blueroom1:
‘…I cant even read posts on trucknet because I’m not sure what I’m going to read anymore …’
Sounds like a lie-down might be in order, but as for:
blueroom1:
‘…I would like to see some of you racist and bigoted drivers make a new life for yourselves in a new country, get a grip of a new language and a new way of life and make a living for your family. Some of you could succeed, but I imagine most of you would fail…’
a). Being ‘racist and bigoted’ is a right that many have defended Britain for: I suggest that it isn’t a crime until being inflamed by tree-huggers because until then all have a democratic right to bugger-off.
b). The thread isn’t about Britons exiting their country - so why the ‘I would like to see’ nonsense?
c). Why not embrace the spirit that some folk might like the British to effectively be communicated with in English. Why is it ‘racist and bigoted’ to debate the restoration of what’s been lost with a politically tolerant but quality sapping indifference toward the grunts, blips, clicks and squeals that pass for daily life comm’s from many tongues who couldn’t care less?
dle1uk:
having been a security manager in the midlands for 10 years prior to driving i have some experience of these foreigners as such, due to the lack of uk folk wanting to work! security as no other option but to employ these people, i now some will blame the wage ect but as a security company they can only pay a wage which is in proportion to what the customer pays! we had many blue chip clients who would only pay peanuts so only got monkeys so to speak! but way too many english folk are prepared to claim benefits rather then work as such, belive me we had contracts thet were more or less a sleeping duty but folk would,nt even do this, unbelievable in my opinion! getting paid to sleep!
If your paying minimum wage and I worked/slept a 48hr week on your site, I would, after stoppages earn £20 more than I would get on the dole.
About the same as it would cost me to get to your site I expect and as a result would be working/sleeping a 48hr week for FA.
The only reason you get people to work for you at all is because migrants, initially, are willing to live ten to a house, sleeping on the floor and all chipping in for the rent.
dle1uk:
having been a security manager in the midlands for 10 years prior to driving i have some experience of these foreigners as such, due to the lack of uk folk wanting to work! security as no other option but to employ these people, i now some will blame the wage ect but as a security company they can only pay a wage which is in proportion to what the customer pays! we had many blue chip clients who would only pay peanuts so only got monkeys so to speak! but way too many english folk are prepared to claim benefits rather then work as such, belive me we had contracts thet were more or less a sleeping duty but folk would,nt even do this, unbelievable in my opinion! getting paid to sleep!
If your paying minimum wage and I worked/slept a 48hr week on your site, I would, after stoppages earn £20 more than I would get on the dole.
About the same as it would cost me to get to your site I expect and as a result would be working/sleeping a 48hr week for FA.
The only reason you get people to work for you at all is because migrants, initially, are willing to live ten to a house, sleeping on the floor and all chipping in for the rent.
I personally wouldn’t go and live and work in another country without being able to speak the language. Even if I could only speak very basic phrases I’d make the effort to learn whilst I was there. I went to a pub to deliver a couple of months back bloke comes out of kitchen. I says hello, good evening, how’re you doing? He looks at me and walks away. I returned to my cab and picked up a magazine until the manager appeared to ask what was happening. I explained that I’d said hello to someone and been ignored and she replied that he was Polish and hadn’t been here long and didn’t speak English. I was confused as to how he could get a job with a national pub chain whilst being unable to speak English and as to how he could recieve and understand instructions in the workplace but took her explanation at face value. I returned to this same pub last week and encountered the same bloke. Again, I says hello, he didn’t speak and walked off. So has he actually managed to learn no English at all in two months or is he just an ignorant so and so? I would have thought he would have managed to learn how to say “Alright Drive” at the very least.
george3:
‘…If you’re paying minimum wage and I worked/slept a 48hr week on your site, I would, after stoppages earn £20 more than I would get on the dole…’
Whilst as a significant aside, and this is evidenced through health benefits being realised & attributed to working, ones life expectancy & its overall quality (through self-worth, self respect, self-realisation, etc) has been proven to rise over those of malingerers.
blueroom1:
I would like to see some of you racist and bigoted drivers make a new life for yourselves in a new country
That’s the trouble with this forum and this industry , I rarely speak to most drivers out on the road because I don’t know if I’ll like what comes out of their mouths , its a shame that I cant even read posts on trucknet because I’m not sure what I’m going to read anymore either.
