How would You stop knife crime?

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i got to thinking this after somebody backed into my old ladys car and she was so upset at what he said “stoopid woman blah blah” , i was at work when she called to report it all and my 1st thought was “im goin to kill that bugger,with a knife”.

luckily i wasnt there and by time i got home the moment had passed . This has led me onto thinking,if i had a govt role,how would i put a stop to knives in the community.How would You?
Everybody could be made to go on a days knife awareness course every year, how bout that? it would be a hands on course where you stick a retractable knife into someone who then screams/dies and somebody plays a policeman and you get put into a cell and so on, roleplay. would it work?

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5 years prison if caught with a knife. 10 years if caught a second time. 20 years if caught a 3rd time.
Stab somebody and they die then its 50 years prison with no parole…if they survive then its 25 yeras prison no parole.
Simple.

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In my opinion stabbing is glorified too much in films. There is no consequence for actions. Whether it be a zombie or John Wick.

Having watched a few Police documentaries where they show stabbings, often it’s done with a frenzy and multiple times. It’s a bit like fights. In my day, a fight was over when one person hit the deck or run away. Now someone hits the deck and some little ■■■■ will either stamp on the head or kick it like a football. What’s that all about?

Skinny little runt hit my car a couple of years ago. When I challenged him ( bearing in mind I’m 6.3 and 19st) he went into a rage and started fronting me. I’m the wrong side of 50 now and the fact he wasn’t intimidated made me think he was either high or was going to pull a knife or worse. I chose to walk away. What would have happened had I piled in.

Scarey times.

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Some Somali’s reckon their kids are safer back there than London,that’s what happens when the doors open to mass immigration of people from country’s where,life’s cheap,there’s no intention to adopt to British life,not just somalis, that’s just an example,any immigrant found guilty of serious violent crime,is deported,and their family
Any one convicted of knife,gun,crime,assault on police or serious assault is birched,along with a prison sentence which involves hard time,not the current,keep them quiet,tv,weights,doing what they want

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A days awareness course. Get real. There would be a bigger uproar than getting sent on a DCPC course . Why should everyone be sent because of a very small minority of people that can’t control themselves properly?

Simple solution guaranteed to work. CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

FIRST OFFENCE 20 strokes of the birch.

SECOND OFFENCE. PUT TO DEATH BY HANGING.

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corij:
my 1st thought was “im goin to kill that bugger,with a knife”.

:open_mouth: Seriously?..that was your FIRST thought? :open_mouth:

Not being funny mate, but if you’re being serious I’d be having a word with myself.

There is nobody more impulsive than me, and I’m the most protective towards my family type of bloke you’ll ever meet.
I have zero tolerance to d/heads, I’ve had many confrontational scenarios as a young lad…I was even sent on an anger management programme ffs. :neutral_face:

But NEVER have I ever considered stabbing someone, and certainly never as a first option. :neutral_face:

Anyhow, as long as we have the right on liberal lefties having a say in the law…NOTHING will happen, maybe apart from some non substance scheme to pacify the majority of the country.
As said, start by deporting those basts who can not behave themselves in our country.
Our own home grown gang scum?..instant jail for a long long time, and as a ‘punishment’ not focusing as much on ‘rehabilitation’… I don’t give a ■■■■ if they will not be ‘‘rehabilitated’’ whatever you do they never will be :bulb: …just get these dregs off the streets.

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I’d walk round with various sized corks and when presented with someone wishing to stab me I’d pop the appropriatly sized cork on the end.

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toonsy:
I’d walk round with various sized corks and when presented with someone wishing to stab me I’d pop the appropriatly sized cork on the end.

A cunning plan. Have filled my pockets with cork as I type

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Knife crime is prevelent, within the black community, so this tells us something.

As others have said and keep saying the death penalty needs to be considered very much, but the political people who run our country won’t entertain,this vote as they think it’s not relavent to modern society, even tho the public would vote Yes, and we know what happened with the last referendum.

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biggriffin:
Knife crime is prevelent, within the black community, so this tells us something.

As others have said and keep saying the death penalty needs to be considered very much, but the political people who run our country won’t entertain,this vote as they think it’s not relavent to modern society, even tho the public would vote Yes, and we know what happened with the last referendum.

That’s the problem…the minority prevails in this country.
The last general election cured that this time for once, and finally shut the minority up…ie the last referendum you’re on about.
In the case of the death penalty and harsh punishments that would work…won’t happen.

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Having grown up on council estates, served my time in borstal, and then gone into the murky world of trauma rectification I can honestly say this country has TRUELY become a sess pit since the millennium.

And its very simple to see why, yet far too long winded to explain, so I’ll digress it into a bite size if I can…

There’s a book about, it’s an old one and it was written as a guide for humanity on how we should be trying to do things together.
It received its knowledge via a man who chose to travel and seek opinions/input/advice/enlightenment from other cultures, civilizations, belief systems and other WISE MEN in the hope that when all were mixed together it would be able to have a common ground for us all to stand from, like the Muslim lads did with math, they took the world’s collective knowledge and made it a universal language that we all use today…

I put it like this, these fellas gave us a ‘sing from the same sheet’ masterpiece, yet hmmm it seems we are not as somewhere along the line the word ‘religion’ got involved and folks said oh no no no I won’t be choosing a side or path…

Yet the book did not say you had too, as there was no path to choose as RELIGION did not exist, religion is man made… (see an issue there too, which the book mentions…)…the book is written in FAITH.

