming year. bumper
Sorry Jim,never had much to do with the RR engines and cant remember anything about the petrol ones. I remember when RR diesels started appearing in trucks in my time and what I remember was that they were not up to much.Im sure the drivers didnt like them for lack of "go" and the owners didnt like them as they were unreliable.They were common in plant at the same time,mainly compressors and didnt get a good press there either.I might still have an odd manual for them up in the office. I meant to go and look in the office for some old Commercial Motors from about that period but not had time and think they might have been chucked anyway,but will get around to it one day. On a seperate note,I was reading a thread about Manchester haulage firms on this forum and saw a bit about Kaye Goodfellow.I was looking for a pic of a motor he used to own but couldnt find it.
It was an ex army tank transporter,I`m sure the unit was a Scammel and it had an auto box.Allison I think.This would be about 1970,any one remember it?
Mark.
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On a seperate note,I was reading a thread about Manchester haulage firms on this forum and saw a bit about Kaye Goodfellow.I was looking for a pic of a motor he used to own but couldnt find it. It was an ex army tank transporter,Im sure the unit was a Scammel and it had an auto box.Allison I think.This would be about 1970,any one remember it?
Mark.
I’m sure about the Army connection, but try this link for Kaye Goodfellow pics: paulanderson.fotopic.net/c1713664.html
Thanks 240 Gardner.Im sure it was the Scammel Crusader.I remember the load he brought in was a machine tool weighing 48 tons and the boss saying I couldnt get a crane hire as it would be on a very low,low loader,so would be able to roll it off.The low bit was 29" to the deck and we had to knock the back bogey off to get the machine low enough to get in the door of the building.No hydraulic necks then,just jacks and pins.The back bogey weighed nine tons and took a bit of manuevering on its own.We took it off to get in the door,then put it back on to reverse up the shop,then off again,then the next twelve hours were spent jacking this beast up and rolling it off over the back end on to sleeper packing. Im sure the driver said it weighed 75 tons empty.
I remember part of the reg of the unit was GTF,and I remember that because while we were deciding how it was coming off the motor all the clever guys were coming down from the offices and offering their suggestions.The last guy to do so suggested it should come of the motor over the side because there were ribs in the bed casting running across the way.This was a machine which was 15ft high at one end and most of the 48 ton total was in that end so it was a particularly bad suggestion.My mate looked at him and said “Bob,can you read that number plate?” Bob said yes “it`s GTF…” exactly said my mate,now do it.
My mate has since passed on but these words will stick with me for ever.
That’s the first illustration I’ve ever seen of a London Scottish wagon (and in colour too).
The thing about London Scottish is that they seemed almost mythical, and were endlessly used as an example of how things used to be (also known as 'you youngsters don’t know you’re living). If you moaned about a unit or a long shift, one of the old-timers would inevitably come out with ‘Well when we were with London Scottish…’
I knew quite a few drivers who had been with them (late 40s to mid 50s I guess) so I always assumed they were a pretty big outfit and Scottish-based.
And to be fair to the Scotswood Rd boys, I don’t suppose it was actually the engines that I was complaining about in the old Seddons - they were ex-BR and really falling apart. Wish I did have some pics, but I never thought about it in those days. And even then I would have been ashamed of some of those motors…
Brilliant thread! All the best when it comes folks - and cheers.
Hy Macdangerous, I think London Scottish must have been pre 1948 and would have been Nationalised into BRS never to reappear…Tony.
From BRS The Early Years 1948 - 1953 by Arthur Ingram and Gordon Mustoe
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London Scottish Division of BRS
Another one with a similar liver to LS Jim
A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE
Happy New Year lads.(and ladies)
Mark.
Great responses folks - I was starting to think that I’d imagined the whole London Scottish story, so it’s great to see all those photos and info - thanks indeed.
The photo of the Albion in the BRS colours got me thinking - was the London Scottish I’m talking about actually just a BRS depot which was referred to by the drivers as London Scottish?
Flatman’s pic of the Maudsley was registered in 1949 (which fits with the old drivers I knew) and is in LS livery, so was this the same outfit and did they at some point re-paint the fleet in BRS colours or was it a seperate operation? I doubt if there are many of those old boys around now to enlighten us, since most of them were well into their fifties forty years ago. Still, you never know…
Best to everybody for 2010. Happy trails!
macdangerous:
Great responses folks - I was starting to think that I’d imagined the whole London Scottish story, so it’s great to see all those photos and info - thanks indeed.The photo of the Albion in the BRS colours got me thinking - was the London Scottish I’m talking about actually just a BRS depot which was referred to by the drivers as London Scottish?
Flatman’s pic of the Maudsley was registered in 1949 (which fits with the old drivers I knew) and is in LS livery, so was this the same outfit and did they at some point re-paint the fleet in BRS colours or was it a seperate operation? I doubt if there are many of those old boys around now to enlighten us, since most of them were well into their fifties forty years ago. Still, you never know…Best to everybody for 2010. Happy trails!
London Scottish Transport was aquired by The Road Transport Executive in 1949, and became unit B120 then 63B Group
BRS named 63B group ‘London Scottish’
Yup, that makes perfect sense flatman. Need to start putting more water in the whisky 
Cheers.
macdangerous:
Yup, that makes perfect sense flatman. Need to start putting more water in the whisky
Cheers.
A little bit more information for you
