FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast - your looking at it in a crude way with regards to me “trying out everyone’s daughters” and goading
Common rail and Raymundo into what would they prefer for their daughters :s
If two people are physically attracted to each other, why shouldn’t they have a ■■■■■■ relationship before marriage or even when neither of the two has any intentions of marriage yet.
I think I see marriage as a bigger deal than you do, you come across as someone who just wants to slap a ring on the finger of the first 16 year old (or younger) virgin you meet regardless of what she actually wants and regardless of love and interests and understandings. God forbid that did actually happen, you would have her chained to the kitchen and wouldn’t let her go out socialising and clubbing with her mates.
In addition to your I’m 18, you’re 18 let’s get married post, this one is so true. I think what Geoff was actually looking for was the perfect match as in same age, white and breathing.
Once round the block and down the aisle in the family car, then a lifelong ordeal of looking after him and his mother.
There are girls now and there were many girls then who would consider you gay or a creep if you didn’t try a fumble or a rumble at the bus stop, if you left it for 5 years, they would have been gone well over 4 years ago…
Wheel Nut:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast - your looking at it in a crude way with regards to me “trying out everyone’s daughters” and goading
Common rail and Raymundo into what would they prefer for their daughters :s
If two people are physically attracted to each other, why shouldn’t they have a ■■■■■■ relationship before marriage or even when neither of the two has any intentions of marriage yet.
I think I see marriage as a bigger deal than you do, you come across as someone who just wants to slap a ring on the finger of the first 16 year old (or younger) virgin you meet regardless of what she actually wants and regardless of love and interests and understandings. God forbid that did actually happen, you would have her chained to the kitchen and wouldn’t let her go out socialising and clubbing with her mates.
In addition to your I’m 18, you’re 18 let’s get married post, this one is so true. I think what Geoff was actually looking for was the perfect match as in same age, white and breathing.
Once round the block and down the aisle in the family car, then a lifelong ordeal of looking after him and his mother.
There are girls now and there were many girls then who would consider you gay or a creep if you didn’t try a fumble or a rumble at the bus stop, if you left it for 5 years, they would have been gone well over 4 years ago…
How the zb does the issue of just looking for a young wife to settle down with early in life,as opposed to multiple casual ‘relationships’,with loads of different birds,(even if they’d have been there in large numbers which,at least in the world I knew,they weren’t anyway) through the teenaged and 20’s years suddenly then get translated,in your world,into all that bs.
If you’d have read all my posts you’d have seen that I’ve been saying that I’d be looking to give her (a lot) more than a fumble or a rumble at the bus stop and certainly (a lot) sooner than 5 years from meeting her just as that bloke who pulled that bird of my own age did and Joe Philpot did and no complaints from those girls about having to look after anyone except the kids that resulted from those relationships. 
While I think fumbling,rumbling,creeps and perverts all seems to fit in with Savile’s ideas on how to treat women compared to mine and ironically it was those girls who had those ideas,as opposed to mine,that found exactly that on TOTP etc with him and obviously ‘others’. 
I’m wondering if your above post was made under the influence after a visit to the pub.
Carryfast:
If you’d have read all my posts you’d have seen that I’ve been saying that I’d be looking to give her (a lot) more than a fumble or a rumble at the bus stop and certainly (a lot) sooner than 5 years from meeting her just as that bloke who pulled that bird of my own age did and Joe Philpot did and no complaints from those girls about having to look after anyone except the kids that resulted from those relationships.
I’m wondering if your above post was made under the influence after a visit to the pub.
If I had read all your posts I am afraid I would need something much stronger than the pub can supply, maybe you need to revisit some of the other posts on how to find and keep a lady 
Your lady of choice was either pulled from your arms kicking and screaming, or she left thinking she may have had a lucky escape from almost 40 years of purgatory. 
You often mention luck, maybe she is counting her blessings even today!
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast - your looking at it in a crude way with regards to me “trying out everyone’s daughters” and goading
Common rail and Raymundo into what would they prefer for their daughters :s
If two people are physically attracted to each other, why shouldn’t they have a ■■■■■■ relationship before marriage or even when neither of the two has any intentions of marriage yet.
