HGV stopped at Thornham over hours

Couple of points

  1. Only the officers who dealt with the driver will know how many offences in 28 days this driver had.

  2. To get a £300 fine for a 4th reduction it would of had to of been less than 9 hours taken, so its not just a few minutes off an 11. (Its banded as less than 11, more than 10=£100, less than 10, more than 9 =£200, less than 9=£300). Some companies are known for excessive hours so a “friendly word” is pointless.

  3. Those extra 9 hours driving is the equivalent of an extra days work, run like that all year and that’s an extra 26 days work, while those who observe the rules are at home. How many loads has he taken off a UK haulier working like this??

  4. Yes I think the CPC in its current format is a joke.

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Traffic Rat:
Couple of points

  1. Only the officers who dealt with the driver will know how many offences in 28 days this driver had.

  2. To get a £300 fine for a 4th reduction it would of had to of been less than 9 hours taken, so its not just a few minutes off an 11. (Its banded as less than 11, more than 10=£100, less than 10, more than 9 =£200, less than 9=£300). Some companies are known for excessive hours so a “friendly word” is pointless.

  3. Those extra 9 hours driving is the equivalent of an extra days work, run like that all year and that’s an extra 26 days work, while those who observe the rules are at home. How many loads has he taken off a UK haulier working like this??

  4. Yes I think the CPC in its current format is a joke.

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To the tower with him directly then

Obviously a lunatic burning up the motorways and autoroutes of Europe…

Or perhaps, just perhaps, a chap who has to move his arse a bit more rapid than usual before Christmas time in order to keep up with the current over demand for transport.

As now no big logistic companies or supermarkets or warehouses keep enough stock.

Clearly the drivers fault. Burn him on a stake fashioned out of a satsuma tree.

Or, another idea, let the chap and his company make a few quid while the goings good.

Ban the 24 hour Le Mans. Over the time limit ? Why would anyone (including O>D’s) want to work that hard ?

Tubbysboy:

Traffic Rat:
Couple of points

  1. Only the officers who dealt with the driver will know how many offences in 28 days this driver had.

  2. To get a £300 fine for a 4th reduction it would of had to of been less than 9 hours taken, so its not just a few minutes off an 11. (Its banded as less than 11, more than 10=£100, less than 10, more than 9 =£200, less than 9=£300). Some companies are known for excessive hours so a “friendly word” is pointless.

  3. Those extra 9 hours driving is the equivalent of an extra days work, run like that all year and that’s an extra 26 days work, while those who observe the rules are at home. How many loads has he taken off a UK haulier working like this??

  4. Yes I think the CPC in its current format is a joke.

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To the tower with him directly then

Obviously a lunatic burning up the motorways and autoroutes of Europe…

Or perhaps, just perhaps, a chap who has to move his arse a bit more rapid than usual before Christmas time in order to keep up with the current over demand for transport.

Ill bet a wedge you have nail on head here. Just keeping it lit to get the job done.
Far too many follow like lemmings in a bid to crucify a driver over a minor misdemeanor conveniently forgetting they did 36.5mph in a 30 limit the very same day… :unamused:

If he’d wiped out a family car on the M1 I’m sure many on here wouldn’t be quite so understanding. It’s happened more than once recently.

whiplash:

TiredAndEmotional:

whiplash:
Jeez!
Collect your rocks at the entrance for the public stoning!
As has been pointed out,what are the FULL facts?
On a side note,would a cop have the discretion to say ,“okay,youve done wrong,Im parking you up,no need for further action?”,or is it just jobsworthism?
On a side note,I see one of the responses to the tweet was from some clown (a driver)in Chesterfield,who reckons once Brexit is complete,all this will go away!
What a winker.

He broke the law, was caught and got a fine and a prohibition. Enough facts there for you?

And IF you broke the speed limit by say 1 mph,(and were caught),would you be happy with a fine and points,or maybe try your case with the plod?

