Immigration hits all-time high

[franglais]

tmcassett:
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Yep, just ignore what most of us can see with our own eyes and go by what is reported as “official statistics”. I’ll post the link to my findings when I get chance.

If an asylum seeker refuge opens up next door to you, then you will “see with your eyes” a vast increase in numbers of them.
Does that mean that there are vast numbers of them everywhere? Does that in any way invalidate any other measures?

If you do find any figures that show significantly different results from the “official” ones, please do share them.

[robroy]

tmcassett:

robroy:
Ah cheers, that definitely puts my mind at rest,.I will no longer worry for the safety of my more vulnerable family members.
Good old official stats Frangers eh. …you can always rely on them.
So now I can finally stop warning my two daughters and my 14 year old granddaughter to stop being astute,.aware and conscious when they pass one of 3 hotels in my area.
Because everybody in the city is mistaken, the crime rate has deffo not increased since the invasion of these ####s.
Because Frangers has sent me an official link.
I’m eternally grateful, I’ll send the link to everybody.

Btw your what I guess as an attempt at sarcasm and/or humour about dog whistles has gone right over my swede …but hey!..at least I viewed your links this time.

Yep, just ignore what most of us can see with our own eyes and go by what is reported as “official statistics”. I’ll post the link to my findings when I get chance.

Frangers should be thankful he hadn’t been born German in the 1910s era, 20 years later he’d have been more than likely running around Munich wearing a Brown Shirt smashing certain shop windows with a few mates.

I am NOT saying he has ■■■■ tendencies at all, but he would have been Goebble’s ■■■■■■■■■ in those days, as neither had many of the German population initially at that time, before they were ‘convinced’ by official lines.
Where as the more vocal realists and the non gullible ended up in Sachsenhausen.

In the context of ‘‘It MUST be right, it’s what ‘THEY’ tell us’’.

To get back on thread, and in the context of this post,…
Incidentally Hitler missed a trick, he should have sent his troops over, like the economic migrants, in dinghys posing as refugees,.and asylum seekers, (from Nazism), an ‘invasion by stealth’, it seems to be working thus far.

[franglais]

Lovely! Our resident Drama Queen is getting all worked up into a lather again.
Ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the issues at hand.

Are there more asylum seekers in hotels etc today than a few years ago? Yes there are.
Why?
20yrs ago we had the same number of applicants, but they weren`t being warehoused for years as their claims were examined. They were dealt with in months, not the years it takes today.
Either they were rejected or if their claims were valid, they were allowed to work and join us tax-payers.

The numbers of them in (privately owned and profit making hotels) is because of Gov policy.
Spend a bit more on administration, and get a smaller bill for accommodation etc.

Spend a few quid on a portacabin and a few laptops on Calais beach? Nah, lets spend hundreds of millions on headline grabbing but useless deals with Rwanda. Or in RR fantasy land send armed troops over the Channel to sort em all out!

You do realise that we used to be in Dublin agreement whereby illegals could be sent back to country of entry?
“After this year, the UK will not be able to use the Dublin Regulation to return asylum seekers who travel from EU member states.” (HoC Library 2020)
But you don`t like to talk about Brexit do you?

Blaming a small minority for greater failings was a trick of Hitler.

Blame thousands of immigrants for a shortfall of millions of homes.

Blame “fit young men” for queues at the GP surgery? When the NHS has been under funded for many years?

“If only the migrants werent here" "Its all the fault of the Jews”
All the same. Dont look at what is really going on. Dont look at the bigger picture.
Just keep blaming the few “others” we are installing at the end of your street. (The ones you see with your own eyes) Blame the ones taking a few quid each from the system, whilst our cronies steal millions.

[franglais]

robroy:
I am NOT saying he has ■■■■ tendencies at all, but he would have been Goebble’s ■■■■■■■■■ in those days, as neither had many of the German population initially at that time, before they were ‘convinced’ by official lines.

Hmmm.
I think not.
Politicians in power at the time were spreading false statistics. Is that “official”?