I think I see marriage as a bigger deal than you do, you come across as someone who just wants to slap a ring on the finger of the first 16 year old (or younger) virgin you meet regardless of what she actually wants and regardless of love and interests and understandings. God forbid that did actually happen, you would have her chained to the kitchen and wouldn’t let her go out socialising and clubbing with her mates.
No it just comes down to the simple question of who got the better deal and better relationship/marriage in life.Nicola Philpot or her fellow Essex girl who was unlucky enough to only know a life in which she was obviously one of many who ‘had the granny smashed out of her’ by you and others in the casual ■■■ scene,or for that matter any of those teenaged girls on TOTP and at Duncroft who are the subject of the Savile and others file.
As for just slapping a ring on a girl’s finger no I think you’ve missed the bit out where I said that I’d need to make sure that I loved the girl and she loved me first which is what an engagement ring,not a wedding ring,is all about.However that doesn’t take years of ‘living together’ to find out and it also doesn’t mean going through loads,based on the flawed idea,that you’ll only know the right one after shagging loads of wrong ones,on a casual no string basis.While contrary to your view it’s that bs casual ■■■ scene that you’re so keen to defend that,when mixed with the groupy culture of the 1970’s,obviously put too many of those 1970’s girls in harm’s way.While at the same time taking them off the menu for blokes who think like me.
As for the ‘clubbing’ scene I think it all comes down to the same thing in the end and the best girls who make the best marriage material know that the ‘clubbing’ scene is all about them looking for a husband amongst the decent blokes who are looking to settle down with a good wife sooner rather than later.While obviously in too many cases these days it’s more likely to be a case of loads of career girls looking for a casual bang with as many blokes as they can find who are looking for the same thing for as long as possible into their 20’s.
Which is,in general,what seperates the ‘clubbing’ scene and the girls in Italy from their British equivalent.It’s just a shame that by the 1980’s I was too old,even in my 20’s,let alone middle age,and let alone being in the wrong ethnic group,to be able to pull one of the (many),average young single Italian girls,who were looking for a husband,not a casual shag,at the average Italian venue.That’s because just as was/is the case here the best girls are usually all spoken for by their 20’s although the Italian scene often involved/s the issue of arranged marriages.Which ironically is something like what Charles having met Diana Spencer at a venue during the mid- late 1970’s would have been like with the difference in that case that she’d have been reserved for a bloke of her closer to her own age like me instead of an old pushing 30’s bloke like him.
Ok then if we are getting crude… What fanny is going to be more ruined? one that has a ■■■■ up it once a month from a different bloke or one that has it every day from the age of 16 when she becomes a wife?
Your crazy man, haven’t you thought that people actually enjoy drinking and dancing and having a laugh with their mates at a club or rave? I’ll have you know I’m a phenomenal dancer but just because I go out it doesn’t mean I’m going to look for a wife 
Jesus man.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast - your looking at it in a crude way with regards to me “trying out everyone’s daughters” and goading
Common rail and Raymundo into what would they prefer for their daughters :s
If two people are physically attracted to each other, why shouldn’t they have a ■■■■■■ relationship before marriage or even when neither of the two has any intentions of marriage yet.
I think I see marriage as a bigger deal than you do, you come across as someone who just wants to slap a ring on the finger of the first 16 year old (or younger) virgin you meet regardless of what she actually wants and regardless of love and interests and understandings. God forbid that did actually happen, you would have her chained to the kitchen and wouldn’t let her go out socialising and clubbing with her mates.
No it just comes down to the simple question of who got the better deal and better relationship/marriage in life.Nicola Philpot or her fellow Essex girl who was unlucky enough to only know a life in which she was obviously one of many who ‘had the granny smashed out of her’ by you and others in the casual ■■■ scene,or for that matter any of those teenaged girls on TOTP and at Duncroft who are the subject of the Savile and others file.
As for just slapping a ring on a girl’s finger no I think you’ve missed the bit out where I said that I’d need to make sure that I loved the girl and she loved me first which is what an engagement ring,not a wedding ring,is all about.However that doesn’t take years of ‘living together’ to find out and it also doesn’t mean going through loads,based on the flawed idea,that you’ll only know the right one after shagging loads of wrong ones,on a casual no string basis.While contrary to your view it’s that bs casual ■■■ scene that you’re so keen to defend that,when mixed with the groupy culture of the 1970’s,obviously put too many of those 1970’s girls in harm’s way.While at the same time taking them off the menu for blokes who think like me.
