Plenty off second generation drivers at my place, and they are always talking about ‘home’, IE pakistan/india, etc etc.
They don’t consider themselves british.
My brother lives in the USA, he married an american girl and has 3 kids.
Ask the kids what they are, and they will instantly say ‘american’, not half english or half american.
robinhood_1984:
Carryfast:
Armagedon:
Just wondered,since travelling around the UK is rare,does Vosa employ any members of the ethnic community can’t say I have seen many working for the French equivalent.Or the Swiss.
Theres a Filipino with Swiss citizenship in the Zollhof at the Basel/Weil am Rhein border and he’s a bigger ■■■■ than Heinrich Himmler. I have never come across a more obnoxious jobsworth in my entire life.
One thing that has always struck me as odd is that growing up, having a German father and an English mother, I was always made to feel and told that I wasn’t English and that I was a German/kraut/■■■■ etc etc etc…often this was said by mixed raced people who were half black for example. How the heck does that work then? Given that a good proportion of indiginous English people are genetically Germanic and our cultural origins always hark back to the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings, all Germanic peoples…how is my 100% Germanic bloodline/heritage somehow not English and someone who is half African with only a 50% Germanic bloodline is English?
It’s the same question as to how does a Filipino get Swiss citizenship in a German Canton of Switzerland but I can’t with my obviously more Germanic origins than his. 
It’s all part of the same issue in which just because the place has been subject to european immigration from across the North Sea in ancient times,before the place ever existed as a nation state with borders as we know them,the government then seem to have used that as an excuse to have an open door immigration policy in which just being born here makes someone more ‘British’ than someone with historical family ties to the place.Such as in that case of Cliff Richard being as Indian as Gandhi was under that logic. 
I must admit that it irks me when I come back on the DFDS and that African girl in the UKBA booth in Dunkerque checks my passport.
Perhaps it shouldn’t but it just does. Of course, I’m always diplomatic so I never say “Sure, you can see my passport. Can I see yours?” 
is that the same as “I’ll show you mine if show me yours”, or are we on two different things?
I suppose I could ask the ethnic Border guard Sunday if he is trafficking young white English girls,could ascertain at least whether he is Pakistani or Indian might delay delivery of the load a bit though…not much difference than him asking if I have too many ciggies I suppose an implication that I might be a smuggler.
I was talking about this subject with the brother. He was telling me that, when he was in Afghanistan last year, while on patrol, they would stop cars full of what they thought were locals. Turns out they were from various areas of the UK, primarily london and the midlands. When asked what they were doing there they would reply, " doing our duty like you are doing yours" usually saying they would probably see them later that night.
They were all young men of Asian origin. The thing I don’t get with them is, what has the UK ever done to them to warrant that sort of action.
So we don’t all follow Islam, this is still a predominantly Protestant country. As far as I’m aware nobody stops them following their god.
Slackbladder:
I was talking about this subject with the brother. He was telling me that, when he was in Afghanistan last year, while on patrol, they would stop cars full of what they thought were locals. Turns out they were from various areas of the UK, primarily london and the midlands. When asked what they were doing there they would reply, " doing our duty like you are doing yours" usually saying they would probably see them later that night.
They were all young men of Asian origin. The thing I don’t get with them is, what has the UK ever done to them to warrant that sort of action.
Nothing.
There is a mental illness afoot which seems to compel us to kowtow to anybody from any other race or culture. Even when they plant bombs on our buses and underground trains it is still unacceptable to object to their presence.
Fear of being labelled “racist” drives white men to the edge of insanity.
Oh for gods sake grow up a little… yes there are some immigrants and even UK born folks that wish this country ill- but you want to label everyone with the same colour skin the same? take that attitude every Irishman is an IRA/UNLA Bomber
Just sit back and listen to yourselves, the same folk who moan that every lorry driver is seen as a danger to every other road user or unsanitary because of the actions of a few are hypocriticaly doing the same to another group.
