Squiddy:
Sorry about reaction time comment. When one has watched the video a few times it’s easy to say you should have braked earlier. But in all honesty, first time I watched that vid I didn’t even see the Micra till the cab cam tilted forwards from the heavy breaking!
PS I drive a Nissan Micra (very considerately) so [zb] off with all the stereotype “all micra drivers are crap” comments. They are great little cars.
You must own the only one in the country then tht isn’t driven by a complete ■■■■■■
Silver_Surfer:
Lol, all the people saying erosion of stopping distances blah, blah, are you high? Everyone was anchoring on because some idiot was trying to get themselves killed, you can’t maintain stopping distance if you are effectively doing an emergency stop. Can you also see the rest of us from your high horses?
In this case it’s more a case of an emergency stop being required because seperation distance wasn’t maintained which would have allowed the truck to anchor up a lot easier with a lot more margin for safety.For the umpteenth time it doesn’t matter wether the car in front stopped because some idiot was trying to get themselves killed by turning right in front of it from lane 1 of a multi lane dual carriageway or for any other reason.The worst case scenario in this case would have been the car in front of the truck,actually running into the car in front of it,which had turned right in front,then the truck running into that car or if that car had actually just stopped and the truck had then run into it.In all cases it’s truck driver who would have been blamed for running into that car because the seperation distance had been allowed to reduce to an unnacceptable level ‘before’ the incident even took place.
It’s a frightening situation if there’s truck drivers out there who think that the speration distances between the truck and the cars in front of it,as shown through that video,were sufficient.
No, but I do have a straw boater hat and a box of tissues on the parcel shelf. And I wear driving gloves and the missus sits in the back seat telling me to “get past that dirty lorry at all costs then slow down in front of it”.
Carryfast:
It’s a frightening situation if there’s truck drivers out there who think that the speration distances between the truck and the cars in front of it,as shown through that video,were sufficient.
But it’s a hell of a lot more distance than most overtaking truck drivers give each other!
If there is one thing I learnt on this forum of fellow drivers it is that it is always the truck drivers fault for one smart arse reason or another, good job you guys are not Police, you would instantly be arresting the truck driver after an accident, oh bugger, they already do that don’t they ■■ Oh well at least your innocent until proven guilty, oh bugger, wrong again, the rules must have been written by fellow truck drivers who are part time law enforcers…
Saaamon:
So you post a video up on youtube complaining about another driver, then come on here to ■■■■■ about it, yet you were sitting far to close to the car infront given the conditions and the weight of your lorry…
obviously not too close… he stopped didnt he?
^^This
If you stop and not hit anything, how can you possibly be too close.
Saaamon:
So you post a video up on youtube complaining about another driver, then come on here to ■■■■■ about it, yet you were sitting far to close to the car infront given the conditions and the weight of your lorry…
obviously not too close… he stopped didnt he?
^^This
If you stop and not hit anything, how can you possibly be too close.
After watching the vid, I’d say he was fine
For the simple reason he only just stopped.What if things had happened quicker which was quite possible then he would not have stopped.
Why will drivers not realise what a safe distance is till it is too late?
Anyway, thanks to all for all the varied comments and advice, from it I have learned that:
A. I should leave an 8 second gap all day to be safe, although fine in 1979 (when i passed my class 1),if we all did that in 21st century Britain we probably would never make any deliveries before it was time to “pull the card.”
B. It was clearly my fault for being on the A414, in the rain and not knowing that that situation would suddenly happen in front of me.
C. Hooting in frustration is a no no.
D. And the 80yr old d***head in the Micra was my responsibility.
I must mention that the camera in the cab does rather make it look like i’m doing 70 everywhere, but you can rest assured that I never exceed 50mph, even on a motorway, (cue more irate posts about driving too slow
I was doing 50 on the approach to the roadworks and then slowed to 40 along with everyone else. As mentioned, I DID stop, I DID have it all under control and it was no great tragedy.
I post this with tongue firmly in cheek, knowing that on open roads elsewhere I am cut up by more HGVs “cutting in” than any other vehicle in any other circumstance.
