Jimmy Savile

FarnboroughBoy11:

Carryfast:

FarnboroughBoy11:
Humans arnt supposed to be monogamous, males certainly arnt. Women should be though :slight_smile:
Why don’t you agree on mixing race relationships?

That’s the idea of marriage zb’d then in your world. :smiling_imp:

On the interracial marriage issue I’d reverse the question.The fact is it’s all about pc integration and keeping the immigrant groups happy not multiculturalism.No surprise that the biggest supporters of the idea,of interracial relationships,are the Afro ethnic groups who prefer our girls to their own for the simple reason that ours are generally (a lot) better looking than their own.Which,as I’ve said,explains that massive change in outlooks which took place in the early 1970’s clubbing scene among ‘certain’ groups who’d been happy to mix with the Afro groups ‘until’ they realised the ‘real’ reason why many of the ethnic Afro blokes were so keen to get involved with the indigenous population instead of keeping to their own.

The same issue is probably the main reason for the ethnic strife which applied throughout the Southern US States where the ethnic european population has always understood the difference between multiculturalism compared to integration.To put it simply there’s nothing good about the idea of wiping out our own ethnic group on the basis of some zb’d up socialist ideal of turning the world into one single ethnic group especially when that idea also means that we have to settle for an ethnic African (or Asian) wife so the ethnic African blokes can get a better looking ethnic European one.

While no surprise that,as I’ve said,from experience,the Italians are as keen as any Southern US States redneck,on the idea of keeping the different ethnic groups different (multiculturalism),as opposed to the idea of ‘integration’,when it comes to any other ethnic group (such as the British) except their own,going for a good looking Italian bird in the average Italian venue. :bulb:
That’s even before the age thing is taken into account. :open_mouth:

While it was no surprise that with all the bs about ‘integration’ being supposedly good for the working class the Royals didn’t seem to be that keen on finding an African or Asian wife for Prince Charles. :open_mouth: :smiling_imp: So just typical British hypocricy.

You sound to me like a typical product of the modern generations that have swallowed all the pc brainwashing,concerning the acceptance of contiinuing integration,within the working classes,so that the rich zb’s can keep their cheap labour scam going without too many riots in Brixton or Croydon.Although I doubt that the Polish will be as keen on the idea of integration between the Slav girls and the Afro Carribean groups in the long term. :smiling_imp: :bulb:

Not at all because when and if I ever get married I wouldn’t cheat on her.

What a load of crap, again your looking into something so much deeper than what it actually is.
I personally think mixed race birds are generally all better looking that white girls, if you way it up there are more ugly white birds than ugly mixed race birds. Skin, teeth, eyes, arse and ■■■■■ are more likely to be better on a mixed race bird between any mixed races white/black, white/Asian, black/Asian than that just from a white/white combination.

And I’m sure your theory about Latinas will be [zb] along the line somewhere, they have definitely got a bit of Afro in them somewhere from way back… And guess how, because people mixing their ethnicity together.

Your so wrong on many levels, I haven’t been fed anything at all. I’ve got black mates who go out and shag white girls as well as black girls, and the same goes with me. I can appreciate a good looking attractive human being regardless.

:open_mouth:

If,in your view,humans aren’t supposed to be monogamous,then how do you reach the conclusion that you would ever want to get married being that the two statements contradict each other :question: .

Make your mind up you’re saying it’s all about mixed race birds (in your view) looking a lot better than ethnic euro ones :open_mouth: but you’re also saying that you think the Afro girls are just as attractive to you and your Afro mates as our own girls are. :open_mouth: :confused:

As for the idea of good looking mixed race girls.I think that’s actually more a case of the ethnic european genes making Afro birds (slightly) better looking than they would have been if the two different ethnic groups were kept seperate not vice versa.The Afro genetic make up has nothing to offer in return.Which is a bit like the issue of adding loads of Afro Carribean blokes looking for our own birds (because the fact is ethnic euro girls generally look a lot better than Afro ones simples) to the numbers problem which we already had,of there not being enough of our own girls for ourselves,during the early 1970’s. :bulb:

However ‘if’ you’re right there would never have been anything like the change in attitudes to integration which took place between the different ethnic social groups in the early 1970’s.Let alone the Southern US States over the years.Because all the women here and in the Southern States would have been turned into Italian Latin type ones by ‘integration’ and there would have been enough of them for everyone. :open_mouth: :laughing:

The fact that ethnic British blokes have now been brainwashed into treating their own women not much differently to how 1970’s pop stars treated groupies as unpaid hookers and saying that they are generally uglier than mixed race girls let alone the fact that they seem just as happy with going for an ethnic Afro girl as their own says it all.

