IS this 40 or 50 for HGV?

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Smee:
The law is wrong ■■ ah well thats a first…No one took my bet did they… :question:

Look at this pic you can have single carriageway roads with 2,3 or 4 lanes but if there is a solid barrier or verge between the streams of traffic it makes it a dual carriageway

also have a look on this page it also tells you here

http://www.theorytestadvice.co.uk/learn2drive/dualcarriageways.htm

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ROG:

knight:
I’ve got three pionts on my licence that says it’s a 40

Then you should have contested it as it is wrong.

Answers like that is probably why you are an unemployed LGV Instructor… :angry:

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Smee:
I know the road well, and even if I was looking at the photo for the first time there is only one lane in each direction…Doh… :unamused:

As has been explain several times in this thread the number of lanes is irrelevant as to whether a road is classed as a single or dual carriageway.

Smee:
I always thought DUAL meant two ?

It does but the term is dual carriageway not dual lane.

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Legal Stuff on it discussed on another forum

a bit of a long read and a bit boring in places but worth a read if you really want to try to find the answer!

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bubsy06:

Smee:
The law is wrong ■■ ah well thats a first…No one took my bet did they… :question:

Look at this pic you can have single carriageway roads with 2,3 or 4 lanes but if there is a solid barrier or verge between the streams of traffic it makes it a dual carriageway

also have a look on this page it also tells you here

Redirect

All this information illustrates my points exactly, whats yours… :question: :question: :question:

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For those that still have doubts about this piece of road, I will phone a Leics police traffic contact at about 915 this evening and give you his answer.

As others have already said, it’s the word DUAL that is getting a few confused.

Many that I have trained - LGV & Advanced - have got it into their heads that the word DUAL refers to the number of lanes when in fact it refers to the number of carriageways

I can see why they think like that - it’s because most duals have 2 lanes.

The reality is that a dual can have anything from 1 to say 6+ lanes.

Those that know the A556 in the northwest can confirm that although the road has 4 lanes (2 each way) there is only a double white line in the middle and so is a single carriageway

If the highway bods were to put a 4 foot fence where the double white lines are now, then it would become a dual carriageway

hope this helps

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Coffeeholic:

Smee:
I know the road well, and even if I was looking at the photo for the first time there is only one lane in each direction…Doh… :unamused:

As has been explain several times in this thread the number of lanes is irrelevant as to whether a road is classed as a single or dual carriageway.

Smee:
I always thought DUAL meant two ?

It does but the term is dual carriageway not dual lane.

So then every A or B road with a lane going in each direction is a Dual carriage way… :question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Good grief, get a grip pal… :unamused:

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Smee:
So then every A or B road with a lane going in each direction is a Dual carriage way… :question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Good grief, get a grip pal… :unamused:

Does my explanation help you in the post above :question:

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Still no takers on my bet, you are all getting very silly now… :unamused:

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Smee:

Coffeeholic:

Smee:
I know the road well, and even if I was looking at the photo for the first time there is only one lane in each direction…Doh… :unamused:

As has been explain several times in this thread the number of lanes is irrelevant as to whether a road is classed as a single or dual carriageway.

Smee:
I always thought DUAL meant two ?

It does but the term is dual carriageway not dual lane.

So then every A or B road with a lane going in each direction is a Dual carriage way… :question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Good grief, get a grip pal… :unamused:

no cos the a and b road are not seperated by a barrier or grass verge so they are single carriageway.

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Smee:

ROG:

knight:
I’ve got three pionts on my licence that says it’s a 40

Then you should have contested it as it is wrong.

Answers like that is probably why you are an unemployed LGV Instructor… :angry:

Hardly a fair comment when I’m trying to help you understand the truth about duals :exclamation: :exclamation:

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My last word on this is that at least the majority of drivers who answered the poll will not get points on that bit of road… :wink: :wink:

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SMEE,put the bootle down and chill out,look at the thread later,maybe you will understand then.cheers Joe. :wink:

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Here we go smee one of these is a dual carriageway the othe a single carriageway. Which is which?

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Smee:

Coffeeholic:

Smee:
I know the road well, and even if I was looking at the photo for the first time there is only one lane in each direction…Doh… :unamused:

As has been explain several times in this thread the number of lanes is irrelevant as to whether a road is classed as a single or dual carriageway.

Smee:
I always thought DUAL meant two ?

It does but the term is dual carriageway not dual lane.

So then every A or B road with a lane going in each direction is a Dual carriage way… :question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

No, that’s not what I said but as you fail to grasp the obvious difference between dual carriageway and single despite many explanations and links on this thread it doesn’t surprise me you missed the point. I was pointing out the difference to you as you have a bizarre notion that the word dual refers to the number of lanes when in fact it refers to the number of carriageways.

Smee:
Good grief, get a grip pal… :unamused:

I’ve got a grip thanks, you’re the one with the problem of comprehension.

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Smee:
My last word on this is that at least the majority of drivers who answered the poll will not get points on that bit of road… :wink: :wink:

In fact none of them will get points regardless of whether they correctly said 50 or incorrectly 40 as the limit. Those that said 50 and do that while passing the camera will not get points as they are only doing the limit while those who said 40 will be 10 mph below it so won’t get points either.

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It must of been smee that put that camera in, he thought it was a single carriageway so set the speed limit at 40mph for HGV’s :laughing: :laughing:

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A38M Aston Expressway. Whats the speed for HGV’s on here ? As the road is a single carriageway, yet is classed as a motorway. (50 speed limit signs everywhere)

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BigJon:
A38M Aston Expressway. Whats the speed for HGV’s on here ? As the road is a single carriageway, yet is classed as a motorway. (50 speed limit signs everywhere)

Im going with 40 for HGV’s as ther is no central reservation.

other opinions ?

I reckon it must be 50 MPH for LGVs as well as other traffic as motorway rules apply and it is posted 50MPH.
Dual/single carriageway rules don’t apply to special roads (motorways are special roads)

BJD

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BigJon:
A38M Aston Expressway. Whats the speed for HGV’s on here ?

It’s a motorway so the limit for trucks would normally be 60 mph. However, as there is a lower limit posted it will be 50 in this case.