Harry Monk:
You are legally entitled to leave.
+1. like it . 
tomk86:
They would be taking me away in a straight jacket within a day!!!If i dont know the words to a song i ■■■■ it! shooby dooby skibbly dee you get the jist
I scream loudly at people to make them jump as its funny
I make up silly rhymes and then laugh like a ■■■■■■ for ages at my comedic genius
I wave at horses and ask cows for direction, swearing at them for being ignorant
I sometimes pull silly faces in my reflection as i am bored and very insecure.
If these evil driver facing cameras come to my place then I am going sabotage it or leave
If you keep your LGV licence that is 
OVLOV JAY:
switchlogic:
Thing you should remember is that the only time anyone will see the video is if you have an accident. No one is going to sit on front of a screen watching you go about your working dayIn an ideal world yes, but the cynic in me says a more unscrupulous firm would use it to build a dismissal case against an awkward driver
Unfortunately not, some have installed cameras with live feeds that work 24/7 regardless of the ignition being on or not. Friend driving agency saw it, covered it and within 10 minutes got a call telling him to uncover it again, he’s now banned for refusing to do so.
I’ve seen a bloke watching his site’s security cameras remotely on his phone (not HGV related mind), spotted something he didn’t like and then calls up “what did you do that for?”.
1984 has been late arriving but the technology is now here and cheap enough for every second of your day to be watched, recorded and reviewed and sadly there are plenty out there willing to do it.
I would leave as well tbh - it’s a step too far.
I know the forward facing cameras can be live fed so I don’t see why one facing the driver can’t be. I mean what a great tool for a boss. Not only does it help to clarify fault on potential accidents, it can also be used to monitor a driver’s daily actions like a cheeky cigarette , being on the phone or leaving the cab to skive off when not supposed to etc etc…
I’d be out the door paranoia would get to me in the end would constantly be thinking about camera.
Harry Monk:
But you are still under constant surveillance, and if I wanted to be under constant surveillance then I would go and live in the Soviet Union in the 1950s.
Going to fire up the Delorean Harry? 
Winseer:
I bet the Unions won’t be accepting this in any shape or form - putting them in the ascendant for once.
A union is only as strong as the majority of the membership and the majority of have history of accepting anything and everything when anyone that they believe has authority tells them that its necessary for them to keep their jobs.
I like to talk to myself, pick my nose and wipe the bogie on my trousers, scratch my nuts and spank out a quick one if I’m sat in traffic next to a pretty girl. I don’t need an office-full of people judging me on artistic merit while I’m quietly going about my business. 
OVLOV JAY:
Walk out, take them to tribunal for constructive dismissal. Loads of ours told the owner we’d do it, he decided against them
Cobblers.
rambo19:
OVLOV JAY:
Walk out, take them to tribunal for constructive dismissal. Loads of ours told the owner we’d do it, he decided against themCobblers.
What!? Shoe repairers have cameras watching them now too?
What is the world coming to?
Our trucks have them all over 2 in cab 1 facing driver 1 on dash facing out of window screen 1 in back with the stock then 1 at the back of the truck plus a reversing cam tbh once you get used to then you forget them
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My company installed cameras in cabs filming / recording audio, an email to our union stating the drivers privacy concerns etc, got the cameras moved, outside facing no audio now.
I’ve heard a high powered laser pointer doesn’t do cameras any good 
rambo19:
OVLOV JAY:
Walk out, take them to tribunal for constructive dismissal. Loads of ours told the owner we’d do it, he decided against themCobblers.
Which part then? The first I stand by, if I was a day driver I’d say there’s no chance, but as a tramper, you get naked in there. There’s privacy laws, that’s why we don’t have cctv in toilets. And us not getting them, when my boss floated the idea after a conversation with his broker, 5 long term drivers, myself included, with over 70 years service between us, all said we’d be off. He was only thinking about them to save money, voluntary not as a requirement. He thought better of it
yourhavingalarf:
Ask why cameras aren’t being installed on all the office bods.Most screens can be specified with a built in camera so, why are you being singled out?
