Tubbysboy:
Or another idea robroy.
Perhaps the bloke needs to work a bit harder when he can. Make hay while the sun shines
Perhaps he ain’t as lucky as you ?
Perhaps his firm will weigh on for the fine, as using the old Irish / north Essex mentality, if ones been nicked the rest are good to go.
Pehaps his companies customers are no brained university logistic magicians who ain’t got a clue, hence his boss and in turn the driver has to jog on a bit when needed.
Not all as easy as you think rob. I like your posts, until you start on the all bosses are fools and slavedrivers. We are all in the same boat. We do what we have to to earn a
shilling.
Also we all have to remember what we’ve done in the past when needs must. In far worse motors and far worst “offences” than what this chap has done.
1…Nothing wrong with working harder at all mate, but you appear to equate ‘working harder’ with working illegally, which is an entire different ball game.
So where does the cut off as working harder ie over your time, cross the line from ok to unacceptable in your world?
10 mins,1 hour,.2 hours, another half shift a full one?
2… Lucky as me? …how do you mean exactly lucky?
I would not do it for a number of reasons, most of which pertain to the self preservation scale, which starts from a heavy fine to doing bird for a more serious offence…no intention of accepting either tbh.
This guy, and many others, just do it willinglly apparentlly, so why does that make me luckier than him.?
Luckier? No
More Professional, sensible, not as gullible, ?
Maybe so eh?
3… The customer that you mention?
Those are the tactics of unscrupulous bullying firms. As a driver that would not phase me, it is the operator’s job to deal with that, not the driver’s job to risk his livliehood and licence to meet their unreasonable (and illegal) requirements.
The 80s are history mate, the job has been immensely cleaned up from those days.
If those type of cowboy firms still exist in your area, they will only use other cowboys to do their work, so who gives a ■■■■ if both parties go ■■■■ up, good riddance to both I say.
So that covers that particular point in a nutshell as far as I’m concerned.
4… I never said I thought things were easy in transport, I have done it for a while now in different genres and both as an operator and a driver, so I fully understand the need for a haulier to give a good service for the sake of competition,… but within the scope of the driver’s hours rules, which must be a stipulation when tendering for that work, if that is not accepted, then that job aint worth doing.
That aint naivety either, it’s an approach that seperates the legitimate companies from unscrupulous ones who go on to abuse their drivers to meet said firms targets.
5…Don’t misquote me or put words in my mouth either, I have NEVER said… ‘‘All bosses are are fools and slavedrivers’’
I was a ‘‘boss’’ myself once, I fully understand that we have to …‘‘Do what we need to earn a shilling’’ it’s the methods used where we are at odds.
It’s the professionalism of planning that determines if a boss is a fool, slavedriver (or both)
The hours now are too much in my opinion, it should be as it was, a 12 and a half spreadover, that is enough for anybody, or should be, AND it DID work once.
If a 15 hour day is not enough for both a driver and an operator in 2017/18 they should sit back and take a look at themselves. (Then we have the derisory 9 hours rest off which bears no relavance to either health OR safety, but that’s another argument for another day)
Also a driver will do more for a fair boss who appreciates him willinglly, if he is being forced to go over his time, then that is abuse and bullying, which needs kicked out of this industry…end of.
5…Yeh we have done far worse in the past, I know I have and have done much worse than this guy has been caught for, trust me on that.
But that’s the operative word the ‘‘Past’’ . 
Going a few minutes over your time now and again happens, but running bent habitually and purposely is the other end of the spectrum, and has no place in the modern haulage industry.
We all know it still exists but I for one will be glad to see anybody put off the road or out of business for it, maybe then we will all be looked upon as professionals.
Hope that answers your points.
) but along with AndrewG, who shares a similar outlook and who is also based in Spain I just wish you could spend 6 months or more over here to see the whole picture when it comes to the good and the bad impacts from EE drivers, it is I suspect, drastically different from the non bordered multi cultural/language tramping that goes on across the rest of Europe.