I think you may have got the 'locked up and passed around for '■■■ bit slightly wrong. It might come as a surprise to you but this is the year 2012, women now have the vote and society (or the normal one) do not expect them to be chained to the kitchen sink or spread eagled in bed from the age of 16 waiting for the one who has to be obeyed decides to use her, ie her husband who needs to control her to compensate for his own feeling of insecurity. They now have a mind of their own you know.
Jesus H christ, is this crap still rattling on? Its worse than bloody eastenders! 
I do think CF has to much time on his hands, can you not just be blunt and write a line or 2 
And just like Eastenders It’s not real 
This thread has become the product of a sad old single fella who got knocked back by all the women his own age because of older more experienced blokes who were sweeping them off their feet, couldn’t get a decent Class 1 job driving into Europe and beyond because older more experienced blokes were taking the jobs from right under his nose and to top it all the Establishment and the BBC all conspired together to stop him being invited to TOTP’s so that he could have saved at least one woman, sorry ‘underage girl’ from being molested by a predatory ■■■■■■■■■■ because if any of these girls had been given the opportunity to meet CF and listened to his plans for his and her future they would have run off into the sunset with him without a second thought
Just like an Eastenders storyline it’s not real, it’s fiction
If CF hasn’t already been the recipient of some ‘Big Lectric’ medication now is the time for him to be put on the waiting list, with an urgent attention needed note attached
Keep taking the meds;
Regards
Dave Penn;
Gembo:
Jesus H christ, is this crap still rattling on? Its worse than bloody eastenders!
Don’t be silly, Eastenders not real ? … course it is
raymundo:
I think you may have got the 'locked up and passed around for '■■■ bit slightly wrong. It might come as a surprise to you but this is the year 2012, women now have the vote and society (or the normal one) do not expect them to be chained to the kitchen sink or spread eagled in bed from the age of 16 waiting for the one who has to be obeyed decides to use her, ie her husband who needs to control her to compensate for his own feeling of insecurity. They now have a mind of their own you know.
Maybe I could have put it better.Watched over by her parents or an aunt in the pub at the age of 16 regardless of the age of whoever might be interested which could be anyone from her own age to 50+.Until at the age of 18 when she’ll be ‘sent’ to college/uni and get a career and get seen to on a casual basis by the more the merrier until she’s 30 when she’ll find some mug who’ll marry her after he’s tried out every other bird,including all her sisters,if she’s got any,with the same ideas,with all involved being as happy as pigs in zb. 
They’ve always had a mind of their own.It’s just that out of the few there were,there were/are even fewer with decent morals,and that’s how many of those underaged girls (groupies) ( ‘victims’ ) ended up being got at by an old ■■■■ who wasn’t bothered about the age or gender of who he went for.Instead of getting to know a decent bloke of their own age in a decent relationship and marriage from an early age.
But that view of yours,concerning marriage,maybe explains where you went wrong with those two wives who got dumped so that you could find a younger bird thereby taking three women off the market for three different blokes instead of just the one which is all the chances anyone (should) get.In other words if the cap fits wear it,speak for yourself,and don’t judge every bloke by your own standards. 
davepenn54:
And just like Eastenders
Just like an Eastenders storyline it’s not real, it’s fictionIf CF hasn’t already been the recipient of some ‘Big Lectric’ medication now is the time for him to be put on the waiting list, with an urgent attention needed note attached
Keep taking the meds;
Regards
Dave Penn;
There’s just one inconvenient fact that shoots down your ideas there.Unless the whole Savile case has been a fabrication by those ‘victims’ who were got at on TOTP and at Duncroft by an old pervert then it’s fact not fiction.
So you’re saying in that case that it was right that they were invited onto TOTP etc to take part in an obvious media grooming excercise with no opportunity for them to have just mixed with blokes of their own age,like me if I’d have been invited,onto the programme instead of being put into a situation where they were got at by old perverts like Savile.
All of which seems to be a bit inconsistent with the type of age segregation which takes place today wether on TV in programmes like East Enders or in real life of a type which I don’t remember in any similar type of social situations during the 1970’s.It doesn’t take a genius to work out the reasons for the difference in attitudes which were in large part a product of an obvious media agenda,which was based in very high places,for obvious reasons,at the time.