No surprise who most ethnic Brit or Afro blokes would have preferred given the choice between a bird who looked like Agnetha Faltskog or one who looked like Dionne Warwick during the 1960’s/1970’s.But contrary to your ideas I can’t believe that anything has really changed in that regard.Certainly not going by the demands,by the expanding ethnic Afro Carribean groups,for our own girls in parts of what are now the edges of ‘Greater London’/North Surrey which weren’t subject to those demands previously,like other areas in London were during the early 1970’s. :open_mouth: :smiling_imp:

youtube.com/watch?v=za05HBtGsgU

youtube.com/watch?v=AO073fekFfA

Animals don’t get married, they settle down with the first one they meet & who will stand.

Monogamous only means having one partner and never taking another even if she dies

you`re ■■■■■■ up…carryfast.

p.s why have nearly all your posts been edited :question:

Wheel Nut:
Animals don’t get married, they settle down with the first one they meet & who will stand.

Monogamous only means having one partner and never taking another even if she dies

Most animals aren’t monogamous like humans although Swans are one example.There’s plenty of examples out there of marriages which lasted a lifetime and in which either partner has been made a widow or widower and never wanted anyone else after that.Both my Grandparents and parents and at least one other example in the family being four cases I know of.In the case of my grandparents both widows lived on their own for over 30 years after losing their husbands.

commonrail:
you`re [zb] up…carryfast.

p.s why have nearly all your posts been edited :question:

That’s your opinion fair enough.I’ve edited them to add stuff that’s relevant and to (try to) make sure that what I’m saying is clear because sometimes a lot of people get it all mixed up. :smiling_imp: :unamused:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
Animals don’t get married, they settle down with the first one they meet & who will stand.

Monogamous only means having one partner and never taking another even if she dies

Most animals aren’t monogamous like humans although Swans are one example.There’s plenty of examples out there of marriages which lasted a lifetime and in which either partner has been made a widow or widower and never wanted anyone else after that.Both my Grandparents and parents and at least one other example in the family being three cases I know of.In the case of my grandparents both widows lived on their own for over 30 years after losing their husbands.

You’re “plenty of examples” are members of your family, hardly a fair study of the population :stuck_out_tongue:

Gibbons, Swans, Turtle Doves, Wolves, Angel Fish, Lovebirds, Termites, Vultures and Bald Eagles mate for life.

However monogamy or polygamy was not your problem, it was some jack the lad who trounced your bird, whilst your seed was going off in your hand. But it has been an interesting discussion, from young love lost, Jimmy Saville to the KKK and back to the ethnic Africans

Wheel Nut:

Carryfast:

Wheel Nut:
Animals don’t get married, they settle down with the first one they meet & who will stand.

Monogamous only means having one partner and never taking another even if she dies

Most animals aren’t monogamous like humans although Swans are one example.There’s plenty of examples out there of marriages which lasted a lifetime and in which either partner has been made a widow or widower and never wanted anyone else after that.Both my Grandparents and parents and at least one other example in the family being three cases I know of.In the case of my grandparents both widows lived on their own for over 30 years after losing their husbands.

You’re “plenty of examples” are members of your family, hardly a fair study of the population :stuck_out_tongue:

Gibbons, Swans, Turtle Doves, Wolves, Angel Fish, Lovebirds, Termites, Vultures and Bald Eagles mate for life.