You anything to do with this mob?
If not you should join, they sound right up your street.
george3:
‘…If you’re paying minimum wage and I worked/slept a 48hr week on your site, I would, after stoppages earn £20 more than I would get on the dole…’
Whilst as a significant aside, and this is evidenced through health benefits being realised & attributed to working, ones life expectancy & its overall quality (through self-worth, self respect, self-realisation, etc) has been proven to rise over those of malingerers.
I can’t see sitting in a shed on a building site for 48hrs earning FA is going to do anything for my self respect, worth or realisation. Personally, as someone who’s paid his dues for decades, I think fkum. They can pay me some back.
my spelling ect may not be brill, however i don,t think that it needs to be for a forum,
as for being a racist ect i won,t go there as you have your thoughts already i don,t need to justify myself to you, I am happy that the people around me, family and friends know me.
security side of things, i may not have put things clearly, i,m not on about your usual building site guard we would,nt touch sites like those cos they are a pain in the arse, I,m talking mostly blue chip companies which we paid more then the minimum wage at the time and 1.5 at hours over 48 per week, at the time we were the only security company doing this and not many do it today. we dealt with NHS, local councils govt ect, seriously we could only pay what we got paid! 5-10 years ago it was possible for a static guard doing 60 hours a week which would have been 5 x 12hr shifts to earn £300 + per week! i know alot of folk are,nt earning that today…
as for other countries I won,t go on holidays if i don,t learn the basic language first! I can speak fluent german (based there for 6 years) spanish and french as well as a basic knowledge of greek. what everyday situations can you come across where you could be putting you and family at risk in other countries if you don,t understand the basics? during my time in the forces I have served and visited several countries and have made firm friends in these countries that i am still in contact with today… A colleague of mine ex gurka also holds the view I have! he served for many years to defend this country yet he was at risk of being sent home whilst an immigrant with no interest in this country was being allowed to stay and obtain benefits ect…
or perhaps this is what todays people want for tommorow?
orys:
Don’t think so. If you charge some Polish person, you have to give him chance to defense - and you will have provide him an intepreter.
If a Polish person is charged, the Polish Embassy will have to provide him with an interpreter if he can’t provide his own.
Wrong.
It’s not the Polish Embassy accusing him. He is accused in British court, therefore the British court have to give him opportunity to properly defend himself (what is a BRITISH rule) by giving him a lawyer when needed and interpreter when needed (also, for exapmle, medical help if needed). Polish Embassy can’t interfere with British courts rules and procedures therefore it has nothing to do with COURT interpreters.
Off course, IF FOUND GUILTY, he should have to cover the legal costs, which shall include the interpreter’s bill. But that should be AFTERWARDS and ONLY if found guilty.
orys:
Don’t think so. If you charge some Polish person, you have to give him chance to defense - and you will have provide him an intepreter.
If a Polish person is charged, the Polish Embassy will have to provide him with an interpreter if he can’t provide his own.
Wrong.
It’s not the Polish Embassy accusing him. He is accused in British court, therefore the British court have to give him opportunity to properly defend himself (what is a BRITISH rule) by giving him a lawyer when needed and interpreter when needed (also, for exapmle, medical help if needed). Polish Embassy can’t interfere with British courts rules and procedures therefore it has nothing to do with COURT interpreters.
Off course, IF FOUND GUILTY, he should have to cover the legal costs, which shall include the interpreter’s bill. But that should be AFTERWARDS and ONLY if found guilty.
That could well be how it happens with this ideot government we have at the moment. “Any excuse to throw money at a foreigner”, is the first line in NuLabours operators manual. NuLabour are going soon. Never to return in my lifetime.
It looks like blueroom has lost his balls as well as his brains.
George your a moron, you dont know me so dont insult me , I deleted the post because I couldnt be bothered to argue with anyone.
Deleting the post does not show lack of balls but thinking it does shows a lack of intelligence.
what makes you think I have lost my brains? because I dont agree with your warped veiw of the world?
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george3:
‘…Personally, as someone who’s paid his dues for decades, I think fkum. They can pay me some back…’
And therein lies a significant (and dangerous?) aspect that has apparently been evidenced/proven to curtail life expectancy.