As for the ‘clubbing’ scene I think it all comes down to the same thing in the end and the best girls who make the best marriage material know that the ‘clubbing’ scene is all about them looking for a husband amongst the decent blokes who are looking to settle down with a good wife sooner rather than later.While obviously in too many cases these days it’s more likely to be a case of loads of career girls looking for a casual bang with as many blokes as they can find who are looking for the same thing for as long as possible into their 20’s.
Which is,in general,what seperates the ‘clubbing’ scene and the girls in Italy from their British equivalent.It’s just a shame that by the 1980’s I was too old,even in my 20’s,let alone middle age,and let alone being in the wrong ethnic group,to be able to pull one of the (many),average young single Italian girls,who were looking for a husband,not a casual shag,at the average Italian venue.That’s because just as was/is the case here the best girls are usually all spoken for by their 20’s although the Italian scene often involved/s the issue of arranged marriages.Which ironically is something like what Charles having met Diana Spencer at a venue during the mid- late 1970’s would have been like with the difference in that case that she’d have been reserved for a bloke of her closer to her own age like me instead of an old pushing 30’s bloke like him.
Ok then if we are getting crude… What fanny is going to be more ruined? one that has a ■■■■ up it once a month from a different bloke or one that has it every day from the age of 16 when she becomes a wife?
Your crazy man, haven’t you thought that people actually enjoy drinking and dancing and having a laugh with their mates at a club or rave? I’ll have you know I’m a phenomenal dancer but just because I go out it doesn’t mean I’m going to look for a wife Jesus man.
I think the maths might be a bit suspect there by uderestimating the action which the bird on the casual scene is getting compared to overestimating the action that the one who’s married gets over a lifetime unless she’s married to some sort of superhuman husband.
In the case of the ones who Savile got it’s anyone’s guess what actually happened to them but it’s no surprise that none of them ended up in the family way.
But seriously I was thinking more about the girl’s self respect and emotional feelings concerning all those lost years when she could have had and probably deserved something better.Especially when she looks back with hindsight at the age of 30 +.
So,with the exception of the ‘issues’,related to the deviant ‘preferences’ of perverts like Savile,the casual ■■■ scene of today isn’t so very different what happened to a lot of the those groupy ‘victims’ of the 1970’s.
But there’s actually no reason why a couple aren’t still able to have a good time and go partying etc on a monogamous basis and as I remember it the object of going out partying when I was young and even now still being single was/is trying to find exactly that.It’s just a shame that when it wasn’t the likes of old perverts like Savile etc standing more chance,of pullling too many of the available teenaged birds of my own age at the time,it was at least one too many middle aged divorcees instead. 
While obviously societal attitudes to the age thing have swung back in the opposite direction after the establishment got what it wanted from Diana Spencer.
Which just leaves the question mark over the modern day idea of a same age Royal wedding between a couple heading into their 30’s.
I was a Typical jack the lad when I was young I was looking to get laid every weekend we went out. This went on for many years but it did I must admit find me a girl I stayed with for 4 years from the age of 18. I often wonder if because we had ■■■ the day after we met weather it was the reason we never lasted.
But back on subject like the guy said above, it was the same in my day if you didn’t go out and try and pull a girl you was assumed to be gay (and no one wanted to be called a ■■■■)
keebs26uk:
I was a Typical jack the lad when I was young I was looking to get laid every weekend we went out. This went on for many years but it did I must admit find me a girl I stayed with for 4 years from the age of 18. I often wonder if because we had ■■■ the day after we met weather it was the reason we never lasted.
But back on subject like the guy said above, it was the same in my day if you didn’t go out and try and pull a girl you was assumed to be gay (and no one wanted to be called a ■■■■)
There’s no argument that the object of the excercise is to try and pull ‘a girl’.But it’s a bit difficult to pull girls who don’t exist and when too many of the few who do prefer to act like unpaid hookers with blokes like Savile and assorted pop ‘stars’ like Gary Glitter at worse or marry middle aged divorcees when they are 18 at best.
