Crimestoppers are advising people that for halloween, they should wear a blonde wig and gold tracksuit…Stand near their front door, smoking a cigar saying “hello, guys and gals…” Guaranteed to deter treak or treaters.
(Apologies if this is off topic)
Carryfast,
No I don’t have a problem with a 59 year old and a 25 year old having a relationship at all. I have actually even saying through out this thread that I don’t have problems with age gaps, age doesn’t matter unless that age is lower than 16!!
And despite your protests, kissing a 15 year old is wrong man.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast,
No I don’t have a problem with a 59 year old and a 25 year old having a relationship at all. I have actually even saying through out this thread that I don’t have problems with age gaps, age doesn’t matter unless that age is lower than 16!!
And despite your protests, kissing a 15 year old is wrong man.
So you’ve said you’ve got no issue issue with age gaps unless the girl is under 16.But then elsewhere,( if I’ve read it right and referring to the right poster ),you’ve said that in the case of a bloke of 46,let alone 55 like Joe Philpot was,being with a girl of 16,it’s his moral duty to drop her and you have reservations about the moral issue of a 24 year old bloke being with a 17 year old girl 
. 
On the issue of it being wrong to kiss a 15 year old girl that’s no problem either in that case as it just means wating until she’s 16. 
However assuming you’ve got no issues with age gaps then that would also need apply in your view to blokes of 15 kissing girls of 15 .
However we’ve got other posts here,admittedly not yours,which say that it’s ok for the law to apply a blind eye to not only just a kiss but also actual ■■■■■■ relationships involving girls of 15 in cases where the bloke is of the same age.Although as I’ve said common sense says that there is (should be) a massive difference between any bloke of whatever age kissing a girl of 15 as opposed to an actual ■■■■■■ relationship.If you intend on locking up every bloke who’s ever kissed a 15 year old girl regardless of what age he was at the time,you’re going to be locking up loads of blokes and branding them as paedophiles when common sense says they’re not.
However if you’re not saying it applies to all blokes,regardless of age,then in my view that would mean hypocricy in view of your statement concerning not having any issues with age gaps because you’d be applying one law for same age blokes and a different one for older blokes relative to the girl.
If it’s all about introducing an 18 age of consent because all girls are ‘children’ under that age then it has to apply equally because being 'children they won’t know before that age what they’re doing and what they want in relationships wether an older bloke or same age bloke before that age.However if it’s 16 then the same thing applies.
As for me I’ve got absolutely no problem at all with what you’ve described above and I agree with you.With the exception that the Joe Philpot example proves that starting a relationship with a girl of 15 is legal regardless of age,so long as it’s not a ■■■■■■ relationship at that point.If that includes not kissing her before she’s 16 then that’s fair enough too,notwithstanding the fact that such a limit doesn’t seem based on common sense or previous precedent to me and applying such a view retrospectively would probably be likely to result in loads of blokes out there zb’ing themselves. 
Muckaway:
Crimestoppers are advising people that for halloween, they should wear a blonde wig and gold tracksuit…Stand near their front door, smoking a cigar saying “hello, guys and gals…” Guaranteed to deter trick or treaters.
(Apologies if this is off topic)
FTFY
Oh and thanks for trying to get back on subject I don’t think it will work though 
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast,
No I don’t have a problem with a 59 year old and a 25 year old having a relationship at all. I have actually even saying through out this thread that I don’t have problems with age gaps, age doesn’t matter unless that age is lower than 16!!
And despite your protests, kissing a 15 year old is wrong man.So you’ve said you’ve got no issue issue with age gaps unless the girl is under 16.But then elsewhere,( if I’ve read it right and referring to the right poster ),you’ve said that in the case of a bloke of 46,let alone 55 like Joe Philpot was,being with a girl of 16,it’s his moral duty to drop her and you have reservations about the moral issue of a 24 year old bloke being with a 17 year old girl
On the issue of it being wrong to kiss a 15 year old girl that’s no problem either in that case as it just means wating until she’s 16.