Learn to judge individuals, by what they do and say and like or hate them for who they are , I hate some non white people for their views, I also hate some white folks for their views-n I dont hate all white or all non white people because of a idiotic few.
Judge an individual by his skin colour before he has even said a word is racist, Judging by race before knowing their thoughts is racist- being unable to stop and make a judgement on a person for who they are rather than their skin colour or your own perceptions makes you a closed minded, intolerant and in my view unstable person.
I served in the Army, and I served with mates- the colour of their skin was only important when we was taking the ■■■■, alongside the gingers, the fat , the paddys the cockneys the scousers, the geordies etc etc etc. when it was important we were all a bunch of mates working together.
Judge the person not what they look like… and if they hate this country and all it stands for let rip on them, I will probably join you- abuse another person because they are the same colour skin as the ■■■■■■■ described and for no other reason I will abuse you,
Why because i an British - and believe in fair play and a fair hearing, I believe in innocent until proven guilty , I believe in rights for all no matter what your background. Believe in the above and you are British, deny ANYONE those basics of the British way of life then you deny what it is to be British and should perhaps give up your claim to be British.
Next time coffin comes of a plane at Brize Norton containing the body of a non white Soldier, If that person isnt British I dare you to go and turn your back on the coffin draped in the union flag-and see what the veterans of the british legion do and say to you, Go and tell their Mum and Dad they are not British- More go and tell their section and platoon mates white or black the guy in the coffin is not British- I will lay odds the guys who kick your arse from one end of town to the other wont care what colour the other guy is who also giving you a kicking, they will just enjoy getting the satisfaction they have given a complete idiot a certain amount on enlightment.
If you really belive in white supremacy - Germany 1936 is that way- but give you atip it didnt work out to well for them either.
Harry Monk:
Slackbladder:
I was talking about this subject with the brother. He was telling me that, when he was in Afghanistan last year, while on patrol, they would stop cars full of what they thought were locals. Turns out they were from various areas of the UK, primarily london and the midlands. When asked what they were doing there they would reply, " doing our duty like you are doing yours" usually saying they would probably see them later that night.
They were all young men of Asian origin. The thing I don’t get with them is, what has the UK ever done to them to warrant that sort of action.Nothing.
There is a mental illness afoot which seems to compel us to kowtow to anybody from any other race or culture. Even when they plant bombs on our buses and underground trains it is still unacceptable to object to their presence.
Fear of being labelled “racist” drives white men to the edge of insanity.
I think the whole issue is just another symptom of integrationism going wrong with two cultures that are alien to each other being forced together when they should be kept apart in their own countries without communication between the two.In which case none of the terrorist attacks which have caused all the issues would have happened and the two cultures could go their own ways without interference from each other in each other’s affairs and home countries.
Rikki-UK:
Oh for gods sake grow up a little… yes there are some immigrants and even UK born folks that wish this country ill- but you want to label everyone with the same colour skin the same? take that attitude every Irishman is an IRA/UNLA BomberJust sit back and listen to yourselves, the same folk who moan that every lorry driver is seen as a danger to every other road user or unsanitary because of the actions of a few are hypocriticaly doing the same to another group.
Learn to judge individuals, by what they do and say and like or hate them for who they are , I hate some non white people for their views, I also hate some white folks for their views-n I dont hate all white or all non white people because of a idiotic few.
Judge an individual by his skin colour before he has even said a word is racist, Judging by race before knowing their thoughts is racist- being unable to stop and make a judgement on a person for who they are rather than their skin colour or your own perceptions makes you a closed minded, intolerant and in my view unstable person.
I served in the Army, and I served with mates- the colour of their skin was only important when we was taking the ■■■■, alongside the gingers, the fat , the paddys the cockneys the scousers, the geordies etc etc etc. when it was important we were all a bunch of mates working together.