However monogamy or polygamy was not your problem, it was some jack the lad who trounced your bird, whilst your seed was going off in your hand. But it has been an interesting discussion, from young love lost, Jimmy Saville to the KKK and back to the ethnic Africans

Definititely not the KKK.It’s just an observation based on experience and common sense if we want our own culture and indigenous ethnic roots to survive.Otherwise there’s not much point in keeping national borders or the idea of nation.That’s not the same thing as wanting to harm people because they are different (as opposed to the idea of keeping different cultures and different ethnic groups different) which is what seperates my ideas from Hitler and the KKK. :bulb:

But the issues of monogamy and treating women properly are all relevant to some of the issues related to the Savile and others case (and the Charles and Diana one).I don’t think we’d have been having this discussion if Savile had just done what Joe Philpot did in meeting a 15 year old bird during the 1970’s then having a family with her and marrying her by the age of 17.Or for that matter the lucky middle aged zb who got the teenaged girl of my own age in my case. :bulb:

The issues of young love lost in my case,as I’ve said,possibly having a connection with the media grooming excercise which the BBC obviously arranged to smooth the way for Charles to get the girl not someone of her own age and which Savile and others obviouly took full adavantage of.

For the life of me I cannot understand why you still think that the BBC was behind all this just so Charles could get Diana, have you not been keeping up with the news, seems like nearly everyone was at it.

raymundo:
For the life of me I cannot understand why you still think that the BBC was behind all this just so Charles could get Diana, have you not been keeping up with the news, seems like nearly everyone was at it.

I didn’t say ‘all’ this only some of the cases.The difference is those cases involving young teenaged girls on camera on TOTP etc let alone what happened afterwards backstage and let alone the fact that obviously not ‘everyone’ was ‘at it’ in the sense of blokes like me of their own age at the time,being able to ‘get at’ birds like the one with the long hair who’s laughing about the other bird who’s being got at behind her. :smiley: It’s my bet that Savile and co probably saved her for afters backstage off camera whereas I’d have liked the chance to just have a chat and see if I could have then got somewhere instead of probably dying single and childless while Savile had more birds of my own age than I even knew existed. :frowning:

As I’ve said to put it another way it certainly would have damaged the establishment’s designs on Diana if the BBC had limited all contact with those girl at the BBC,at the time,to just blokes of their own age on at least a one to one basis,preferably a few more,and then made a big thing publicly about the show being based on the premise that under 18’s should only be mixing with under 18’s not blokes of Charles’ age let alone zb Savile’s. :bulb:

youtube.com/watch?v=aN92jXe4 … re=related

It’s not going on now or recently on TOTP etc so what changed between the 1970’s compared to 2012 :question: and why wait until Savile was dead before raising the issue :question: .

I can’t believe all this that they say about Jimmy Saville, He was a great guy. When i was eight years old, Jim fixed it for me to milk a cow blindfolded. :laughing:

TOTP was pulled about 10yrs ago and anyone who watched it from the 70’s onward’s and considered it some kind of true reflection of youth culture of the time was considered a bit of a blurt :exclamation: Oh hang on that’s you isn’t it carryfast, no wonder your girlie friend of your own age knocked you back for an older fella :unamused: She probably wasn’t into fire engine spotting or the engineering characteristics of Detroit Diesel’s but into having a good time, a good dance and getting seen to at the end of the night :exclamation: and not having kids or getting married. :laughing: :laughing:
Well that was my experience anyway and it had nowt to do with the BBC or Jimmy Saville :exclamation: And I still married someone half my age :laughing: :laughing:

Regards
Dave Penn;

Jimmy did the Commando course at Lympstone the same time I was there,in the Naafi I think it was him who touched my knee.Do you think I should buy a Ferrari or
a Lambo with my Kompensayshun.What age was he,over 80 and all this lot comes out after he is dead.Too late.

now then now then… aw’s about playing with my gear leaver… guys and gals… manual entry anyone ■■?

davepenn54:
TOTP was pulled about 10yrs ago and anyone who watched it from the 70’s onward’s and considered it some kind of true reflection of youth culture of the time was considered a bit of a blurt :exclamation: Oh hang on that’s you isn’t it carryfast, no wonder your girlie friend of your own age knocked you back for an older fella :unamused: She probably wasn’t into fire engine spotting or the engineering characteristics of a Detroit Diesel’s but into having a good time, a good dance and getting seen to at the end of the night :exclamation: and not having kids or getting married. :laughing: :laughing:
Well that was my experience anyway and it had nowt to do with the BBC or Jimmy Saville :exclamation: And I still married someone half my age :laughing: :laughing:

Regards
Dave Penn;

I’m trying to work out what part of ‘youth culture’ of the early-mid 1970’s that you were actually aware of :question: . :confused: It obviously wasn’t anything that I knew.

