oddzpop:
@ carryfast
We are never going to agree on the job issue. Unusually I was bought up by a stay at home mom, unfortunately although she didn’t go out to work, she did a ■■■■ sight more than nearly all women I know now.
From splitting and chain sawing logs for my dads business right the way through to teaching me how to bake and crochet. ( and funnily there is nearly 15 years difference between my parents ages too)
I don’t have any kids but by Christ if some 18 year old was knocking on my 14 year old I’d have some serious issues. At 14/15 although physically developed a lot of the time, mentally a lot of them still think that relationships run like fairy tales. believe the hyped up bull that some folks come out with. And do you really think that an 18 year old is always after a 14/15 year old for anything more than ■■■? I would be surprised if it was for looking at pressed flowers together.
At that age many have no “so called” life experience. Although someone may prove me wrong.
As to your story about your love being “stolen” from you by an older man.
In school I was never the pretty or popular ones and as such at 15 had never had a boyfriend, actually as sad as it may seem never even been asked out on a date. Funnily I wasn’t the one giving handjobs out at the back of the playing fields either. Kids aren’t in it for love ( personally I don’t think so).
What I’m saying is guys my age didn’t seem to be interested so I looked elsewhere I.e. up/older. If now when I’m 25 they are interested all of a sudden doesn’t mean I’m going to drop what relationship I’ve got just to go with someone nearer my own age.
I can appreciate you side of the argument as in all cases it is never going to be the same circumstances.
However if the allegations of saville of touching up kids in hospitals that puts a serious downer on anything good that’s ever been said about him.
It also puts in to view to the people who are coming out with it now, the adage what’s right and what’s right to do. Obviously right is to string up the dirty ■■■■■■ to the authorities. Right to do not black and white depends on the person but even if they did do what was right how do you know saville wasn’t slipping the coppers investigating it money to keep it hush hush.
What I don’t understand why these people have had to wait til he’s dead. If any bloke had done anything similar to me at 13-16 I would want it resolving before the person was dead so some retribution could be bought upon him.
What’s the use of taking his titles and stuff off him now he has lived with them ain’t going to make no difference now.
All I hope is that it highlights others around the same time who were upto it and that they get (excuse the pun) shafted for it.
Ironically I think,at least some of that,just reflects the random nature in the outlook of the more recent generations such as yourself and Farnborough Boy compared to how things were in the 1970’s.Back then trust me most of the 14/15 year old age group,let alone 16,were grown up enough to know exactly what they were looking for and what they were getting into and we were effectively adults.
Because we were growing up amongst an age group of elders who not that long before had been fighting a war as teenagers and working in factories with dangerous machinery from the age of 14 and they expected us to have the same level of responsibility at a similar age and it was only the pc bs,such as the school leaving age being progressively raised to 15 then 16,which started the change to where things are now with up to 17 year olds being viewed as children and treated as such.
In addition to that needs to be factored in the women’s lib bs which was being indoctrinated into girls minds from around that time compared to the values which my old Grandmother gave my Mum and my Dad’s parents had given him which then got handed down to me and I was expected and was happy to live by those good old fashioned rules.
Like so many other issues the 1970’s were a turning point in societal history and as such things got blurred to the point of some/lots of girls losing track of right and wrong in the contradictions between old and new because some were being taught the old ways and it was those who were in demand as marriage material while those others were full of the women’s lib free love bs with the groupy type culture being some of the worst of the lot.
It really is a mistake to judge the behaviour of those women at the time using kid glove bs pc modern day ideas when the issue should be judged by the standards at the time.Make no mistake the reason why those crimes weren’t brought to light at the time,at least the ones involving the groupy type zb on TOTP etc,was because those girls knew what they were doing and what they were looking for and it wasn’t playing monoploy on camera or backstage with blokes like Savile and Gary Glitter.
It would also be interesting to find out,if at least some,if not all,of the situation that was going on in the 1970’s,concerning what seemed like a concerted over the top media blitz,to raise the social acceptance of large age gap communications of all types,between young teenaged girls,and older blokes,had some connection,in very high places,because of some paranoia about wether,what they knew was likely to be such a relationship,for continuation of the line of the Royal family with Prince Charles,might be met by public revulsion at the time 
.IE a sort of softening up excercise to create societal acceptance of something in just the same way that East Enders story lines seem to be made for now by the BBC. 
In which case it’s no wnder that paedophiles like Savile and Gary Glitter would have been as happy as pigs in zb and took full adavantage of the situation in which the last thing the BBC and authorities would have wanted to do was to rock the boat.While middle aged blokes wanting to dump their older wives for a much more attractive teenaged girl would also have been more than happy about the situation. 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQbBEeXvQGU 2.49-2.57
But at any point in history it’s always been possible to have a decent relationship between couples regardless of age wether it started between a girl of 15 and a bloke of her own age or wether it started between a girl of 15 and a bloke of 54 as in the Joe and Nicola Philpot example.
Likewise there’s probably always been perverts and blokes who haven’t got a clue how to treat women properly out there regardless of age too.Which is why I posted that comparison between what life dealt out to Rebecca Aylward compared to Nicola Philpot.Although I’m betting that if it had been me who was with her,instead of the scumbag zb of around her own age then,just like Nicola Philpot,she’d have had something a lot better to show for her life now than what she ended up with.Although I’d bet that her parents would have said that I was a pervert at the time just like those who said the same about Joe Philpot.
Unlike I’m betting they would now if they were to read this topic.