Respect to all who replied
Saaamon:
So you post a video up on youtube complaining about another driver, then come on here to ■■■■■ about it, yet you were sitting far to close to the car infront given the conditions and the weight of your lorry…
obviously not too close… he stopped didnt he?
^^This
If you stop and not hit anything, how can you possibly be too close.
After watching the vid, I’d say he was fine
For the simple reason he only just stopped.What if things had happened quicker which was quite possible then he would not have stopped.
Why will drivers not realise what a safe distance is till it is too late?
He didn’t stop at all because if you look at the video closely the car he was following actually effectively took ROG’s advice probably because it’s driver already knew that he had a truck travelling too close behind long before the idiot in the Micra did anything.Luckily for all concerned the idiot who turned right in lane 1 wasn’t stopped from doing so by traffic in lane 2.Yeah right it would be interesting to see what happens if he takes the above advice which says show the video to the law.
steveo999:
Anyway, thanks to all for all the varied comments and advice, from it I have learned that:
A. I should leave an 8 second gap all day to be safe, although fine in 1979 (when i passed my class 1),if we all did that in 21st century Britain we probably would never make any deliveries before it was time to “pull the card.”
B. It was clearly my fault for being on the A414, in the rain and not knowing that that situation would suddenly happen in front of me.
C. Hooting in frustration is a no no.
D. And the 80yr old d***head in the Micra was my responsibility.
I must mention that the camera in the cab does rather make it look like i’m doing 70 everywhere, but you can rest assured that I never exceed 50mph, even on a motorway, (cue more irate posts about driving too slow
I was doing 50 on the approach to the roadworks and then slowed to 40 along with everyone else. As mentioned, I DID stop, I DID have it all under control and it was no great tragedy.
I post this with tongue firmly in cheek, knowing that on open roads elsewhere I am cut up by more HGVs “cutting in” than any other vehicle in any other circumstance.
Respect to all who replied
Suggest you take all that list and show it to the law when you show them video.
Saaamon:
So you post a video up on youtube complaining about another driver, then come on here to ■■■■■ about it, yet you were sitting far to close to the car infront given the conditions and the weight of your lorry…
obviously not too close… he stopped didnt he?
^^This
If you stop and not hit anything, how can you possibly be too close.
After watching the vid, I’d say he was fine
For the simple reason he only just stopped.What if things had happened quicker which was quite possible then he would not have stopped.
Why will drivers not realise what a safe distance is till it is too late?
He didn’t stop at all because if you look at the video closely the car he was following actually effectively took ROG’s advice probably because it’s driver already knew that he had a truck travelling too close behind long before the idiot in the Micra did anything.Luckily for all concerned the idiot who turned right in lane 1 wasn’t stopped from doing so by traffic in lane 2.Yeah right it would be interesting to see what happens if he takes the above advice which says show the video to the law.
Stop being so pedantic.Yes I know he did not actually stop but you know what I meant.(I think )
If you find out the reg then pay the money to the DVLA who will willingly give you the details of the person who owns the car for a small fee despite it being against the basic interest of the Data Protection Act (just send a copy of the film to them stating you need their address as you are a road safety officer) and then send the car owner a copy with a letter stating you have sent the film to Police in order to have them prosecuted for CD30 : Driveing without due care and attection or without consideration for other road users. Also state that you will push for the full 9 points to be dished out due to the dangerous nature of the stupid manouvre.
As for being ‘too close’ he wasn’t. He didn’t hit anything in front of him in the event so how can he be too close. It’s like my argument that if a load isn’t strapped then how can Vosa do you for having an unsafe load when the load is still in the same position it was loaded.
Kerbdog:
If you find out the reg then pay the money to the DVLA who will willingly give you the details of the person who owns the car for a small fee despite it being against the basic interest of the Data Protection Act (just send a copy of the film to them stating you need their address as you are a road safety officer) and then send the car owner a copy with a letter stating you have sent the film to Police in order to have them prosecuted for CD30 : Driveing without due care and attection or without consideration for other road users. Also state that you will push for the full 9 points to be dished out due to the dangerous nature of the stupid manouvre.