The fact is that bird who gave me the cold shoulder certainly was up for getting married and having kids before she was 20.It’s just that she chose someone a ‘bit’ older than twice her age to do it with.But she never even gave me the chance to show her that I’d had enough of work when I clocked out and left it all where it belonged and therefore I never got the chance to show her that good time and give her the same type of seeing to which that older zb who got her did.

Like one or two other posts on here what your ideas have shown me is that maybe I’ve been a bit too tolerant of the age gap scene in the past and instead of listening to my dad’s advice,by saying if I can’t beat the zb’s join them,maybe I should have introduced that old zb to some real early 1970’s ‘youth culture’ just as I would have done in the case of being invited to one of those TOTP ‘party’s’ and needing to show Savile who was going to get the girls on the show and I can guarantee it wouldn’t have been him and we wouldn’t be having this ‘discussion’ now.Which just leaves the question as to wether you’re saying that like a lot of other old zb’s you were also one of those zb’s who actually pulled a bird of my own age in the mid 1970’s when you were twice her age :question: . :imp: :unamused:

It’s a bit ironic though that someone who seems keen enough on age gaps when it suits you seemed to be quick enough in previous posts to compare the ideas of Joe Philpot,and mine since I lost out to the idea,with zb ■■■■■■■■■■ scum like Savile etc. :imp: :confused:

I’m assuming that you do realise that,the older ‘fella’ that you’re referring to and that I lost out to,was 46 at the time and the girl in question was 16 and chances are he had been dating her before that when she was 15.So not much different to the case of Joe Philpot or the idea of the designs which the establishment had on Diana for the arranged ‘marriage’ with Prince Charles.The only difference being that the establishment obviously didn’t have the bottle to let Charles start dating Diana when she was 15.While being paranoid enough about the issue to set up a grooming excercise before that point at the BBC both for her benefit and the public’s to justify the so called age gap ‘marriage’ which they had lined up for her.

at the end of the day… teenage girls arent in a position to make a rational decision about which ■■■■■■ partners they take....so therefore,as a mature adult it is only right that you dont exploit that nievety.
if you can`t see that carryfast(no matter what the law or church says)…then there is something wrong with you

commonrail:
at the end of the day… teenage girls arent in a position to make a rational decision about which ■■■■■■ partners they take....so therefore,as a mature adult it is only right that you dont exploit that nievety.
if you can`t see that carryfast(no matter what the law or church says)…then there is something wrong with you

So you’re saying the age of consent should be raised to 20 and no one should be allowed to have a physical relationship with them before that age including blokes of their own age assuming it’s supposed to be all about ‘rational decision making’ concerning which ■■■■■■ partners they decide on :question: .It’s obvious that the Savile type zb is being hijacked by those with a different agenda related to age gap relationships in general.Although as I’ve said from my point of view I’ve lost more than I’ve ever gained from the idea of age gap relationships,or in fact any type of relationship with young women even when I was a teenager myself,so yeah go for it let the dogs loose retrospectively on everyone who’s ever gone for a teenaged girl. :bulb: :unamused:

The fact is as the law stands a girl can legally (and rationally) make up her own mind from the age of 16.Not that it makes the slightest difference to me because I’ve never been that lucky and never will be.But no one has,as yet,given you the right to overrule the law of the land by branding someone a ■■■■■■■■■■ who isn’t.

raising the age of consent isnt something ive thought about tbh…its all about doing the right thing. if you as a 50 year old man,would consider ■■■■■■■ a ■■■■■■■ her 16th birthday...then in my honest opinion,i think youre warped.
there is banter… and then there is intention…the latter is wrong

commonrail:
raising the age of consent isnt something ive thought about tbh…its all about doing the right thing. if you as a 50 year old man,would consider [zb] a ■■■■■■■ her 16th birthday...then in my honest opinion,i think youre warped.
there is banter… and then there is intention…the latter is wrong

Which part of it’s a non issue in my case because it’s never going to happen didn’t you understand.