However we’ve got other posts here,admittedly not yours,which say that it’s ok for the law to apply a blind eye to not only just a kiss but also actual ■■■■■■ relationships involving girls of 15 in cases where the bloke is of the same age.Although as I’ve said common sense says that there is (should be) a massive difference between any bloke of whatever age kissing a girl of 15 as opposed to an actual ■■■■■■ relationship.If you intend on locking up every bloke who’s ever kissed a 15 year old girl regardless of what age he was at the time,you’re going to be locking up loads of blokes and branding them as paedophiles when common sense says they’re not.
However if you’re not saying it applies to all blokes,regardless of age,then in my view that would mean hypocricy in view of your statement concerning not having any issues with age gaps because you’d be applying one law for same age blokes and a different one for older blokes relative to the girl.
If it’s all about introducing an 18 age of consent because all girls are ‘children’ under that age then it has to apply equally because being 'children they won’t know before that age what they’re doing and what they want in relationships wether an older bloke or same age bloke before that age.However if it’s 16 then the same thing applies.
As for me I’ve got absolutely no problem at all with what you’ve described above and I agree with you.With the exception that the Joe Philpot example proves that starting a relationship with a girl of 15 is legal regardless of age,so long as it’s not a ■■■■■■ relationship at that point.If that includes not kissing her before she’s 16 then that’s fair enough too,notwithstanding the fact that such a limit doesn’t seem based on common sense or previous precedent to me and applying such a view retrospectively would probably be likely to result in loads of blokes out there zb’ing themselves.
Yes but I don’t agree with Joe Philpot chirpsing her up before she was 16, in my opinion it’s like a mild form of grooming.
And that’s my issue about me getting with a 17 year old, however if one of my mates did however I wouldn’t have a problem with it but its just not for me that’s all.
In response to the two 15 year olds going at it, I don’t think any of them could be held responsible because they are both 15 and both kids.
However I think if an 18 year old fella passionately kisses a girl of 15 that’s wrong. They are crucial years in physical and mental development for an adolescent and is really quite sketchy on whats right and wrong for me.
switchlogic:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Your unbelievable, maybe your views will change once you have kids.I think its safe to assume thats never going to happen, well, not in the traditional sense anyhow. Kidnapping however…
Or marrying one
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Carryfast,
No I don’t have a problem with a 59 year old and a 25 year old having a relationship at all. I have actually even saying through out this thread that I don’t have problems with age gaps, age doesn’t matter unless that age is lower than 16!!
And despite your protests, kissing a 15 year old is wrong man.So you’ve said you’ve got no issue issue with age gaps unless the girl is under 16.But then elsewhere,( if I’ve read it right and referring to the right poster ),you’ve said that in the case of a bloke of 46,let alone 55 like Joe Philpot was,being with a girl of 16,it’s his moral duty to drop her and you have reservations about the moral issue of a 24 year old bloke being with a 17 year old girl
On the issue of it being wrong to kiss a 15 year old girl that’s no problem either in that case as it just means wating until she’s 16.
However we’ve got other posts here,admittedly not yours,which say that it’s ok for the law to apply a blind eye to not only just a kiss but also actual ■■■■■■ relationships involving girls of 15 in cases where the bloke is of the same age.Although as I’ve said common sense says that there is (should be) a massive difference between any bloke of whatever age kissing a girl of 15 as opposed to an actual ■■■■■■ relationship.If you intend on locking up every bloke who’s ever kissed a 15 year old girl regardless of what age he was at the time,you’re going to be locking up loads of blokes and branding them as paedophiles when common sense says they’re not.
However if you’re not saying it applies to all blokes,regardless of age,then in my view that would mean hypocricy in view of your statement concerning not having any issues with age gaps because you’d be applying one law for same age blokes and a different one for older blokes relative to the girl.
If it’s all about introducing an 18 age of consent because all girls are ‘children’ under that age then it has to apply equally because being 'children they won’t know before that age what they’re doing and what they want in relationships wether an older bloke or same age bloke before that age.However if it’s 16 then the same thing applies.