Consider this:
Braverman has made numerous claims that migrants are variously “gaming the system” or “100 million all coming here” or “Grooming gangs are mostly Pakistani” etc.
Is she “official”? She was the Home Sec, but her statements were not borne out by the facts.

I wonder who fell for her spin and outright lies?

[robroy]

Franglais:
Lovely! Our resident Drama Queen is getting all worked up into a lather again.
Ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the issues at hand.

Are there more asylum seekers in hotels etc today than a few years ago? Yes there are.
Why?
20yrs ago we had the same number of applicants, but they weren`t being warehoused for years as their claims were examined. They were dealt with in months, not the years it takes today.
Either they were rejected or if their claims were valid, they were allowed to work and join us tax-payers.

The numbers of them in (privately owned and profit making hotels) is because of Gov policy.
Spend a bit more on administration, and get a smaller bill for accommodation etc.

Spend a few quid on a portacabin and a few laptops on Calais beach? Nah, lets spend hundreds of millions on headline grabbing but useless deals with Rwanda. Or in RR fantasy land send armed troops over the Channel to sort em all out!

You do realise that we used to be in Dublin agreement whereby illegals could be sent back to country of entry?
“After this year, the UK will not be able to use the Dublin Regulation to return asylum seekers who travel from EU member states.” (HoC Library 2020)
But you don`t like to talk about Brexit do you?

Blaming a small minority for greater failings was a trick of Hitler.

Blame thousands of immigrants for a shortfall of millions of homes.

Blame “fit young men” for queues at the GP surgery? When the NHS has been under funded for many years?

“If only the migrants werent here" "Its all the fault of the Jews”
All the same. Dont look at what is really going on. Dont look at the bigger picture.
Just keep blaming the few “others” we are installing at the end of your street. (The ones you see with your own eyes) Blame the ones taking a few quid each from the system, whilst our cronies steal millions.

Here we go again…Meltdown in shear frustration time again guys…
I really need to stop pressing these buttons. (I wont steal his 'clutching at pearls crack )

And HE calls ME a drama queen btw.
(Which incidentally is wearing a bit thin tbh )

Anyhoo…looking forward to a Labour govt sorting all Franger’s problems out at last.

[robroy]

Franglais:

robroy:
I am NOT saying he has ■■■■ tendencies at all, but he would have been Goebble’s ■■■■■■■■■ in those days, as neither had many of the German population initially at that time, before they were ‘convinced’ by official lines.

Hmmm.
I think not.
Politicians in power at the time were spreading false statistics. Is that “official”?

Consider this:
Braverman has made numerous claims that migrants are variously “gaming the system” or “100 million all coming here” or “Grooming gangs are mostly Pakistani” etc.
Is she “official”? She was the Home Sec, but her statements were not borne out by the facts.

I wonder who fell for her spin and outright lies?

Yep…you’re one step ahead of em Frangers as always, nothing gets past you.

[franglais]

robroy:
And HE calls ME a drama queen btw.

Well, accusing me of “melting down” or “being a brown-shirt” or suggesting sending armed troops instead of a few officials to Calais seems pretty much like the sort of thing a Drama Queen would say.

Still no answer to the idea of checking out claims before asylum seekers get here? Not dramatic enough for you?
Actually spend a few more quid on processing claims early, rather than spend millions on processing them slowly?

You keep on looking at the dramatic ideas that the “officials” in the Gov are telling you about.
Keep on looking at the dramatic figures they spin you.

C`mon…how many times are you going to ignore the issues and instead dramatize things?

Franglais:
No response to the points that a Conservative MP made to Braverman?
And to the French who offered facilities to pre check asylum seekers you suggest an armed invasion?

YOU WROTE:
"If it was me they would be checked in on the beach individually.
‘Where you from’’
Afghan, Iran.
‘Ok carry on for asylum processing’

‘Where you from?’
Somalia Albania etc.
‘Ok here’s a packed lunch and a bottle of water, [zb] off back on that boat’.
Immigrants cut back by 90% at a stroke,.with the basic asylum process started."

I pointed out that the French offered facilities for us to do that…IN CALAIS…
What do you think of this Gov not doing that?

[robroy]

Franglais:

robroy:
And HE calls ME a drama queen btw.

