Franglais:
“Intentional homicide is defined by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) in its Global Study on Homicide report[10] thus:
Within the broad range of violent deaths, the core element of intentional homicide is the complete liability of the direct perpetrator, which thus excludes killings directly related to war or conflicts, self-inflicted death (suicide), killings due to legal interventions or justifiable killings (such as self-defence), and those deaths caused when the perpetrator was reckless or negligent but did not intend to take a human life (non-intentional homicide).”
From the link I posted, to the stats I quoted.
Japan is a very densely populated country with big cities.
It has a homicide rate of
…0.20…way less than the UK or USA.
Cities are not in themselves an apparent cause.
But if you say that a disaffected underclass, in any unjust society may tend to congregate in cities…?
That may be so, but the cities aren`t the cause, the society is.
Yes. Stats can be bent to fit a cause, (as all tools can be used for good or ill) so we must look closely at them.
Hyh:
If we could remove the homicides from the figures from London and all comparable large cities in America and then look at the stats, they might tell a different story.
Stats can be chosen to tell a story, just as you want to above.
THE UNODC also massage their figures. They aren’t an enforcing body in any nation in regards to criminal law, so their source of figures could be called into question as they’ll be via third party sources, which can always present “grey areas” open to interpretation.
Stats can be massaged in many different ways - My comment you replied on, would in effect discount large cities from statistics to see if the problem is mainly in big major cities or if it is everywhere - Nothing wrong with looking at specific areas under the microscope to see if there are any telling issues that could go towards suggesting a solution
My comment about cities was how many share socio-economic issues, not about the population size - If you consider Tokyo, the demographic and income is very different to London or New York. Japan has a very different culture compared to the UK or the US. You might as well include Ushuaia if you wish to cover cities that are completely different to Western cities with vastly different violent crime problems
Keeping things slightly more relevant to the West, perhaps it would be worth looking at how Switzerland deals with knife crime, if such a thing exists, since their population is also well armed as a %. Prague to an extent is similar in the Czech Republic with, arguably, the most relaxed firearms laws in the EU
Murder being illegal isn’t preventing knife crime deaths, making having a knife on your person illegal isn’t working, so why do people think extra laws will work ?
)