Judge the person not what they look like… and if they hate this country and all it stands for let rip on them, I will probably join you- abuse another person because they are the same colour skin as the [zb] described and for no other reason I will abuse you,
Why because i an British - and believe in fair play and a fair hearing, I believe in innocent until proven guilty , I believe in rights for all no matter what your background. Believe in the above and you are British, deny ANYONE those basics of the British way of life then you deny what it is to be British and should perhaps give up your claim to be British.
Next time coffin comes of a plane at Brize Norton containing the body of a non white Soldier, If that person isnt British I dare you to go and turn your back on the coffin draped in the union flag-and see what the veterans of the british legion do and say to you, Go and tell their Mum and Dad they are not British- More go and tell their section and platoon mates white or black the guy in the coffin is not British- I will lay odds the guys who kick your arse from one end of town to the other wont care what colour the other guy is who also giving you a kicking, they will just enjoy getting the satisfaction they have given a complete idiot a certain amount on enlightment.
If you really belive in white supremacy - Germany 1936 is that way- but give you atip it didnt work out to well for them either.
That’s a very simplistic way of looking at an issue which has more connection to the type of events which took place in the former Yugoslavia and the reasons for those events than anything which happened because of a bunch of raving Germans who all seemed to have gone collectively mad at a single point in time. 
I think your points there could have come straight out of Tito’s Yugoslav nation building blueprints.It’s a bit like socialism it would be good and might work in an ideal world but it’s not and never has been an ideal world.It’s human nature that you’re up against.
think the whole issue is just another symptom of integrationism going wrong with two cultures that are alien to each other being forced together **when they should be kept apart in their own countries without communication between the two.**In which case none of the terrorist attacks which have caused all the issues would have happened and the two cultures could go their own ways without interference from each other in each other’s affairs and home countries.
Jeez… wake up this is a new era, instant communication easy travel, the days of gun boat diplomacy are long gone, they simply wont work today. the world has moved on and you either move with it or become a dinosaur. spouting complete testicles that probably wanst even relevant in the 60’s is hardly going to suggest an answer to todays problems. isolationism is not an option even China has realised that
Rikki-UK:
think the whole issue is just another symptom of integrationism going wrong with two cultures that are alien to each other being forced together **when they should be kept apart in their own countries without communication between the two.**In which case none of the terrorist attacks which have caused all the issues would have happened and the two cultures could go their own ways without interference from each other in each other’s affairs and home countries.
Jeez… wake up this is a new era, instant communication easy travel,
Absolutely and 9/11 was the result.
But don’t forget that what might seem good to you now in regards towards continuation of headlong integration between different ethnic groups and cultures might have to be paid for by future generations in just the same way that what seemed like a good idea at the time in Tito’s view was paid for by future generations that had no say in the issues at the time.But no surprise it was my ideas that brought peace to the place afterwards.
Rikki-UK:
Oh for gods sake grow up a little… yes there are some immigrants and even UK born folks that wish this country ill- but you want to label everyone with the same colour skin the same? take that attitude every Irishman is an IRA/UNLA BomberJust sit back and listen to yourselves, the same folk who moan that every lorry driver is seen as a danger to every other road user or unsanitary because of the actions of a few are hypocriticaly doing the same to another group.
Learn to judge individuals, by what they do and say and like or hate them for who they are , I hate some non white people for their views, I also hate some white folks for their views-n I dont hate all white or all non white people because of a idiotic few.
Judge an individual by his skin colour before he has even said a word is racist, Judging by race before knowing their thoughts is racist- being unable to stop and make a judgement on a person for who they are rather than their skin colour or your own perceptions makes you a closed minded, intolerant and in my view unstable person.
I served in the Army, and I served with mates- the colour of their skin was only important when we was taking the ■■■■, alongside the gingers, the fat , the paddys the cockneys the scousers, the geordies etc etc etc. when it was important we were all a bunch of mates working together.
Judge the person not what they look like… and if they hate this country and all it stands for let rip on them, I will probably join you- abuse another person because they are the same colour skin as the [zb] described and for no other reason I will abuse you,
Why because i an British - and believe in fair play and a fair hearing, I believe in innocent until proven guilty , I believe in rights for all no matter what your background. Believe in the above and you are British, deny ANYONE those basics of the British way of life then you deny what it is to be British and should perhaps give up your claim to be British.
Next time coffin comes of a plane at Brize Norton containing the body of a non white Soldier, If that person isnt British I dare you to go and turn your back on the coffin draped in the union flag-and see what the veterans of the british legion do and say to you, Go and tell their Mum and Dad they are not British- More go and tell their section and platoon mates white or black the guy in the coffin is not British- I will lay odds the guys who kick your arse from one end of town to the other wont care what colour the other guy is who also giving you a kicking, they will just enjoy getting the satisfaction they have given a complete idiot a certain amount on enlightment.
If you really belive in white supremacy - Germany 1936 is that way- but give you atip it didnt work out to well for them either.
Personally I don’t. Never have, never will. But I don’t believe in being silenced by attempts to embarrass me into silence with these hoary old comments. I do feel there’s a Muslim time bomb ticking in this country and that it was a grave mistake to permit so many to enter this country. Turning a deaf ear to the concerns of many of the indigenous population will see it all end in tears. They have no intention of integrating into our Western culture and I’d suggest if you want to talk about “supremacists” then you might do well to look at many Muslims who leave me in no doubt they consider themselves superior.
Technically races and nationalities are always evolving anyway. Take our little Island, Britain, named before the Angles, who would eventually give the bit in the middle the name England, even existed. If anyone has any actual claim to the land, they would have to be Pictish or so on in origin and those bloodlines have been watered down so much by millenia of interbreeding that they no longer exist. Then some Italians came along and managed to take and hold the land for a while, bred with the natives, brought in some new technology then had to leave. Next came the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, who were being pushed from their own lands by stronger germanic tribes. The Island then became roughly 9 “countries” each with its own kings, although with a shared common language and beliefs. Throw in some Danes in the Northeast and Norwiegans in the far north and we have a nice little mix going already.
In 871 we get the first “King” of all England, which at the time still didn’t include everything we know it as today. So the English as a “people” are only 1200 years old. That only lasted…200 years before the Normans rolled up and took over. All the while bloodlines and cultures are mixing.
Now if we look at our culture and some of the things we take pride in. The flag, Georges Cross, firstly it’s a Christian symbol, which represents a TURKISH knight? Secondly, the whole Christian thing, the BNP annoy me for alot of reasons but none so much as their banging on about how we are a Christian people. So we take pride in a belief system created to unify the various groups of the Roman Empire under a common set of laws, which managed to give a fair amount of power to Rome hundreds of years after the Empire fell. It was also forced apon the people of Europe, on pain of death. Entire villages and towns who refused to give up their beliefs were burned and the population slaughtered and that’s before the Christians started killing each other. The whole thing was about power and wealth and yet we teach kids in schools the words of God? Not even as a myth like we’d teach Egyptian or Ancient Greek beliefs, we still press it on kids as if it’s real!
Our language is a mixture of germanic, french and Latin, our days of the week come from the Norse gods and our months celebrate two Roman emperors. We got the height of our power off the back of slaves and subduing various native populations around the globe. We had the first concentration camps and were pioneers in the “study” of eugenics.
The time we are in now, is just another phase of our evolution as a people. Of course some people won’t like it, the same as people in the past probably hated the changes that were coming which created the lifestyle, country and culture so many of us love now.
Ultimately, judging anyone on anything other than your own personal experience with THAT INDIVIDUAL is silly. I’ve listened to a gay guy go on an incredibly abusive rant about straight people. He was a ■■■■. That does not mean all gay guys are dicks. In the same vein, a group of ignorant muslims should not tarnish every muslim, or the BNP or WBC should not tarnish every christian. Ok, I might dislike the religions themselves but unless the individual who believes in them happens to be a ■■■■, live and let live.
It’s not wrong to be proud of where you are from, despite my earlier rant, that was simply to prove we are not as special as we think we are. It is all random though. By chance, I was born in Britain, in what is now England, as were generations of my family as far back as I can find. Doesn’t give me anymore right to be here than a black guy, an asian guy, or anyone else who wants to live here and appreciates being here. Now you could say “But Pariah, x% of y immigrants are on benefits with no intention to work, so they shouldn’t be here!” which is a fair point and that x% are dicks, the same as the % of white people who live off the state with no intention of trying to be self sufficient. In that case, cap benefits to 1 year, anyone can find a job, any job, within a year.
I’m diverting slightly so I’ll get back to my point. If we say x% is 35% of a given group of immigrants, remove the lure of benefits and that 35% might not come here. The other 65%, who came here with the intention to work and live a better life than they could in the place they were randomly born, will still be here regardless. To hate them for wanting a better life, based off nothing more than the luck of the draw as to where we are born, makes no sense to me.
Well…that stemmed the boredom for a while, probably made about as much sense as a Toby post but there you go.
Carryfast:
Rikki-UK:
Oh for gods sake grow up a little… yes there are some immigrants and even UK born folks that wish this country ill- but you want to label everyone with the same colour skin the same? take that attitude every Irishman is an IRA/UNLA BomberJust sit back and listen to yourselves, the same folk who moan that every lorry driver is seen as a danger to every other road user or unsanitary because of the actions of a few are hypocriticaly doing the same to another group.
Learn to judge individuals, by what they do and say and like or hate them for who they are , I hate some non white people for their views, I also hate some white folks for their views-n I dont hate all white or all non white people because of a idiotic few.
Judge an individual by his skin colour before he has even said a word is racist, Judging by race before knowing their thoughts is racist- being unable to stop and make a judgement on a person for who they are rather than their skin colour or your own perceptions makes you a closed minded, intolerant and in my view unstable person.
I served in the Army, and I served with mates- the colour of their skin was only important when we was taking the ■■■■, alongside the gingers, the fat , the paddys the cockneys the scousers, the geordies etc etc etc. when it was important we were all a bunch of mates working together.
Judge the person not what they look like… and if they hate this country and all it stands for let rip on them, I will probably join you- abuse another person because they are the same colour skin as the [zb] described and for no other reason I will abuse you,
Why because i an British - and believe in fair play and a fair hearing, I believe in innocent until proven guilty , I believe in rights for all no matter what your background. Believe in the above and you are British, deny ANYONE those basics of the British way of life then you deny what it is to be British and should perhaps give up your claim to be British.
Next time coffin comes of a plane at Brize Norton containing the body of a non white Soldier, If that person isnt British I dare you to go and turn your back on the coffin draped in the union flag-and see what the veterans of the british legion do and say to you, Go and tell their Mum and Dad they are not British- More go and tell their section and platoon mates white or black the guy in the coffin is not British- I will lay odds the guys who kick your arse from one end of town to the other wont care what colour the other guy is who also giving you a kicking, they will just enjoy getting the satisfaction they have given a complete idiot a certain amount on enlightment.
If you really belive in white supremacy - Germany 1936 is that way- but give you atip it didnt work out to well for them either.
That’s a very simplistic way of looking at an issue which has more connection to the type of events which took place in the former Yugoslavia and the reasons for those events than anything which happened because of a bunch of raving Germans who all seemed to have gone collectively mad at a single point in time.
I think your points there could have come straight out of Tito’s Yugoslav nation building blueprints.It’s a bit like socialism it would be good and might work in an ideal world but it’s not and never has been an ideal world.It’s human nature that you’re up against.
No Carryfast, what we’re up against is small mined bigotry 
Lets face facts, after WW2 when immigration started in serious numbers (to replenish the stock of young working men we lost to the other small minded bigot and his followers) these people came over and were treated as second class citizens, quite often they had a language barrier, so they stuck together, some people then turned on them and this compounded matters, making them stick in their own little ghettos, just the same as the English do when they move abroad, as the Mexicans do in the USA, it’s human nature to surround yourself with the familiar
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this matter, if you want to hate someone because of their skin colour or religion, that’s your call, but think about this, if you do, it makes you no better than the Muslims that declare Jihad on the Infedels
I’m an immigrant myself, yet I get treated far better than the wearers of the wraparound stetson, why 
Some of them are second or third generation so they’re really Canadians, I’ve been here 4yrs, they’re far more entitled to be here than I am, yet because I don’t display my heritage by the colour of my skin or my headgear I blend in and get no problems, it’s a pretty [zb]ed up World really isn’t it
newmercman:
Carryfast:
Rikki-UK:
Oh for gods sake grow up a little… yes there are some immigrants and even UK born folks that wish this country ill- but you want to label everyone with the same colour skin the same? take that attitude every Irishman is an IRA/UNLA BomberJust sit back and listen to yourselves, the same folk who moan that every lorry driver is seen as a danger to every other road user or unsanitary because of the actions of a few are hypocriticaly doing the same to another group.
Learn to judge individuals, by what they do and say and like or hate them for who they are , I hate some non white people for their views, I also hate some white folks for their views-n I dont hate all white or all non white people because of a idiotic few.
Judge an individual by his skin colour before he has even said a word is racist, Judging by race before knowing their thoughts is racist- being unable to stop and make a judgement on a person for who they are rather than their skin colour or your own perceptions makes you a closed minded, intolerant and in my view unstable person.
I served in the Army, and I served with mates- the colour of their skin was only important when we was taking the ■■■■, alongside the gingers, the fat , the paddys the cockneys the scousers, the geordies etc etc etc. when it was important we were all a bunch of mates working together.
Judge the person not what they look like… and if they hate this country and all it stands for let rip on them, I will probably join you- abuse another person because they are the same colour skin as the [zb] described and for no other reason I will abuse you,
Why because i an British - and believe in fair play and a fair hearing, I believe in innocent until proven guilty , I believe in rights for all no matter what your background. Believe in the above and you are British, deny ANYONE those basics of the British way of life then you deny what it is to be British and should perhaps give up your claim to be British.
Next time coffin comes of a plane at Brize Norton containing the body of a non white Soldier, If that person isnt British I dare you to go and turn your back on the coffin draped in the union flag-and see what the veterans of the british legion do and say to you, Go and tell their Mum and Dad they are not British- More go and tell their section and platoon mates white or black the guy in the coffin is not British- I will lay odds the guys who kick your arse from one end of town to the other wont care what colour the other guy is who also giving you a kicking, they will just enjoy getting the satisfaction they have given a complete idiot a certain amount on enlightment.
If you really belive in white supremacy - Germany 1936 is that way- but give you atip it didnt work out to well for them either.
That’s a very simplistic way of looking at an issue which has more connection to the type of events which took place in the former Yugoslavia and the reasons for those events than anything which happened because of a bunch of raving Germans who all seemed to have gone collectively mad at a single point in time.
I think your points there could have come straight out of Tito’s Yugoslav nation building blueprints.It’s a bit like socialism it would be good and might work in an ideal world but it’s not and never has been an ideal world.It’s human nature that you’re up against.