I’d be inclined to put my butty box in front of the ■■■■ thing as a first reaction, after that, I’d probably look for another job.
Our yard and office is fully cameras up and all phone calls recorded etc.
We have dash cams but not in cab one yet but insurance company have mentioned it.
Our insurance is pretty horendous and every bogdan and Vladimir they ship in seems to have an uncanny ability to smash everything in sight
The firm I work for has them fitted in the trucks at their base depot, but they are spreading to more peripheral depots. My depot, or my vehicle don’t have them (yet), but after finding-out about them earlier this week, I promised myself that if I get into a vehicle, and it has one, I will put it in writing that they didn’t mention it at interview, and I will be resigning.
A driver trainer said the other day that all new vehicles they buy will be fitted with driver-facing cameras. These ones are activated by G-force, and send a 20-second clip of the footage prior to a G-force-initiated incident, such as harsh braking, taking a roundabout too quickly, etc, to two authorised managers, and two only, supposedly… They watch all of the clips when they have time, or when they have to review a serious incident. If you’re found to be on the phone, smoking, etc, then you’re in trouble. They also record sound too, so they can hear your conversations.
They are manually switched-off at night, but they will automatically switch-on again when the vehicle moves, or if it receives sudden g-force. So if you’re polishing the trumpet in the services on a night-out, and someone bangs into your truck, activating the camera, Tom and ■■■■ will be having a right laugh the next morning when they come to review the footage! Bang out of order if you ask me.
They may have been completely lying, but they say that they cannot watch a live feed, footage is only available in retrospect. For all we know, they could, but there might be walkouts if people knew, so they keep it quiet, and say they are “only available in retrospect”.
Somebody has already mentioned it, but in the future I can imagine all of the big companies installing them, and as technology improves, managers will be able to watch their drivers on a live feed, just like normal CCTV. As they become cheaper and more accessible, even the smallest hauliers could see sense in using them. Lower insurance costs, and dead easy to blame or acquit the driver of causing an accident. Maybe less accidents because drivers daren’t use their phones, or have a ■■■. Bosses will just shrug, and say it’s “part of the job”. Good luck in getting people to do the job, I can see serious problems, unless people just bend-over and accept them.
If they mentioned at my interview or induction that my cab would be fitted with a driver-facing camera, I would have refused the job, but they didn’t, no word was said. I might sabotage it first, and see if, and how long it takes for Tom and ■■■■ give me a bollocking. I can say that my last truck didn’t have one in, and they didn’t give a toss, but my new one does, so suddenly they do?
The thing is that it’s very difficult to argue against them. If you mention privacy, the company will just say that people in much less risky professions have cameras pointed at them all day, so why not drivers, who could cause some serious damage if not paying attention? I hate the things on principle, but I can see it being the way things go.
kr79:
yourhavingalarf:
Ask why cameras aren’t being installed on all the office bods.Most screens can be specified with a built in camera so, why are you being singled out?
I’d be inclined to put my butty box in front of the ■■■■ thing as a first reaction, after that, I’d probably look for another job.
Our yard and office is fully cameras up and all phone calls recorded etc.
We have dash cams but not in cab one yet but insurance company have mentioned it.
Our insurance is pretty horendous and every bogdan and Vladimir they ship in seems to have an uncanny ability to smash everything in sight
Good job it wasn’t bogdan getting carved up by that x5 earlier. You might have a bus lane appeal to fight now though
Quit !
I have told my boss that if they ever put one in my cab there’s one thing they will not see and that’s me. I live in my truck Mon to Fri, I scratch my ■■■, pick my nose and have phone conversation with my wife, I get naked and sleep in my truck. No cameras.
big brother is here alive and kicking .The unions should have been backed years ago when the spy in the cab raised its ugly head…all them years ago and we still do 15 hour spreads and ■■■■ in a bottle. well some do.
Harry Monk:
You are legally entitled to leave.
OVLOV JAY:
In an ideal world yes, but the cynic in me says a more unscrupulous firm would use it to build a dismissal case against an awkward driver
STOBRATS. 