As for me I’ve got absolutely no problem at all with what you’ve described above and I agree with you.With the exception that the Joe Philpot example proves that starting a relationship with a girl of 15 is legal regardless of age,so long as it’s not a ■■■■■■ relationship at that point.If that includes not kissing her before she’s 16 then that’s fair enough too,notwithstanding the fact that such a limit doesn’t seem based on common sense or previous precedent to me and applying such a view retrospectively would probably be likely to result in loads of blokes out there zb’ing themselves.
Yes but I don’t agree with Joe Philpot chirpsing her up before she was 16, in my opinion it’s like a mild form of grooming.
And that’s my issue about me getting with a 17 year old, however if one of my mates did however I wouldn’t have a problem with it but its just not for me that’s all.In response to the two 15 year olds going at it, I don’t think any of them could be held responsible because they are both 15 and both kids.
However I think if an 18 year old fella passionately kisses a girl of 15 that’s wrong. They are crucial years in physical and mental development for an adolescent and is really quite sketchy on whats right and wrong for me.
Blimey so the conclusion seems to be if an 18 year old bloke,let alone older,just kisses a girl of 15 he’s a ■■■■■■■■■■ but if a bloke of 14-15 shags a bird of 14-15 and knocks her up he’s not. Which isn’t exactly how I’d see it if it was my daughter. 
As for what Joe Philpot did that comparison between the life which his wife Nicola has 
compared to that of Rebecca Aylward 
still stands in my view.Hopefully I’ll find her in the next life and that will be a marriage made in heaven that will last forever without any issues from the age police.
Well a 14 year old shagging another 14 year old isn’t peadophilia as they are both children and if so they would be both liable to be prosecuted.
Remember and it has happened women have been prosecuted for having ■■■ with minors too.
Carryfast “As for a woman’s place in society you’ve obviously been fed so much pc,modern day,women’s lib bs that it’s impossible for you to understand that a woman’s place in society,before that bs took off,was actually better for them and for their families”.
My mum grew up, got married, had me -she spent most of her life wishing she could have had something more, but felt constrained by the times to stay married and bring me up. I on the other hand, never wanted to get married and certainly never wanted children and am happy with having run a haulage company for the last 21 years.
Everyone’s different, you can’t really say that life before that ‘bs’ took off was better - for some it was, some it wasn’t.
This topic is going way off, I will be honest I was 17 poking a 15 year old we stayed together 5 years etc etc was I bad because I was 2 years older ? ■■■■■■■■ was I
This is about Saville he was a paedo he even admitted he was crocked Ffs. He took these girls against there will, most of us I.e me they wanted it at that age. This thread has so many pages and most are because of Cf and your long winded replies of ■■■■■■■■
keebs26uk:
This topic is going way off, I will be honest I was 17 poking a 15 year old we stayed together 5 years etc etc was I bad because I was 2 years older ? ■■■■■■■■ was IThis is about Saville he was a paedo he even admitted he was crocked Ffs. He took these girls against there will, most of us I.e me they wanted it at that age. This thread has so many pages and most are because of Cf and your long winded replies of ■■■■■■■■
Well said Keebs. The Saville stuff could be condensed to about 5 pages, the rest as you say is better suited on Pervnet.
If people stopped quoting CF they’d cut their energy bills and save Gorillas in some mist somewhere.
keebs26uk:
This thread has so many pages and most are because of Cf and your long winded replies of ■■■■■■■■
This thread would be only 10 pages long if he didn’t quote every single letter and full stop. If he hadn’t replied at all it would have been 3 pages.
He has picked more names out of a hat than Tom Bowler 
keebs26uk:
This topic is going way off, I will be honest I was 17 poking a 15 year old we stayed together 5 years etc etc was I bad because I was 2 years older ? ■■■■■■■■ was IThis is about Saville he was a paedo he even admitted he was crocked Ffs. He took these girls against there will, most of us I.e me they wanted it at that age. This thread has so many pages and most are because of Cf and your long winded replies of ■■■■■■■■
Not bollox at all.So where’s the big difference between you shagging an underage girl and any one else doing it regardless of age.It’s the same crime because it’s all about the age of the girl being that she’s underage so she shouldn’t be shagged by anyone.