Which just leaves the question of the reasoning behind the total opposite sublime messaging excercise which is what those soaps are all about.As Ive said the young troops engaged in the war on terror aren’t goint to be very happy if many/any of them were to find themselves in that same situation which I did during the 1970’s maybe to the point where morale would reach the stage where they’d just say zb it why bother might as well join the taliban.Where at least they’d probably be guaranteed an arranged marriage and a wife,instead of coming home to an empty life,on their own because some divorcee,who couldn’t make a go of his one chance in life,decided to look for another chance with a much younger bird.While the same idea,of same age only relationships,being now seen as socially acceptable,explains the difference between Prince Charles’ arranged age gap wedding,which of course no surprise started during the 1970’s, compared to his son’s wedding made in the 21’st century.Now let’s hear those victims and Charles himself tell me I’m wrong (if) he’s got the bottle. 
Is it too early to say Jack Duckworth fingered me or should I wait■■?
Carryfast:
raymundo:
I think you may have got the 'locked up and passed around for '■■■ bit slightly wrong. It might come as a surprise to you but this is the year 2012, women now have the vote and society (or the normal one) do not expect them to be chained to the kitchen sink or spread eagled in bed from the age of 16 waiting for the one who has to be obeyed decides to use her, ie her husband who needs to control her to compensate for his own feeling of insecurity. They now have a mind of their own you know.But that view of yours,concerning marriage,maybe explains where you went wrong with those two wives who got dumped so that you could find a younger bird thereby taking three women off the market for three different blokes instead of just the one which is all the chances anyone (should) get.In other words if the cap fits wear it,speak for yourself,and don’t judge every bloke by your own standards.
Calm down CF, calm down or you’ll be having a coronary, how do you know I went wrong with the first two, for all you and I know at the mo I may have gone wrong with all three, haha, but only time will tell and after nearly 17 years I think I have a pretty good idea of the last. Were the first two dumped or a mutual agreement? You aint got a clue so don’t assume. Did any of your ancestors go around burning alleged witches by the way.
I wish to extend my deepest apologies to the two males who are now sitting with hands down trousers ‘cos I had more than my fair share of the available females, in my younger days if they walked on two legs and sat down to pee then they were fair game an so if that goes against your holier thou than you attitude for pinchin your opportunity for a bit o’ fun then sorry, but bloody tough mate. 
DaiDap:
Is it too early to say Jack Duckworth fingered me or should I wait■■?
Depends on whether you enjoyed it or not 
Carryfast:
While it’s no surprise that your example there doesn’t seem to have resulted in the same ‘issues’ from those like wheelnut etc as it probably would have done if I’d have said that I’d managed to pull a bird of 19 let alone 15-16 like Joe Philpot and that old middle aged divorcee that I lost out to when I was a teenager,did.According to him she should have remained locked up until at least the age of 20 and then put into an arranged marriage with someone of her own age at around 30 after being passed around on the casual ■■■ scene for a while.
There you go, you don’t read anything anyone writes. I said that the girl was lucky to escape from “your” clutches because of some 5 years of previous posts and some radical viewpoints.
For whatever reason, you seem to need to blame everyone else for your misfortunes, from the age of your parents to the age of your first girlfriends husband. It wasn’t your fault you could not get a job when you grew up in the booming years when every man and his dog were looking for drivers to go to Turkey, Italy, Iraq and Iran.
I too think you are on some kind of wind up and believe the secret of good comedy is T …iming. But after all this time I don’t think your punchline will work.
As my passing thought for this evening, even Anders Brevik thought he was right! 
raymundo:
Carryfast:
raymundo:
I think you may have got the 'locked up and passed around for '■■■ bit slightly wrong. It might come as a surprise to you but this is the year 2012, women now have the vote and society (or the normal one) do not expect them to be chained to the kitchen sink or spread eagled in bed from the age of 16 waiting for the one who has to be obeyed decides to use her, ie her husband who needs to control her to compensate for his own feeling of insecurity. They now have a mind of their own you know.But that view of yours,concerning marriage,maybe explains where you went wrong with those two wives who got dumped so that you could find a younger bird thereby taking three women off the market for three different blokes instead of just the one which is all the chances anyone (should) get.In other words if the cap fits wear it,speak for yourself,and don’t judge every bloke by your own standards.
Calm down CF, calm down or you’ll be having a coronary, how do you know I went wrong with the first two, for all you and I know at the mo I may have gone wrong with all three, haha, but only time will tell and after nearly 17 years I think I have a pretty good idea of the last. Were the first two dumped or a mutual agreement? You aint got a clue so don’t assume. Did any of your ancestors go around burning alleged witches by the way.