1mph, is not the same as numerous breaches of the rules, he would of known clearly, … I do believe some drivers on here have little machines telling them how much rest drive hours etc … he broke the law, would you be defending him, if he had of wrecked a car killed 3 kids and the cops said, we didn’t park him up it was only a minor offence …

No excuses for doing what he did …

If this drivers make mistakes that he must be fined.But in same ttime police talk who they stop near terrorist.Why police not hunting for drivers who not keep correct distance??Who police not check drivers who go over 7.5 tonne restriction or drivers who go in motorway under red cross sign and more???I think police like do just easy job and after put info in twitter.

Another British soft penalty .If they give 900 quid that really company earn not so much less from this 9 hours extra driving and plus if drivers taked correct weekly rest that he may be can lost delivery and get from customer much more penalty.Happy day by British rulles -profit form extra work ,infrigiment much biggest that penalty.

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Conor:

exit:
Let’s not forget you can (i.e. it is possible) to legally drive 114 hours in a 13 day period.

You sure? Love to see how you come to that conclusion given the limit is 90hrs over any 2 weekly period regardless of when you take your weekly rests. Maybe you should take tacho rules as one of your next DCPC modules and read this before then seeing as you don’t have a clue.

gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou … vers-hours

Yep, I’m sure, thanks. Perhaps you’ve been taking too many DCPC tacho rules modules. See here…

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Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

:laughing: I do love a good KO Uncle Dave.

(That’s a knockout, not ’ knocking one out ’ btw…Christ, what have I done?)

eagerbeaver:

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

[emoji38] I do love a good KO Uncle Dave.

(That’s a knockout, not ’ knocking one out ’ btw…Christ, what have I done?)

Me too I’ve just KOO’ d myself, wife was up so ran the tap in the bathroom to hide the final punch screams.

[Apologies to the moderation team, EB has lead me astray again].

Dipper_Dave:

eagerbeaver:

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

[emoji38] I do love a good KO Uncle Dave.

(That’s a knockout, not ’ knocking one out ’ btw…Christ, what have I done?)

Me too I’ve just KOO’ d myself, wife was up so ran the tap in the bathroom to hide the final punch screams.

[Apologies to the moderation team, EB has lead me astray again].

I call them danger tugs :laughing:

Tubbysboy:

Traffic Rat:
Couple of points

  1. Only the officers who dealt with the driver will know how many offences in 28 days this driver had.

  2. To get a £300 fine for a 4th reduction it would of had to of been less than 9 hours taken, so its not just a few minutes off an 11. (Its banded as less than 11, more than 10=£100, less than 10, more than 9 =£200, less than 9=£300). Some companies are known for excessive hours so a “friendly word” is pointless.

  3. Those extra 9 hours driving is the equivalent of an extra days work, run like that all year and that’s an extra 26 days work, while those who observe the rules are at home. How many loads has he taken off a UK haulier working like this??

  4. Yes I think the CPC in its current format is a joke.

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To the tower with him directly then

Obviously a lunatic burning up the motorways and autoroutes of Europe…

Or perhaps, just perhaps, a chap who has to move his arse a bit more rapid than usual before Christmas time in order to keep up with the current over demand for transport.

As now no big logistic companies or supermarkets or warehouses keep enough stock.

Clearly the drivers fault. Burn him on a stake fashioned out of a satsuma tree.

Or, another idea, let the chap and his company make a few quid while the goings good.

Or another idea that particular firm maybe have no regard for the rules, and habitually break the (admittedlly pedantic and overcooked) drivers hours rules every bloody day with their x no of trucks for their own ends. :bulb:

I couldn’t give a flying one btw about the old ‘‘British hauliers losing work’’ aspect chestnut, as I’m just a driver.
Also before anybody jumps in, by no means am I a ‘Mr Perfect never do wrong type’ , I’ve ran bent when it was commonplace, (thank Christ times have changed) and I’ve been pulled and sometimes been done for minor misdemeanours a few times later on.

I’m coming at it from a different angle
ie…I’m more concerned with the pushing and abuse of drivers to achieve near hand impossible schedules set.
Some of these EE guys actually surrender themselves to Vosa as they are being run ragged and paid peanuts.