As for being ‘too close’ he wasn’t. He didn’t hit anything in front of him in the event so how can he be too close. It’s like my argument that if a load isn’t strapped then how can Vosa do you for having an unsafe load when the load is still in the same position it was loaded.
I think you really need to think about what you have just posted.I realise there are some jokers on here but I have a horrible feeling you are serious.God help us all.
Saaamon:
So you post a video up on youtube complaining about another driver, then come on here to ■■■■■ about it, yet you were sitting far to close to the car infront given the conditions and the weight of your lorry…
obviously not too close… he stopped didnt he?
^^This
If you stop and not hit anything, how can you possibly be too close.
After watching the vid, I’d say he was fine
For the simple reason he only just stopped.What if things had happened quicker which was quite possible then he would not have stopped.
Why will drivers not realise what a safe distance is till it is too late?
He didn’t stop at all because if you look at the video closely the car he was following actually effectively took ROG’s advice probably because it’s driver already knew that he had a truck travelling too close behind long before the idiot in the Micra did anything.Luckily for all concerned the idiot who turned right in lane 1 wasn’t stopped from doing so by traffic in lane 2.Yeah right it would be interesting to see what happens if he takes the above advice which says show the video to the law.
Stop being so pedantic.Yes I know he did not actually stop but you know what I meant.(I think )
I do know what you meant but there are two seperate issues of which you’ve described only one.
In this case what really matters is that the probable outcome would have been a lot different ‘if’ the car in front of the truck hadn’t been able to keep going through on the inside for whatever reason and had to stop or had even hit the car which had turned in front of it.The fact is all those who say that he wasn’t too close seem to have missed the fact that the truck didn’t actually stop at all because the car in front of it managed to keep going which in all probability is all that saved the driver of the truck from running into the car in front which had nothing whatsoever to do with and regardless of what the driver of the Nissan Micra did…
In just the same way that if a someone stops or does something stupid on a motorway,for whatever reason,causing a multi vehicle pile up,the blame won’t just stop with the lead vehicle which started it all.The fact remains the driver of the Nissan Micra didn’t actually do anything which should have affected the safe stopping of the truck.In which case there would have been no implications for the truck in this example whatsoever because it all would/should have happened a long way in front of the truck which then would/should have been slowed down maintaining seperation all the time just as ‘should’ have happened within the roadworks situation but which didn’t for similar reasons.IE failure to maintain seperation distance in slowing traffic ahead.
Hang on here WHO was in the wrong ,the p***k in the car or the lorry driver.There seems to be so many so called lorry drivers on here quick to slag of the rest of us.the OP was pointing out what we all have to put up with every day on the road.HAVE A WORD WITH YOURSELVES DRIVERS
Kerbdog:
If you find out the reg then pay the money to the DVLA who will willingly give you the details of the person who owns the car for a small fee despite it being against the basic interest of the Data Protection Act (just send a copy of the film to them stating you need their address as you are a road safety officer) and then send the car owner a copy with a letter stating you have sent the film to Police in order to have them prosecuted for CD30 : Driveing without due care and attection or without consideration for other road users. Also state that you will push for the full 9 points to be dished out due to the dangerous nature of the stupid manouvre.
As for being ‘too close’ he wasn’t. He didn’t hit anything in front of him in the event so how can he be too close. It’s like my argument that if a load isn’t strapped then how can Vosa do you for having an unsafe load when the load is still in the same position it was loaded.
I think you really need to think about what you have just posted.I realise there are some jokers on here but I have a horrible feeling you are serious.God help us all.[/quote
comet:
Hang on here WHO was in the wrong ,the p***k in the car or the lorry driver.There seems to be so many so called lorry drivers on here quick to slag of the rest of us.the OP was pointing out what we all have to put up with every day on the road.HAVE A WORD WITH YOURSELVES DRIVERS
Ok so as I said some idiot driving a Nissan Micra decides to stop dead in lane 1 of a motorway for no reason whatsoever.The car behind it just manages to stop in time or even runs into it.The truck behind that car then runs into the back of that car and the truck behind that truck runs into the back of that one crushing a car that was travelling between them.Who would be to blame for all that .
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