Well, accusing me of “melting down” or “being a brown-shirt” or suggesting sending armed troops instead of a few officials to Calais seems pretty much like the sort of thing a Drama Queen would say.

Still no answer to the idea of checking out claims before asylum seekers get here? Not dramatic enough for you?
Actually spend a few more quid on processing claims early, rather than spend millions on processing them slowly?

You keep on looking at the dramatic ideas that the “officials” in the Gov are telling you about.
Keep on looking at the dramatic figures they spin you.

C`mon…how many times are you going to ignore the issues and instead dramatize things?

Franglais:
No response to the points that a Conservative MP made to Braverman?
And to the French who offered facilities to pre check asylum seekers you suggest an armed invasion?

YOU WROTE:
"If it was me they would be checked in on the beach individually.
‘Where you from’’
Afghan, Iran.
‘Ok carry on for asylum processing’

‘Where you from?’
Somalia Albania etc.
‘Ok here’s a packed lunch and a bottle of water, [zb] off back on that boat’.
Immigrants cut back by 90% at a stroke,.with the basic asylum process started."

I pointed out that the French offered facilities for us to do that…IN CALAIS…
What do you think of this Gov not doing that?

Check what I actually said rather than misquote for DRAMAtic effect.
I never said you were a brown shirt now did I.

The armed troops thing was not a full scale D day invasion of France, ,.I suggested a company of specialists sent to take care of the root problem, the criminal gangs who make huge profits out of this…what is so wrong with that?

Sure on reflection I suppose I do agree with the point you bring up, if my opinion is sooo important to you on this, to check these people out before they get here, but they would rather take their chances getting here first, where they will be looked after, …once they are here it is harder to get rid of em,.and they know it.

But I agree with you solely for the reason to stop them coming over…there ya go, satisfied now?

As for me knowing why the Govt ain’t doing it…
How tf would I?
Instead of me spending so much time of my life like you wondering why they move in mysterious ways, and do all these bloody irrational things,.I would far rather continue to deal with the personal problem in hand, (the one that you practice the ostrich syndrome with, and say it ain’t happening. )
That is me keeping an eye on the young female members of my family out and about the city at night amongst all the scrotes and low life in the nearby hotels wandering the streets…so how ‘dramatic’ is that for you?

[franglais]

robroy:
Check what I actually said rather than misquote for DRAMAtic effect.
I never said you were a brown shirt now did I.

robroy:
he’d have been more than likely running around Munich wearing a Brown Shirt

OK.
You are NOT a Drama Queen. You just run around, faint, and squeal, like one.

robroy:
I suggested a company of specialists sent to take care of the root problem, the criminal gangs who make huge profits out of this…what is so wrong with that?

Not wanting to misquote you,
Are you suggesting a hit squad on foreign soil?
Extrajudicial killings?
A bit like ummm? The Russians sending assassination squads to the UK?
Not at all dramatic at all, m`lady.

robroy:
to check these people out before they get here, but they would rather take their chances getting here first,

Where does that gem come from? Have you done a survey? Or just making stuff up based on your imagination?
Do you think they are going to risk their lives for a few free meals in a run down hotel?
For most of them there is no legal route in.
Maybe now you`ll look now at this link. An MP asking BRaverman about legal routes of entry into the UK
news.sky.com/story/suella-brave … y-12753780

Are nasty scrotes a night time problem? Yes they are.
Are more teensntwenties likely to make things worse? Yes they are. Especially maybe, the poorer bored ones.
So maybe processing asylum seekers quickly, preferably before they land in the UK, and for those who are allowed in by law to get jobs and a future, would reduce the numbers of them near you!
Do you think it coincidence that there are no asylum hostels in the Cotswold countryside or Westminster?

[robroy]

Still the hypocritical ‘drama queen’ accusations and implications eh?
Well here’s some news for you, ‘Hi kettle, I’m pot…you’re black’.

If we argued all ■■■■ day about this it would get us absolutely no where.

Your pomposity, excessive superiority complex, and armchair pseudo political expertise,.(apart from being boring that goes without saying) , is impregnable in terms of debate…your mind is totally closed, and if your opinion is what you see as confirmed by an official link or statement, it then becomes padlocked.