While ‘a girl’ obviously means the search for one nice one not just loads of wrong ones (like 1970’s groupies for example ) and it’s all about what you do with her when you’ve been lucky enough to pull her.
However ironically for those groupy type it was the idea of the casual scene,as opposed to looking for something serious with a decent bloke,that got a lot of those groupy type birds into the hands of Savile and ‘others’ and on the balance of probablities he was a ■■■■ with some added issues related to not being all that bothered about the age or gender of those who he went for either.
None of which was helped by the fact that the BBC was obviously in the hands of a bunch of paedophiles with a similar outlook to Savile’s.Who’d been given carte blanche,by the establishment,to set up a media mass grooming excercise on camera, obviously with a few perks for themselves off camera thrown in.Which obviously meant that decent blokes like me weren’t even there on the show for the likes of Coleen Nolan etc etc to have a chat and a dance with even if they’d have preferred someone of their own age to have done that with instead of being got at by old zb’s like Savile and ‘others’,on and off camera,instead.
Dear Mr Edmonds, give me £100k or I’ll say you and Saville spitroasted me backstage on TOTPs…
…Deal or or no deal?
Muckaway:
Dear Mr Edmonds, give me £100k or I’ll say you and Saville spitroasted me backstage on TOTPs…
…Deal or or no deal?
youtube.com/watch?v=pSv4vqXwuiQ
After being forced against her will into having a snog first on camera on stage.
No doubt it all helped in convincing Diana that Charles was the right bloke for her though and probably more than a few other 15-16 year old birds that a middle aged divorcee would be a better bet than a bloke of their own age at the time.
Every little girls dream from about 3 years old is to marry a charming prince, they also know that they are going to come across a few frogs and old toads in their quest.
Some of them will wait for the right man risking being left on the shelf, others will try as many toadstools as they can
A Spinster is never as attractive as a Bachelor, but an eligible Bachelor still risks being labelled as gay
Wheel Nut:
Every little girls dream from about 3 years old is to marry a charming prince, they also know that they are going to come across a few frogs and old toads in their quest.
Some of them will wait for the right man risking being left on the shelf, others will try as many toadstools as they can
A Spinster is never as attractive as a Bachelor, but an eligible Bachelor still risks being labelled as gay
Which probably explains how a married/divorced bloke like the one who I lost out to,Joe Philpot or Jeremy Forrest has more chance of pulling an attractive 15-16 year old ‘spinster’ like Nicola Philpot or Megan Stammers than an eligible bachelor like me has/had at any age.
Although eligible ‘bachelors’ like Charles or Savile are/were obviously more in demand by those girls who (you seem to think) were looking for prince charming during the 1970’s than an eligible bachelor like me was so I couldn’t win from day 1 and now it’s all obviously about the issue of age added to all the others.
Which seems to show that being an old perverted ■■■■ like Savile or being Prince Charles,who obviously preferred an old nag to a teenaged virgin,was the way to go in the 1970’s if you were single and wanted to pull many of the young teenaged birds of my own age at the time.
That’s unless those birds weren’t looking for an old married/divorced bloke instead.Obviously the Megan Stammers case seems to show that there are still a few out there who’ve got the same view as those ones had,now that Savile has got all older single blokes tarred with the same brush.
At 15 they are not spinsters you crackpot.
Just for once, consider you are wrong, your first “lucky” girlfriend should consider herself so, because she managed to avoid your desperate grasps!
Wheel Nut:
At 15 they are not spinsters you crackpot.
Just for once, consider you are wrong, your first “lucky” girlfriend should consider herself so, because she managed to avoid your desperate grasps!
It was a joke.
Although you’re still contradicting your own zb’d up argument that it’s wrong for middle aged blokes to go for 15-16 year old birds in that case if she was as lucky as you seem to think she was.
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
At 15 they are not spinsters you crackpot.
Just for once, consider you are wrong, your first “lucky” girlfriend should consider herself so, because she managed to avoid your desperate grasps!
It was a joke.
Although you’re still contradicting your own zb’d up argument that it’s wrong for middle aged blokes to go for 15-16 year old birds in that case if she was as lucky as you seem to think she was.
No I am actually saying that this one particular girl probably had a lucky escape, from you!
There is no big instruction manual that says; It must be done like this! Different people have different ideas and you constantly harping on about Jeremy Whatisface and the Philpotts is not the normal path of boy meets girl, they fall in love and become soulmates.
Eastenders is not real, neither is a Royal wedding for most of us.
And you are not a Bachelor, eligible or not because a bachelor lives independently of his mum
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
At 15 they are not spinsters you crackpot.
Just for once, consider you are wrong, your first “lucky” girlfriend should consider herself so, because she managed to avoid your desperate grasps!
It was a joke.
Although you’re still contradicting your own zb’d up argument that it’s wrong for middle aged blokes to go for 15-16 year old birds in that case if she was as lucky as you seem to think she was.
No I am actually saying that this one particular girl probably had a lucky escape, from you!
There is no big instruction manual that says; It must be done like this! Different people have different ideas and you constantly harping on about Jeremy Whatisface and the Philpotts is not the normal path of boy meets girl, they fall in love and become soulmates.
Eastenders is not real, neither is a Royal wedding for most of us.
And you are not a Bachelor, eligible or not because a bachelor lives independently of his mum
What a load of total and complete bollox.
Either you’re saying it’s right for a middle aged bloke to go for a mid teens girl or you’re saying it’s wrong.Just like loads of others you seem to be moving the goal posts around on a double standards basis all because of some bs view of me peronally in which I’m classed by you as an unter mensch then or now regardless of the age thing.
As for the idea of a being a bachelor,only being classed as a bachelor if he doesn’t live with his mum,that’s news to my mum who always thought that she’d married a single never married bachelor,who was living with his mum both before and just as they both were after their marriage.Because,as I’ve said,buying a place has never been cheap down here.
As for me I couldn’t care less.The fact is if it was good enough for Prince Charles and that bloke who I lost out to then it’s good enough for me to still be looking for a bird of whatever age so long as it’s legal and no laws get broken and if she’d prefer a married/divorced bloke,with a pokey flat and divorce payments to make,instead of me,then she’s as stupid as many of those so called ‘victims’,who preferred a ■■■■■ or more with Savile etc,either on camera or backstage on TOTP instead of saying that they only want to mix with blokes of their own age,invited onto the show on around a 1 to 1 basis perferably with a few spare birds on top.
I reckon you’re having a laugh.
If you see any pictures of Camilla in her younger days she’s looks quite tasty, only in her later years did she begin to look like Red Rum. Bonnie price charlie might have been boning her since she was 15/16 with the encouragement and approval of the establishment, you never know, as one contributor on this thread has irrefutable evidence of that.
As from tomorrow when I go home after being away for two months I am going to be ‘a kept man’ by a much younger wife, who I as a dirty ole divorced (twice) man seduced her when she was 19. I must be in line for eternal damnation 
raymundo:
If you see any pictures of Camilla in her younger days she’s looks quite tasty, only in her later years did she begin to look like Red Rum. Bonnie price charlie might have been boning her since she was 15/16 with the encouragement and approval of the establishment, you never know, as one contributor on this thread has irrefutable evidence of that.
As from tomorrow when I go home after being away for two months I am going to be ‘a kept man’ by a much younger wife, who I as a dirty ole divorced (twice) man seduced her when she was 19. I must be in line for eternal damnation
If the establishment didn’t have the bottle to allow him to go for Di when he was first ‘supposed’ to have met her at 15, without first setting up a media softening up excercise,for both her benefit and the public’s,by a load of perverts at the BBC,you can bet that they wouldn’t have had the bottle to let him do the same with Camilla either.
As for divorcees standing more chance,in British society,of pulling young single birds,than single blokes have,nothing new there.Nothing new about the hypocricy of those same married/divorced blokes,often seeming to think,that they’ve got more right,to those girls,than I have,either.
While it’s no surprise that your example there doesn’t seem to have resulted in the same ‘issues’ from those like wheelnut etc as it probably would have done if I’d have said that I’d managed to pull a bird of 19 let alone 15-16 like Joe Philpot and that old middle aged divorcee that I lost out to when I was a teenager,did.According to him she should have remained locked up until at least the age of 20 and then put into an arranged marriage with someone of her own age at around 30 after being passed around on the casual ■■■ scene for a while.
assuming that the effects of the night before’s visit to the pub must have worn off by now.