I wish to extend my deepest apologies to the two males who are now sitting with hands down trousers ‘cos I had more than my fair share of the available females, in my younger days if they walked on two legs and sat down to pee then they were fair game an so if that goes against your holier thou than you attitude for pinchin your opportunity for a bit o’ fun then sorry, but bloody tough mate.
If it’s ok for you to assume,in the case of how you think I’d treat any girl,which I would have thought would be obvious by now and it ain’t in any way the type of description which you ( and wheelnut ) have got me down as looking for,then it’s ok for me to do some assuming in your case although I did say if the cap fits wear it.
If it’s all about fair game from your point of view then obviously marriage isn’t an option considering that the idea of marriage is to take one off the market and then settle down with her.
If there’s one good thing about the societal backlash,against age gap relationships,in recent years,it’s that it will stop that type of issue which I lost out to and those with the type of views who think it’s ok for them to take advantage of the idea of marriage when it suits them when taking a woman off the market by marrying her and not when it doesn’t by keeping their options open to look for someone better and then dump their ex wife for a newer model. Although the idea will obviously remove any chance that I might have had. 
In which case,from my point of view,it would have been much better to just have laws which just stop married/divorced blokes from being able to date or remarry with young single girls while age doesn’t matter in that case so long as the laws related to the age of consent are complied with.
However with hindsight I should have looked at it the way you and others obviously do in that any bird was/is fair game including spoken for/married ones in which case there was one who I’d have preferred,if I could have pulled her,to the one who I wanted with the added advantage that she’d have been 6 years younger than me.
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
While it’s no surprise that your example there doesn’t seem to have resulted in the same ‘issues’ from those like wheelnut etc as it probably would have done if I’d have said that I’d managed to pull a bird of 19 let alone 15-16 like Joe Philpot and that old middle aged divorcee that I lost out to when I was a teenager,did.According to him she should have remained locked up until at least the age of 20 and then put into an arranged marriage with someone of her own age at around 30 after being passed around on the casual ■■■ scene for a while.There you go, you don’t read anything anyone writes. I said that the girl was lucky to escape from “your” clutches because of some 5 years of previous posts and some radical viewpoints.
For whatever reason, you seem to need to blame everyone else for your misfortunes, from the age of your parents to the age of your first girlfriends husband. It wasn’t your fault you could not get a job when you grew up in the booming years when every man and his dog were looking for drivers to go to Turkey, Italy, Iraq and Iran.
I too think you are on some kind of wind up and believe the secret of good comedy is T …iming. But after all this time I don’t think your punchline will work.
As my passing thought for this evening, even Anders Brevik thought he was right!
As I said you’ve got some personal issues related to anything which I say which you then seem to apply regardless of the discussion or points which I’ve made.
Exactly what ‘radical’ viewpoints are you on about 
considering that,to my knowledge,compared to most of the generation which that girl in question married into (my dad’s generation in this case although I wouldn’t be surprised if,with your views on age gap relationships,you wouldn’t have actually got your head round that bit yet) that I know of and who I grew up with during the 1970’s mine are certainly no different.But how the zb,in that case,would anyone who would have happily wiped out a whole regiment of Hitler’s army given the right weapons have any connection whatsoever,in your zb’d up view,with the ideas of Brevik 
.You really are one mixed up individual who doesn’t seem able to comprehend much of what anyone with a bit of intelligence is actually saying to you.
For someone who grew up during that time you seem to have swallowed a load of the modern day pc bs over the years to the point now where anyone who still lives by the ideas of those times seems incomprehensible to you.Trust me the girl in question would be able to understand my outlook and views in just the same way as those of the (much) older bloke of my dad’s age who she actually chose to be with and marry.
You’re going to have to look a bit further than the bonkers idea that I’m a British Brevik.Try brainwashed by the 1970’s media grooming excercise to get Charles fixed up with the mid teens Diana and you’d then probably be a lot closer to the truth.In just the same way that Savile and co were able to get their hands on loads of girls of around the same age.
Geoff.
You are the one who is trying to convince us that BBC’s Eastenders is real and that the programme makers were somehow instrumental in the heir to the throne marrying one of Savile’s 15 year old cast offs.
Me. I am just happy living up North with ma whippets and pigeons
Wheel Nut:
Geoff.