Now bearing in mind I’ve mentioned it states that it’s not a good idea for MANKIND to dabble with the fundamentals of the book, its seems very strange that since he has we’re all living in the plagues it foretold… Its simply the costumes are different.

I digress, it along with many other texts foretold the downfall we see now but we chose to ignore it, which it also foretold we would do, and as a planet it seems fairly obvious, well to those of us who ain’t been indoctrinated before the sheep start bleeting either that we as a planet have lost our hym sheet and now we’re really seeing the fruits of our labour, sadly too many folk use this GOD bloke as the excuse to ignore the obvious… (again spot the deliberately foretold on that point in the book too…)…
And now as they say ‘we’re reaping what thy have sown’…

This could go on all day but again makind has not got the ability to endure the stamina needed… (that book, and its cousins foretold on that one too…) to actually use the brain for its intended, so…

I’ll leave this point here to Ponder…

Anyone ever wondered why x amount of the brain is apparently dorement?

Why we use just one tiny seed from the bag, never noting that the very bag itself is the key to abundent seeds…

Now ask yourself why it takes years to read the Bible properly, then lob in a read of the Quaran and its subsidiarys, a mission there…
Now lob in say the Druid teachings, and pick as many other grapes of teaching as you wish and all of a sudden we need alot of space to process and store the gold we SHOULD BE paning out and filling our empty bags with.

Yet many simply only want the seed they got out the bag, bin the bag onto the next.
They want the seed to do one thing, and again the book warns about that greedy/ignorant/selfish/glutenous/vile/deceitful/lustful/poisonous train of thought, but no, on we sow in blind ignorance…

Alas, that’s me done. [emoji38]

And no, before you ask I don’t door knock unless it’s for work or ■■■ [emoji16]

But I do believe that a simple look to the motto of our cousins in a certain part of Europe does definitely show that we’re all in serious need of adopting it, and growing a pair with regards to our own SHEEP esp the ones we breed!!!

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P Stoff:

toonsy:
I’d walk round with various sized corks and when presented with someone wishing to stab me I’d pop the appropriatly sized cork on the end.

A cunning plan. Have filled my pockets with cork as I type

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It’s the unexpected and comedy nature of it. Not only will it prevent a stabbing but it will break down anger and turn it into a more comedic affair.

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jakethesnake:
A days awareness course. Get real. There would be a bigger uproar than getting sent on a DCPC course . Why should everyone be sent because of a very small minority of people that can’t control themselves properly?

Simple solution guaranteed to work. CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

FIRST OFFENCE 20 strokes of the birch.

SECOND OFFENCE. PUT TO DEATH BY HANGING.

A few weeks ago in Uxbridge a kid got stabbed (and died) it happened in the civic centre, he was attending a knife awareness course !!

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A guy in the US got released after 36 years last year. Under an early three strikes law he was given life without parole for robbing a bakery of $50. He had a knife, but didn’t cause any injuries.

theguardian.com/us-news/201 … sed-prison

Deterrent sentences don’t seem to work, possibly because the young offenders aren’t aware of them at the time of the offence?

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knife means life.
adopt that poiicy ,build more prisons lock them up using a chocolate key using the money saved from social services,counsellors,liberal doo gooders,rehabilitation programs,tree huggers and vegetarian whale kissers as there would be no need for them.

in the 1960s in glasgow the razor gangs got so bad the started giving them sentences to cure or kill which instantly stopped a lot of the trouble though as the novelty wore off its always went back to being almost just as bad.
deterrents work if you use the big stick but its no balls britain so just lie back and let the scummys win.

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Noremac:
theguardian.com/us-news/201 … sed-prison

Deterrent sentences don’t seem to work, possibly because the young offenders aren’t aware of them at the time of the offence?

Rubbish, that’s just leftie talk, do yourself a favour and stop reading the Guardian :slight_smile:

If someone’s streetwise enough to arm themselves and commit a robbery then they know the potential consequences, they’re just not planning on getting caught. Some people will be put off by the potential consequences and not offend, those who aren’t get jailed for a long time where they cannot reoffend, win win.

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corij:
how would i put a stop to knives in the community.How would You?
Everybody could be made to go on a days knife awareness course every year, how bout that?

Out of all the Internet forums you could have posed a query about solving knife crime, you choose the one frequented by fat, uneducated working class oafs.
This is going to be comedy gold.
Biscuit anyone?

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chester:
you choose the one frequented by fat, UNEDUCATED working class oafs.

Comedy gold indeed. A troll with no sense of irony who’d require a spellchecker to correctly print its own name.

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Since 2010 the Tories have cut 21,000 police and half the magistrates courts in the country have been shut. What did everyone think would happen?

London where most of the stabbings are taking place had Boris Johnson as Mayor, cutting and closing police stations as he went…

As I have said before I am a life long Tory voter up until the last election, so I do indeed bear a bit of responsibility for that unfortunately.

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the maoster:

chester:
you choose the one frequented by fat, UNEDUCATED working class oafs.

Comedy gold indeed. A troll with no sense of irony who’d require a spellchecker to correctly print its own name.

Why would I want to invest in a spellchecker, when I can just simply carry on employing you to verify my posts.
Seriously mate you shouldn’t worry about punctuation that much, it’s not that big a deal.