So on this occasion you win…(but only because I’m bored now)

I’m confident that you will copy the date and time of that ‘you win’ statement and log it in as a ‘victory’ and believing it is so in your narrow world.
Catch ya later.

[the_maoster]

Well whaddya know? I followed all of the links and stuff and came to this,

Wwwgiveyerheadashakeyadafttwat.gov

[franglais]

the maoster:
Well whaddya know? I followed all of the links and stuff and came to this,

Wwwgiveyerheadashakeyadafttwat.gov

Well, that doesn`t say the UK is safe, does it?

It doesn`t say there are no benefits in other countries, does it?

Actually asylum seekers in Trance get the same entitlement as French citizens.
domasile.info/en/what-social-ri … Livret%20A.
More than an asylum seeker in the UK.
But I guess facts only get in the way of a pretty wee picture.

Easy question first: Is the UK safe?

[robroy]

the maoster:
Wwwgiveyerheadashakeyadafttwat.gov

Leave him alone man.
He’s an authoritative political expert don’tcha know.

[franglais]

robroy:
He’s an authoritative political expert don’tcha know.

In the land of the blind…

[bigtruck3]

The Palestinians will be on their way into Europe next year, they will have no choice the Arabs don’t take refugees and nobody near them won’t take them
It’s been written that next year will be bigger than this year for refugees looking for asylum
Better start building them alcatraz boats to house them

[franglais]

Bigtruck3:
the Arabs don’t take refugees and nobody near them won’t take them

Well done!
Pretty much 100% pure ■■■■■■■■. Not diluted with even a hint of truth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … population

Turkey and Syria are both relatively poor countries, both have suffered earthquakes, yet between them help about 4,000,000 refugees.

[bigtruck3]

Franglais:

Bigtruck3:
the Arabs don’t take refugees and nobody near them won’t take them

Well done!
Pretty much 100% pure ■■■■■■■■. Not diluted with even a hint of truth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … population

Turkey and Syria are both relatively poor countries, both have suffered earthquakes, yet between them help about 4,000,000 refugees.

Saudi Arabia does not take refugees and a few others near them don’t, the other countries near palestine already have big numbers of them way before the terrorist attack
They will be coming this way, as for your facts you will get plenty of fiction on that site, you do know it’s the public themselves that keeps that site up-to-date
So that’s why you think you’re full of information by reading fiction

[gidders]

The Palestinians have a reputation for not being good neighbours in the Middle east. During the Gulf war Kuwait are supposed to have kicked out 300,000 for their support of Sadam Hussain against the interests of their hosts.They did their bit to cause instability and revolution in lebanon which lingers on today.In Jordan they were the victims of Black September for instigating a revolution against their hosts again.Next time you travel by air and complaining about the security crap you are subjected to,apportion a good part of that to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (Yasser Arafat’s chums) and the People’s Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
Heaven help us if they move to the UK in any numbers.
I base my opinion on my experience of working alongside a group of them in Saudi.

[tmcassett]

the maoster:
Well whaddya know? I followed all of the links and stuff and came to this,

Wwwgiveyerheadashakeyadafttwat.gov

You got any links to prove that all those countries are safe? Without a link then I’m afraid your opinion is invalid.

[winseer]

Franglais:

Bigtruck3:
the Arabs don’t take refugees and nobody near them won’t take them

Well done!
Pretty much 100% pure ■■■■■■■■. Not diluted with even a hint of truth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … population

Turkey and Syria are both relatively poor countries, both have suffered earthquakes, yet between them help about 4,000,000 refugees.

Well, to be fair - Egypt seems to be doing a better Right-wing job of protecting it’s northern border than any other nation on Earth right now eh?

The Far-Left antisemetic types - have tried to make this some kind of “Genocide against Palestinian Arabs” when in fact it is about righteous indignation against actual criminals who seem to have got the Left world’s OK for beheading babies “in a day’s work” alongside some Gaza civililans tagging along for a bit of “■■■■ ‘n’ Pillage” for the sheer day-out of it on top…