The Land rovers supplied to the HA are not as expensive as the retail discovery’s, they get a down graded model with not as many bells and whistles on as a standard showroom model
Defenders how ever would probably be around or close to the same price as they cant be downgraded as easy as they are preety dog standard to start with
So you might find the discovery is cheaper to buy than a defender in the HA’s eyes
This was my point. I understand that the requirement was the 4x4’s had to be auto. They wont get 50 odd Defenders re done to have auto boxes.
Big Jase:
I understand that the requirement was the 4x4’s had to be auto.
Quite correct. When you turn up at an incident (or indeed leave it) you already needs extra hands for the lights, radio, VMS (variable message panel etc. so auto is a must.
Regards acceleration, as has been said, live lane incidents have to be taken into account but even on the shoulder it is fine to take your time when here is 3 miles between junctions but what about when w have little shoulder to work with the M60 around Manchester springs to mind.,
Comfort over a long day is also important. Those driving a modern unit might say so what but would you like to go back to the comfort of a 70’s Foden 
Discopete:
So you might find the discovery is cheaper to buy than a defender in the HA’s eyes
The resale price is likely to be higher as well making the cost, over the time with the HA, even more attractive. Isn’t that why so few fleets run with day cabs and the supermarket fleets are sleepers? Of course threy could be leased and with bulk discount that could be cheaper still.
Joking aren’t you the disco’s rangies and freelanders depreciate quite quickly .
The defenders hold a strong market …
You could buy a brand new disco and a brand new defender and the defender will have the strongest money in the second hand market when you come to sell them.
At least look into markets before passing comment on them …
My defender 10 years old 300 tdi worth about 6-7 k
Discovery of the same vintage worth about 1,5-3 k if it’s in good shape .
That same rule applies with the newer models .
Has it got to the point that the only way to slate us now ,is to go on about the vehicles we drive.Vehicles which with have no say about and are not even asked our opinions towards them.They even employed consultants to tell them about ergonomics and surprise,surprise,the result was we had been telling them from the start.
So,if you want to slate us,please slate us about something we’ve done,or something we have a say in.
Or better still,when you see us in a truckstop,or m/way services re-fuelling,just talk to us.You might just be surprised.
extrucker:
Has it got to the point that the only way to slate us now ,is to go on about the vehicles we drive.Vehicles which with have no say about and are not even asked our opinions towards them…
we’re not having a go at you, we’re just having a go a go at crappy disco’s !!
it’s what all defender owners do! 
and fwiw there is no comparison between a LR and a 70’s Foden ! 
Wiretwister:
Discopete:
So you might find the discovery is cheaper to buy than a defender in the HA’s eyesThe resale price is likely to be higher as well making the cost, over the time with the HA, even more attractive. Isn’t that why so few fleets run with day cabs and the supermarket fleets are sleepers? Of course threy could be leased and with bulk discount that could be cheaper still.
A bit off topic but I love the fact that we get sleeper cabs because of a finance consideration. I was asked to drive a MAN class 2 recently and it had not only a day cab but a spartan layout that was about 10 years behind the MAN units, on similar 55ish plates. I know it’s probably been worked out that rigids don’t go as far or something but I think it’s unfair that a usually tiring multi drop job is rewarded with a gear stick up your bum when you want a nap. Think I’ve only ever seen 1 non drawbar Magnum rigid. 
Longman:
. Think I’ve only ever seen 1 non drawbar Magnum rigid.
saw one today on the A30 
Denis F:
Longman:
. Think I’ve only ever seen 1 non drawbar Magnum rigid.saw one today on the A30
Looks mad doesn’t it? Taller than it’s long almost. 
Denis F:
extrucker:
Has it got to the point that the only way to slate us now ,is to go on about the vehicles we drive.Vehicles which with have no say about and are not even asked our opinions towards them…we’re not having a go at you, we’re just having a go a go at crappy disco’s !!
it’s what all defender owners do!
What denis said , Disco’s are for old people with pipes and slippers and stuff …
It’s not having a go , It’s ribbing
Longman:
Denis F:
Longman:
. Think I’ve only ever seen 1 non drawbar Magnum rigid.saw one today on the A30
Looks mad doesn’t it? Taller than it’s long almost.
assuming you mean the black one that carries horses, yes
saw it at Truckfest a couple of years ago
paul@midway:
Disco’s are for old people with pipes and slippers and stuff …
Wrong!!! They are full of noise and rowdy young 'uns.
Rocking chairs are for old folk with pipes and slippers and mine rocks real nice, thank you very much!
Denis F:
Longman:
Denis F:
Longman:
. Think I’ve only ever seen 1 non drawbar Magnum rigid.saw one today on the A30
Looks mad doesn’t it? Taller than it’s long almost.
assuming you mean the black one that carries horses, yes
saw it at Truckfest a couple of years ago
No this one was pulling into Trowell services couple of years back, white cab, blue tilt body. I thought it was going to topple over. 
Longman:
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No this one was pulling into Trowell services couple of years back, white cab, blue tilt body. I thought it was going to topple over.
not this one then
Denis F:
not this one then
No, that looks pretty (big!) normal because it’s got the livestock body work and airkit, bit like a removals lorry. The one I saw looked like a marriage of two different lorries, the cab was bouncing on it’s own like Magnums do. Never driven one but reckon I’d get sea sick. Now that you shown that I 'm remembering big Scania horseboxes all gold metallic and Kelsa zooming past at 75. They’re obviously not restricted.
Wow, How off topic■■?
Saw a Magnum rigid with a flat bed tuther day. Looked weird.
I had Chicken and chips for dinner .
There must be something going on. This is the second time I dont quite get what your talking about.
I reckon your just not funny. Sorry, just my thoughts.
Off topic and random subject I think he means.