So to some of you who dissaprove of all this, what do we do?
A drivers hours bending/breaking free for all?
Blind eyes turned by DVSA all the time?.

Yeh brilliant idea, let’s all…‘‘Keep it lit’’ eh? :unamused:
Maybe that phrase applies to the owner drivers which is fair play, and worse the terminally thick minority of Brit employed drivers, who think that 15 hours is not nearly enough, and who allow their firms to abuse them WILLINGLY :open_mouth: :unamused: , because they put up with one sided pay structures designed for just that, pushing, law breaking and abuse, but are a bit to dim to see that, so they happilly work away in ignorant bliss and stupidity.

For the rest of us these badly thought out cluster ■■■■ of drivers hours rules and regs are there on the whole to protect the driver…so to the hard of thinking out there, use them to your advantage!! and don’t criticise when drivers are being protected :bulb:
Even if it is in many case…protecting from themselves.

No apologies to those I’ve offended on this, and if you are offended, tough ■■■■…open your ■■■■ eyes. :bulb:

Traffic Rat:
Those extra 9 hours driving is the equivalent of an extra days work, run like that all year and that’s an extra 26 days work, while those who observe the rules are at home. How many loads has he taken off a UK haulier working like this??

robroy:
I’m coming at it from a different angle
ie…I’m more concerned with the pushing and abuse of drivers to achieve near hand impossible schedules set.
Some of these EE guys actually surrender themselves to Vosa as they are being run ragged and paid peanuts.

I put these two quotes together as they best explain the situation to me. I don’t condone what the driver has done, and feel that it’s right that he’s fined and parked up, but the company has to be dragged over the coals as well otherwise this will just carry on and on.

thats one driver who wont be getting paid for the next couple of months then if what some ee drivers say is true

Tubbysboy:
Evening,

The reason he’s done 99 in a fortnight is simple. In France up to 99 hours the fine iirc is 300 euros. As for 3 reduced rest periods in a week, the poor [zb] was probably made to pull of a loading bay, ship, whatever thus cocking up his rest period…

Also the lorry is from Murcia and is in the uk on the 29 December.

Sure he worked all over crimbo moving fruit up. At prices better than the rest of the year.

900 quid? Can I pay in cash please ?

What a load of fuss over fa. Well done the police / vosa. Hope you choked on a satsuma.

In France from 94 till 104 hours fixed penalty 140 euro.My friend was paid .

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

Unlike you and half the people commenting because I don’t spend all my life in my lorry I have these things called friends and I’m not always in my truck so I can do things like go visit these friends I have on a night instead of laying on the bed in my truck in a layby trying to concentrate on anything else other than the fact I need to take a dump and the only toilet available is behind a bush.

And to answer your comment, if you looked at the post that dumbass linked to the 114hrs was actually spread over THREE SEPARATE WEEKS.

Conor:

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

Unlike you and half the people commenting because I don’t spend all my life in my lorry I have these things called friends and I’m not always in my truck so I can do things like go visit these friends I have on a night instead of laying on the bed in my truck in a layby trying to concentrate on anything else other than the fact I need to take a dump and the only toilet available is behind a bush.

And to answer your comment, if you looked at the post that dumbass linked to the 114hrs was actually spread over THREE SEPARATE WEEKS.

He’s not out yet!

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Conor:

Dipper_Dave:
Yet another thread Conor doesn’t come back to… :wink:

Unlike you and half the people commenting because I don’t spend all my life in my lorry I have these things called friends and I’m not always in my truck so I can do things like go visit these friends I have on a night instead of laying on the bed in my truck in a layby trying to concentrate on anything else other than the fact I need to take a dump and the only toilet available is behind a bush.

And to answer your comment, if you looked at the post that dumbass linked to the 114hrs was actually spread over THREE SEPARATE WEEKS.

But dumbass was 100% correct, yet you questioned it…was does that make you…? :smiley: