Iraq

On the subject of bankrupcy…(thanks Gurner for reminding me about this, btw… :wink: )… :bulb:

Normally when you go bankrupt, you stay “undischarged” for 5 years…which means you can’t get a bank account, be director of a company, have a credit rating less attracive than me in the morning after a night on the vodka ( :open_mouth: ), etc. etc. etc.

BUT!!! Our lovely well-organised Financial Authorities (who keep track of such things) have got themselves in a bit of an administration black hole…and have consequently decided to have an Amnesty in August next year!!! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

This means that all bankrupts, regardless of how far into the 5 years you are (so 4.5yrs or 4.5 minutes, it makes no difference) will become discharged as of then!!! :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

So if you’re going to go pop, either personally or as a business…now is the time to do it! :sunglasses: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :wink:

Hope that helps… :bulb:

No its April 2005 that those with the longer bankruptcy will be automatically discharged.
Under new ruling, effective from april this year, bankruptcy will only last for a year, unless for instance its your second one.
So a year from the date you petition your bankruptcy will be when you are automatically discharged, and seen as the new ruling was brought in, in april, any of those on the normal bankruptcy which was 5 years, will then be automatically dishcahrged as of april the 1st 2005 (a year since the new rule came in).
And it stays on your credit record for 6 :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Thanks for the details, Gurner…I was only working on what a friend of mine who’s other half went bankrupt was told…much better to have accurate details from someone with the up-to-date gen! :grimacing: :grimacing: :wink:

Either way, it’s not the big deal it used to be, so don’t dismiss it as an option…it’s certainly less life-threatening than Iraq!!! :wink:

Pat Hasler:
Either an agency was making a fast buck or they think the British are cheap labour :exclamation:
That job is advertised over here for $1,000 a day :exclamation:

I wouldn’t do it for $1,000 a minute :open_mouth:

Wrong Pat! and Truckyboy too!, it is NOT $1000 a day, it really is $1600 a week (about $83-84,000 a year) of which only the first $70,000 is tax free for the Yanks, you would be indirectly working for the US military, but according to the info I received at the recritment drive here in Atlanta you woyld be working directly for KBR, ( ■■■■ Cheneys old company!)

neil46:
well i used the email that guy rope gave out and i am off to irag at the end of the month

:open_mouth: :laughing:
but do your Laptop whit you!

Wheel Nut:
Im still not convinced its a good idea :unamused:

Just a quick search on google for civilian workers in Iraq and Kuwait brings the following sites up.

http://www6.halliburton.com/frontline/archives/letters_front_2.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/10/earlyshow/leisure/books/main648445.shtml

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2863616

BBC NEWS | Middle East | How many UK workers are in Iraq?
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Ja,it’s a interesting Life.I was in Southyougoslawia 1994 during the War whit a load Hazard Good for some nice Guy’s.Don’t ask my who was the reall Destination,but it was a Load from Germany(Nato),so it must be the Right ding.I went whit a Ferry to Duras(Albany),across the County and entered by Mazzedonia.Costed my about $300.-under the Hand to Officers in albany that I could go till Yougoslawia.There wasn’t others possible to stop there Questioning.
http://www.iapwws.com/index.html

I might be a wuss, but at least I wont be coming home in seperate bags :exclamation:

I dont have a lot of family left, but what I have I think it would be selfish to go and work there. of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone else is entitled to work where they like.

I worked in Romania when Ceaucescu was shot on Christmas Day & Yugoslavia when that kicked off, and that was like a kids party

Cliff Warby:

Pat Hasler:
Either an agency was making a fast buck or they think the British are cheap labour :exclamation:
That job is advertised over here for $1,000 a day :exclamation:

I wouldn’t do it for $1,000 a minute :open_mouth:

Wrong Pat! and Truckyboy too!, it is NOT $1000 a day, it really is $1600 a week (about $83-84,000 a year) of which only the first $70,000 is tax free for the Yanks, you would be indirectly working for the US military, but according to the info I received at the recritment drive here in Atlanta you woyld be working directly for KBR, ( ■■■■ Cheneys old company!)

:question:
I don’t know.
Once was in Newspaper:Search Articdriver,they did not search HGV1 Driver
the other Time they searched Driver for Truck and trailer.
You know what i mean?There musst be anyone who did not know how he looks in UK for Classadriver!
Maybe IAPWWS doesn’t know’s anything of the Adverthissment’s,and it may be dangerous for the Staff in Iraq,when terrorists or theres Sympasisants read that in Mercedes Trucks may be Amis. :exclamation:

Pat Hasler:
I wish him well, but really fear for his safety and there is nothing wrong with that.
Lots of people are attracted buy the chance to earn big bucks. People get killed in accidents every day, but they are not deliberately targeted by murdering thugs whos sole intention is to kill as many foriegners as possible or take them hostage before beheading them on TV.

Get there and back in one piece Neil :slight_smile:

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VOLVO :question:

wll i have just had my immunization jabs so just waiting for date and away i go.

fred Kanka:
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VOLVO :question:

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Sorry :exclamation: am I missing something here :question:

Just started to read this thread! To give abit of balance on the money side of things, I worked during the war in Bosnia from 1992 t0 1994 on the convoys into Sarajevo, Zenica and various other places.

I was paid £550 a week, before UK tax, into the bank here as well as 500 Deutch Marks subsistence a week in cash out there. All accomodation was paid for,a comfortableish hotel, so we just had to find our own food (as well as scrounging field rations from the various armies out there!!) We worked three month contracts with 2 weeks paid leave at the end of each contract. Return airfares to the UK were also paid for.

After the first year, provided you had stayed out of the Uk for the right amount of days then we could claim back the tax from the tax man!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: After that all we had deducted was national insurance.

Full life and medical insurance was included in the contract and paid for by the company. Sick leave and pay were also part of the deal.

This was 10 - 12 years ago so I would hope the money would be abit more nowadays!

I would be extemely suspicious of anyone offering $1000 a day! May be its for real, but i would want to look at the whole package being offered! For example, would money be deducted for food, accomodation, airfares, insurance etc? What happens if you get injured? Plenty of questions to be asked.

Cheers Bullitt.

thanks for your input bullitt i will answer them for you.

  1. it is $7000 per mth paid on the 1st
    2.i am medically covered whilst out there
    3 a lump sum to my wife if i am killed
    4 $30 a day subsistance allowance
    5 flights and accommodation paid for

hope that clarifies things a bit.

oh by the way have got my visa and flight details i leave on dec 14th by KLM via amsterdam.

oh by the way have got my visa and flight details i leave on dec 14th by KLM via amsterdam.

do you have to pay your way to amsterdam :wink:

what do you mean :blush: :open_mouth:

no KLM from heathrow to amsterdam then on to kuwait international

all paid for

ok just thought you had to pay your own way from home to amsterdam. :laughing:

neil46:
thanks for your input bullitt i will answer them for you.

  1. it is $7000 per mth paid on the 1st
    2.i am medically covered whilst out there
    3 a lump sum to my wife if i am killed
    4 $30 a day subsistance allowance
    5 flights and accommodation paid for

hope that clarifies things a bit.

oh by the way have got my visa and flight details i leave on dec 14th by KLM via amsterdam.

So I was’nt too far out with the $1600 a week then…at least I was a bit closer than the $1000 a day some were talking about!, $1000 a day!, hell for that money I would have already been there and got the T shirt! :laughing:

I would still probably prefer one of the many agencies offering £900 per week working in the uk in the run up to Christmas.

But every bloke to his own. break a leg as they say :confused:

Pat Hasler:

fred Kanka:
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VOLVO :question:

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Sorry :exclamation: am I missing something here :question:

You too, Huh? :laughing:

Gurner, you racked up credit card debts of 35k before you were out of your twenties? Is this something to be proud of? If so then well done mate, go on my son!

For the record, I’ve never owed a penny in my life (apart from the mortgage) and I’ve managed pretty well without credit cards and loans, it’s called not spending what you can’t afford, try it sometime.

As for your post about Ladytrucker not to expect any sympathy if she was about to be beheaded, I’d just say speak for youself.

In an ideal situation, the Iraqi people would be able to do these driving jobs that are being advertised with danger money, but don’t forget, this country has to be virtually rebuilt from scratch and the Iraqi people, after the best part of 30 years living under the yoke of the Baathist regime are understandably suspicious and wary of the occupying force and do not want to work for foreign organisations whether they be connected to the US military or International Aid organisations.

It’s a good job there are people like Ken Bigley and others willing to place themselves inside a warzone and regarding the excessive wages being offered, just ask yourselves this, would anyone do these jobs for what you get paid back in the UK? Of course not.

Dazza

This isnt a discussion about why and when and how i got into debt, i got into debt because of greed and not being able to control my spending pure and simple, but that is nothing to do with you or this topic, and for the record did i say i was proud of it?.
I was just pointing out to neil, that although in debt there are lots of options open to you, bankruptcy just being one of of them rather than placing your life on the line and leaving your family behind.
I have the deepest sympathy for ken bigley and the likes, what happened to them is disgusting, but at the end of the day, he knew the risks when he went there.
So get down of your high horse and stop trying to just stir up an argument.

PS. I hope you [zb]

edited for language. Coffeeholic