However the fact that it’s just in ‘your’ ‘subjective’ opinion,supposedly ‘warped’ for a bloke of whatever age to have a relationship with any girl within the law,doesn’t really matter.

If you’ve read my previous posts on the subject I’m split right through the middle between being 110% in agreement with you (even in the case of a late 20’s-early 30’s year old bloke just being ‘interested’ in a mid teens girl as in the case of the establishment and Prince Charles going for Diana Spencer.Let alone a bloke of 54 having a family with a girl of 16 in the case of Joe Philpot)

While also being 110% in disagreement with you. Because the law is the law and why the zb should I throw away any possibility which I might have been ( before this case probably finished any possibility of the idea for ever ) offered at some point to have the wife and family which I’ve,so far,missed out on,because a middle aged divorcee didn’t give a flying zb about your point of view when it really mattered to me when I was young and now it seems that,unlike him at the time,I’ve got to stay within your ideas now that I’m older. :imp: :unamused:

But if you’re right about teenaged girls not being rationally able to sort out who they want to have a relationship with before the age of 20 then it’s obvious that you’d be calling for a raise in the age of consent to 20 to reflect that fact.

It’s my bet that your issue is all about age gaps and some bs idea of the acedemic age of adulthood overruling the age of consent.Nothing more.In which case,as it stands at present,anyone over the age of 18 and who’s still single,is going to be zb’d off when they find out that any girl under the age of 18 is off limits to them.Which is just US federal law which I’m sure is what the government are intending on bringing in by taking adavantage of this case which is/was all about perverts in high places and nothing whatsoever to do with blokes like Joe Philpot dating and then having a family and then marrying a mid teens girl within the law.Although having said that I’d bet that you’d still have issues regardless of the age of consent or so called adulthood in the case of,what you personally,think is an excessive age gap between any couple.So are you saying that a 50+ year old bloke,being with an 18-20 year old girl,is ok in your view or not :question: .

Although like all the rest of the anti age gap lot I’m betting that you’d be hoping in that case that she’d have been spoken for before that age by someone of her own/close age anyway.In which case if only that idea had applied for me in the 1970’s. :imp: :frowning:

I am 54, apparently the same age as CF. Tonight I was in the pub with a few friends, the eldest is 63, the youngest girl was 16, we had banter, we had fun, we all commented on her arse, and she understood it was banter. There is not one of us who would take advantage, even if it was offered on a plate. It is normal behaviour, however if her mum or dad had have been in the pub, no one would have even dare spoken to her.

Where were the parents when these girls were getting shafted by JS and his friends? Stood outside the dressing room door listening in?

The girl tonight was totally relaxed and safe, and her Auntie was sat with us, she owns the pub, she runs the bar and keeps a tight ship. I was brought up with adults from a very young age, my friends at 9 were my fathers customers who were between 18 and 70. I wasn’t abused, because I knew what it was about. I was taken to race meetings at 10 years old and still keep in touch with those friends. Should I suddenly report that one of them touched my knee when I was 8. They cannot reply when they are scattered ashes or worm fodder.

In Carryfasts vast “experience” this is wrong, however the 16 year old was more impressed with a couple of older blokes discussing American politics than with two 18 year old giggling bucks across the room.

No mention of the BBC, The Royal Family, Black Royals or Virgin Princesses.

She will grow up to be a wise girl and will certainly meet someone closer to her own age, as is normal for the majority of the population, not at 16 or 18, but maybe in her mid 20’s. That is what experience is about, not some brainwashed idea from the Victorian morality books.

This thread is getting as boring as watching paint dry or watching my much younger wife mow the grass as I refuse to do it (my contribution to our disappearing natural fauna & flora). CF keeps on about the same old ■■■■■ about how he missed out on shagging a young bird to keep her pregnant so she would be around longer to share more ‘‘many happy years with her off spring’’ than if she had them later and maybe end up hating the ■■■■■■■ who had lumbered her with a load of ungrateful brats as she had no life as a young woman in her teens.
I’m orf to bed to get up in the morn to do nowt but still get paid for doing nowt better than reading his self sorry story. G’nite :slight_smile: