Wheel Nut:
I am 54, apparently the same age as CF. Tonight I was in the pub with a few friends, the eldest is 63, the youngest girl was 16, we had banter, we had fun, we all commented on her arse, and she understood it was banter. There is not one of us who would take advantage, even if it was offered on a plate. It is normal behaviour, however if her mum or dad had have been in the pub, no one would have even dare spoken to her.Where were the parents when these girls were getting shafted by JS and his friends? Stood outside the dressing room door listening in?
The girl tonight was totally relaxed and safe, and her Auntie was sat with us, she owns the pub, she runs the bar and keeps a tight ship. I was brought up with adults from a very young age, my friends at 9 were my fathers customers who were between 18 and 70. I wasn’t abused, because I knew what it was about. I was taken to race meetings at 10 years old and still keep in touch with those friends. Should I suddenly report that one of them touched my knee when I was 8. They cannot reply when they are scattered ashes or worm fodder.
In Carryfasts vast “experience” this is wrong, however the 16 year old was more impressed with a couple of older blokes discussing American politics than with two 18 year old giggling bucks across the room.
No mention of the BBC, The Royal Family, Black Royals or Virgin Princesses.
She will grow up to be a wise girl and will certainly meet someone closer to her own age, as is normal for the majority of the population, not at 16 or 18, but maybe in her mid 20’s. That is what experience is about, not some brainwashed idea from the Victorian morality books.
I don’t get the connection .
Unless you’ve actually been in the position,of actually experiencing the situation,of what happens when a girl of that age, goes against everything that you ‘think’ you know,about the age thing,as it applies in the case of some girls,not others, you really are just guessing.
The fact is you’re talking about a modern day teenaged girl in a modern day setting in which the age issue has been brainwashed into them that all older single blokes looking for a younger woman are creeps just like Savile regardless.But the bit I don’t get is where were you in the early 1970’s because if you think that view which you’ve written there applied back then to many of the few girls we actually had then you either weren’t there or you slept through it all.
Suggest you get yourself back to the real world again by checking out some more of those old TOTP episodes on youtube when it was pop stars or even ordinary blokes of Gary Glitter’s age and Savile’s age,who were in more demand,with too many of the few girls we had who were 14-15 let alone 16,than blokes of their own age ever were.
Although having said that there’s a fine line between what is effectively an arranged marriage based on what others feel is right for her and giving her the freedom at 16,which is the relevant age not 25,at which she should be left alone to make her own way and decisions.Not sitting there with her chaperone looking over her shoulder considering that this isn’t,as you say,the Victorian era.Which may be why those 18 year olds were laughing.Although they obviously wouldn’t have needed to be bothered about any competition from any older blokes.Unlike things were during the early 1970’s for me.Where you were is anyone’s guess.