According to the accepted bs situation here and in the states all that seperates you from being a zb ■■■■■■■■■■ is the few months before you turned 18.The so called morals as they are being applied by many are just ageist bs.To the point where many would view you as jack the lad for shagging an underage girl and Joe Philpot a ■■■■■■■■■■ because he didn’t but just chatted to one and then started a ■■■■■■ relationship with her and then married her after she turned 16.You weren’t bad because you were two years older you were a criminal because,unlike Joe Philpot,you shagged a girl under the age of consent regardless of wether,in your zb’d up view,‘she wanted it’ or not.Simples.
No surprise that under the bs ageist laws,or at least their enforcement,you won’t be getting a knock on the door like someone who’s considered ‘too old’ would for doing exactly the same thing.Which makes my point that the law related to the offence of ■■■■■■ activety with an underage girl is being applied on an ageist discriminatory basis.If it was good enough for me to have been brought up on the basis,that I’d be a criminal if I shagged someone’s underage daughter,regardless of my own age at the time,then it was good enough for you.Because no one over the age of criminal responsibility is exempt from the law and most blokes who broke that law were just out to get an unfair advantage,in pulling the girls,over the ones who wouldn’t/didn’t.
While one of the pressures on blokes who didn’t/don’t want to break that law is that issue of losing the girl to someone else who will.Which is an even more unfair issue under a US federal type idea of one law for under 18 blokes and another for those over 18 or the new world here in which it’s considered as ok to shag a girl under 18 or even under 16 so long it’s a bloke of around the ‘right’ close age but not if the bloke is considered a being ‘too old’. 
Which is why I’ve made the point that at least ‘some’ of the reasoning behind the present witchunt is about reserving girls for blokes of their own age.Which,of course didn’t apply in the 1970’s in the environment of a late 20’s/early 30’s Royal who’d left it all too late,and the establishment and the media needing to find a way of justifying that continuing search and making the idea of him,at that age,to still be looking for a mid teens girl,socially acceptable both to the public at large and with the girls themselves,on a large scale.Hence the opportunities for Savile and Gary Glitter with the BBC on TOTP etc.While young blokes of those girls’ own age like me at the time,lost out because those girls swallowed all the media bs by going for blokes like them at worst,or middle aged blokes who took advantage of the situation to dump their old wives for a (much) younger model.Although,of course,it’s no surprise that the establishment here has a long history of ‘adjusting’ moral outlooks to suit itself when it thinks it needs to provide a young girl for it’s breeding purposes.
But luckily for you it wasn’t my sister,if I’d had one,who you’d shagged at that age because I wouldn’t have needed to bother about it.Because my dad would have done. 
The fact is the law,related to the age of consent,isn’t (meant to be) a law related the age gap between the bloke and the girl in question.It’s all about the age of the girl.If that’s long winded tough because you obviously need the information.
So how old is the (gorgeous I’m guessing around my own age remember) bird with Alice Cooper here any guesses let’s just say the East Enders storyline writers wouldn’t be too happy about using it in a scene today and who knows what might or might not have happened afterwards backstage but most of us of her own age age weren’t stupid enough not to wonder.Although,assuming she’s around my own age,by your rules,it would have been ok for me to have shagged her if only I could have been there and got a look in.
Muckaway:
keebs26uk:
This topic is going way off, I will be honest I was 17 poking a 15 year old we stayed together 5 years etc etc was I bad because I was 2 years older ? ■■■■■■■■ was IThis is about Saville he was a paedo he even admitted he was crocked Ffs. He took these girls against there will, most of us I.e me they wanted it at that age. This thread has so many pages and most are because of Cf and your long winded replies of ■■■■■■■■
Well said Keebs. The Saville stuff could be condensed to about 5 pages, the rest as you say is better suited on Pervnet.
If people stopped quoting CF they’d cut their energy bills and save Gorillas in some mist somewhere.
Not surprising considering you’re just another of those who thinks it’s all about age gaps not about the law.Assuming that you can read he actually said that he shagged an underage girl and you’re condoning it.Who’s calling who a zb criminal now.
Jim’ll Fix It Theme tune is very popular ringtone. Iset it playing in Sainsburys the other night. Looks of disgust to people peeing themselves.
Muckaway:
If people stopped quoting CF they’d cut their energy bills and save Gorillas in some mist somewhere.