You are the one who is trying to convince us that BBC’s Eastenders is real and that the programme makers were somehow instrumental in the heir to the throne marrying one of Savile’s 15 year old cast offs.Me. I am just happy living up North with ma whippets and pigeons
The difference between those modern day East Enders storylines,which all conform to the modern day idea,of age gap relationships being socially unnacceptable,while at the same time pushing the agenda of same ■■■ marriage and child adoption by same ■■■ couples,while during the 1970’s birds of 14 and 15 were being groped and snogged on camera and who knows what else backstage on TOTP etc by blokes like Savile and ‘others’,is as real as it gets.
It doesn’t take a genius to understand that the differences between both agendas have their roots in the high places of the establishment which control the BBC.
As for Northern soaps I think they were a bit outdated when they put this story in Coronation Street and no surprise that in the stroyline the teacher wasn’t allowed to get the girl and it resulted in a public backlash in real life.
youtube.com/watch?v=-9nabhFb … re=related
No surprise either that no one has tried anything similar involving one of the younger birds like Abi being with someone of that age let alone mine in East Enders since regardless of wether they are playing the part of a bird over 18 or under 18 and no surprise as to the reasons why,compared to how things were (would have been) in the 1970’s and it doesn’t take a genius to understand the reasons why.
It was actually a case of loads of birds being used by the BBC,during the 1970’s,for a mass media public softening up excercise and grooming excercise,whith the obvious intention of affecting the mid teens Diana Spencer’s ideas,concerning going for an older bloke,but it also did the same to many of the other girls of around her age too.No surprise either as to the difference between public reaction to that situation during the 1970’s compared to today.Which is why no one complained about what was going on at the BBC on camera on programmes like TOTP during the 1970’s,or about that middle aged bloke who I lost out to with that mid teens girl of my own age.While the Royal Wedding between Charles and Diana resulted in public celebrations.
But Joe Philpot was called a ■■■■■■■■■■.
There’s no need to convince anyone because it’s simply an inconvenient truth which the establishment,who were behind the whole thing,at least in those cases involving those victims related to the events at the BBC on programmes like TOTP and at Duncroft,wouldn’t want to believe.Maybe those victims might think otherwise though while the establishment obviously won’t ever admit to such a scenario having taken place even though the evidence is there on camera and off camera going by the statements of those who were involved.
As for me if only I could have been a teacher in that same scenario in that Coronation Street storyline in real life.As the comments on the video say she’d have been worth ditching the job for.
So we now know abi from eastenders is in carryfasts ■■■■ bank. Sharon’s in mine even though she might be past it in carryfasts eyes and she is older than me. Can’t resist a buxom blonde.
Lady Diana wanted Prince Charles to be her ever loving husband.She was sadly let down.Apart from him who else would crawl over a beautiful young woman to get a go on Camilla ,the wife of a family friend?The Middleton family are the best thing to have happened to the Royal Family IMO.just trying to open up this debate as its getting repetitive.
Andy Kershaw has just summarised the early 60’s for me very succinctly.
How the hell did our grandparents procreate to Ronnie Carroll?
One last passing shot at Geoffrey.
Get out of the house, stop believing everything you see on TV soaps, nip down to the newsagent and grab a few magazines from the top shelf
kr79:
So we now know abi from eastenders is in carryfasts [zb] bank. Sharon’s in mine even though she might be past it in carryfasts eyes and she is older than me. Can’t resist a buxom blonde.
Don’t forget Lucy and Lauren too. 
While old and buxom I’ll have Tanya.
Wheel Nut:
Andy Kershaw has just summarised the early 60’s for me very succinctly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSg37hNhMe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV62UcqbcQA
How the hell did our grandparents procreate to Ronnie Carroll?
One last passing shot at Geoffrey.
Get out of the house, stop believing everything you see on TV soaps, nip down to the newsagent and grab a few magazines from the top shelf
Our ‘Grandparents’ early 1960’s . Mine were into this in their day and both my Grandmothers were old widows in 1960.
youtube.com/watch?v=2szcDyn5 … re=related
youtube.com/watch?v=6pBqDKqR … re=related
I think that zb that I lost out to and Joe Philpot and at least one other middle aged divorcee I know of were going by this not those although it’s obvious that didn’t apply in the case of Savile.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q7sgdR9Oxs8
But mags on the top shelf aren’t what they were now that they won’t allow under 18’s doing full on photo shoots in them any more.Luckily I’ve still got one or two from those days still in the loft somewhere.