Very true, I know what your talking about. Sitting around doing nothing all day encourages vascular blockages, heart disease, ect ect. However the significant difference between sitting in a security box 48hrs+ a week and sitting on my ■■■ at home for the same money is that sitting in the security box is compulsory. Sitting on my ■■■ at home is voluntary and I have the option of working out on my weights, decorating or a thousand on one other things to keep my blood pumping.
Saying that, long distance truck driving is similarly sedatory and screws up your arteries in the same way anyway. If the NHS/DVLA automatically included an MRA scan on every trucker after 30yrs, I bet a significant about, the majority in fact, would show signs of heart disease.
blueroom1:
George your a moron, you dont know me so dont insult me , I deleted the post because I couldnt be bothered to argue with anyone.
Deleting the post does not show lack of balls but thinking it does shows a lack of intelligence.
what makes you think I have lost my brains? because I dont agree with your warped veiw of the world?
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blueroom you lying fascist ■■■■■ You don’t have an argument and what gives you the right to insult people but not others. This post is a prime example of the attitude of the fascist group I showed a link to, which is why I ask if you are a member.
There is a massive undercurrent of resentment towards foreigners in this country, I know because I speak with people who I don`t know or have never seen before…Get into a conversation and it soon comes round to it…When the detritus does hit the fan, the fan is going to break, it is just a matter of time, not if, but when.
Me, I never used to be bothered by them, but now I have to endure them on a daily basis delivering in London…They are mostly rude, ungrateful and untrustworthy, this is not an assumption, it is experience…I doubt this post will last long in this oh so PC UK we now find ourselves clinging to.
blueroom1:
George your a moron, you dont know me so dont insult me , I deleted the post because I couldnt be bothered to argue with anyone.
Deleting the post does not show lack of balls but thinking it does shows a lack of intelligence.
what makes you think I have lost my brains? because I dont agree with your warped veiw of the world?
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blueroom you lying fascist [zb]. You don’t have an argument and what gives you the right to insult people but not others. This post is a prime example of the attitude of the fascist group I showed a link to, which is why I ask if you are a member.
What am I lying about ■■■■ ? I didnt insult anyone , I just said that he couldnt spell and its true, I am not a member of any movement except Unite and the Labour party, not NULabour as you think its called.#
I wonder if your on the BNP list of members ?
You mention them not being in power again in your lifetime, I hope they get back in soon then!
blueroom1:
What am I lying about ■■■■ ? I didnt insult anyone , I just said that he couldnt spell and its true, I am not a member of any movement except Unite and the Labour party, not NULabour as you think its called.#
I wonder if your on the BNP list of members ?
Well seeing as your so brain dead you can’t even remember your own threads, I will remind you.
blueroom1:
I would like to see some of you racist and bigoted drivers make a new life for yourselves in a new country
This was in response to a security guard manager employing immigrants.
blueroom1:
you mention them not being in power in your lifetime, I hope they get back in soon then!
They won’t be getting in for 20yrs or more. I think I’m good for that.
It’s good to read of your conformation of your active involvement with the fascist, habitually lying, treasonous NuLabour group. The very same organisation committed to division, inciting racial and religious hatred.The very same people funding their paramilitary associates UAF. A criminal fascist face mask wearing organisation committed to violence, intimidation and abuse to anybody and everybody that doesn’t agree with their undemocratic, criminal activity.
I also notice you have adopted NuLabours policy of deliberate ignorance of English.
george3:
That could well be how it happens with this ideot government we have at the moment. “Any excuse to throw money at a foreigner”, is the first line in NuLabours operators manual. NuLabour are going soon. Never to return in my lifetime.
I think the description of you given by other user of this forum may be correct.
This is a basic thing in ANY civilized society: if you accusing anyone of something you have to provide everything you can to help him defend himself. If you accusing someone who don’t understand your language, you have to translate it for him. If you accuse someone who is a total moron, you have to explain him the problem (or, if he’s complete idiot, you can’t charge him, but you just lock him up in mental institution). Therefore the right for interpreter (and a lawyer) for every accused who needs it will be in any civilised country no matter who’s on power.