:lol: +1 them poor gorillas
Cf many people I knew we’re poking 15 year olds some were younger. We was always ■■■■■■■■ active at 13-14, just like most of this country is today. It’s a fact kids are shagging kids, and 17-20 something year olds are shagging 15 year olds, it’s why there’s so much teenage pregnancy. I knew a 23year old shagging a 14 year old they stayed together 7years.
Point being I and most are within a 5 year age gap of the younger girl. Yes we know its the law they can’t shag till 16 but come on Cf be realistic how many young kids are listening to that law now or even back 11 years ago when I was 17 ■■?
Saville did things against the girls will that’s the difference and yes it does make a difference a very big one
I never quoted you did you notice
Now before you reply please think of the Gorillas… Act now save a Gorillia
When I was at school, most girls in my year dated boys about 2 school years up. Whe I was 18 I was with a bird almost 3 years younger but 2 school years below. My mates had similar age gaps with their girlfriends. I met my wife when she was 18 and I was 21, but if it’d happened when I was 18■■?
…Great norks when she was 15 judging from photos I’ve seen (fully clothed before you quote me and destroy another gorillas habitat CF)
keebs26uk:
Muckaway:
If people stopped quoting CF they’d cut their energy bills and save Gorillas in some mist somewhere.
Cf many people I knew we’re poking 15 year olds some were younger. We was always ■■■■■■■■ active at 13-14, just like most of this country is today. It’s a fact kids are shagging kids, and 17-20 something year olds are shagging 15 year olds, it’s why there’s so much teenage pregnancy. I knew a 23year old shagging a 14 year old they stayed together 7years.
Point being I and most are within a 5 year age gap of the younger girl. Yes we know its the law they can’t shag till 16 but come on Cf be realistic how many young kids are listening to that law now or even back 11 years ago when I was 17 ■■?
Saville did things against the girls will that’s the difference and yes it does make a difference a very big one
There is absolutely no difference between statutory ■■■■ and ■■■■ and trying to justify the former,by enforcing the law, related to the age of consent,on age gaps,instead of the girl’s age,is just a get out for those like you.Make no mistake you’re a criminal by your own admission unlike Joe Philpot who,no doubt like many others,your hypocricy is enough for you to try to brand him as a ■■■■■■■■■■.Just because of the age gap between him and his wife regardless of the fact that his relationship with her complied with the age of consent and has,so far,lasted a ‘bit’ more than 5 years without him walking away from her.
As I’ve said in your case,had it been my sister,if I’d had one,there would have been some ‘issues’ between you and my dad regarding the fact that his daughter would have been raped because she was under the age of consent at the time you shagged her.Like wise there would have been some serious issues between him and myself if I’d have done the same thing to someone else’s daughter in which case her father wouldn’t have needed to sort me out because my dad would have done the job for him with interest.That’s the difference between your obviously zb moral upbringing and all those you’re relating to in your description,compared to mine.It also explains one of the reasons why he died without seeing any grandchildren because he raised me to comply with the law.While others didn’t which obviously provided those ‘others’ with an unfair headstart in pulling the few girls who weren’t looking for Gary Glitter type blokes or middle aged divorcees.
So are you saying that you deserve different treatment under the law,than if a bloke of 40+ had done exactly the same thing as you did.Or not .If you are saying that you do you’re just a criminal hypocrite.
As for my posts being relevant to the topic.I’d say that getting to the reasons for the culture at the BBC and the morals of the girls involved,which allowed Savile and allegedly Gary Glitter,amongst who knows what others,to carry out at least some of the reported crimes,is as relevant as it gets.Especially when that culture seems to have resulted in loss of youth of not just the girls involved,but at least some of the blokes of their own age at the time,who lost out,with being able to form decent relationships with girls of their/our own age.Because a large proportion of those girls were looking for Gary Glitter type blokes or middle aged divorcees.While many of the ones who weren’t were already spoken for by blokes of around their own age who’d been brought up on the basis that complying with the age of consent only applies to others not to them.
One of the aisians from Rochdale who have been charged with grooming young girls for ■■■ has been named as Jamile Fixit.