No Carryfast, what we’re up against is small mined bigotry
Lets face facts, after WW2 when immigration started in serious numbers (to replenish the stock of young working men we lost to the other small minded bigot and his followers) these people came over and were treated as second class citizens, quite often they had a language barrier, so they stuck together, some people then turned on them and this compounded matters, making them stick in their own little ghettos, just the same as the English do when they move abroad, as the Mexicans do in the USA, it’s human nature to surround yourself with the familiar
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this matter, if you want to hate someone because of their skin colour or religion, that’s your call, but think about this, if you do, it makes you no better than the Muslims that declare Jihad on the Infedels
I’m an immigrant myself, yet I get treated far better than the wearers of the wraparound stetson, why
Blimey nmm no one can be naive enough to believe that most,if not all,of the motivation behind Britain’s open door immigration policy hasn’t been all about cheap labour not the casualties and losses of WW2.We actually lost around 383,000 military personnel out of a total population of over 47,000,000 at the time and the total losses were around 450,000.I don’t think we’ve ever limited our immigration quota to that figure.
As I’ve said the most important aspect is that history shows that just because the idea of ethnic integration might look good to some people at a certain point in time doesn’t make that idea right.Especially as the lessons of what happened in the old Yugoslavia have already shown what can happen to future generations a few years down the line and it was them who had to pay for the mistakes of people like Tito not him.
It was no surprise that all those who shout loudest about integration being a good thing were also the first ones to call for the putting up seperation boundaries on the basis of ethnicity in order to bring some form of peace back to the place.
So is that really the type of risk which you’re prepared to make future generations of the indigenous British population face ,especially if the those like the Asian communities manage to form local,let alone national,majorities.Just because some people think that the idea of everyone living with their own cultures in their own countries is ‘racist’ .That’s bigotry of the type that you’d find in any Socialist government.
One thing to remember Carryfast…I got the ■■■■ outa Dodge
Wraparound Stetson must be like been back in Belvedere. 
kr79:
Wraparound Stetson must be like been back in Belvedere.
That’s right Kev, I grew up in Walworth where the natives were a mix of white and blacks from the Caribbean, then because that was a hole, we moved out a bit and the mix was then of white and Indians, in both cases there were good and bad around, skin colour never came into it.
Although I have to say the Caribbean lot do a better job of integrating than the Indians, but they do have a language barrier to overcome, whereas those of Caribbean descent just have an accent.
Now before I give the wrong impression, I’m not a love everyone hippie type, I moved out of England for a number of reasons and too many immigrants was one of those reasons, but that isn’t the fault of the immigrants, it’s the fault of the government for letting anybody in, they should be a little bit more selective. It’s easy to say that they can’t help being born where they are, well that doesn’t hold water I’m afraid, if they want a better life, why not make their own country a better place?
Which sounds very hypocritical of me, having departed for a better life, but I never left England because it was so bad, I fancied a change and my circumstances allowed me to have a year or two over in Canada, just messing around playing trucker, as it turned out I felt that staying here was a better option, so that then became my plan and that’s still the case
newmercman:
kr79:
Wraparound Stetson must be like been back in Belvedere.That’s right Kev, I grew up in Walworth where the natives were a mix of white and blacks from the Caribbean, then because that was a hole, we moved out a bit and the mix was then of white and Indians, in both cases there were good and bad around, skin colour never came into it.
Although I have to say the Caribbean lot do a better job of integrating than the Indians, but they do have a language barrier to overcome, whereas those of Caribbean descent just have an accent.
Now before I give the wrong impression, I’m not a love everyone hippie type, I moved out of England for a number of reasons and too many immigrants was one of those reasons, but that isn’t the fault of the immigrants, it’s the fault of the government for letting anybody in, they should be a little bit more selective. It’s easy to say that they can’t help being born where they are, well that doesn’t hold water I’m afraid, if they want a better life, why not make their own country a better place?
The question is why is integration seen as a positive thing from either the point of view of the indigenous population or the immigrant one.It’s wrong to change the culture and national identity of any group.That’s the main flaw in the whole idea.They want the immigrants to come here to provide cheap labour but then they want those foreign cultures to miraculously change into the indigenous one .It just ain’t going to happen.Which is why nature put the different ethnic groups and communities in different parts of the planet and it’s also why you didn’t decide to emigrate to Nigeria or Pakistan instead of Canada.