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alamcculloch:
Religion has one purpose, to exercise control over the masses.

And because of that reason, it’s also quite convenient for unifying one half of a fracturing empire: that was the idea behind adopting Christianity as the official religion of the empire in 380CE. Thus the (western) Roman empire didn’t die, it simply metamorphosed into the RC church, with all the corruption and debauchery we associate with the Romans.

Credit to Sploom for being dignified in the face of a full-on assault on his original comments, it could have become very unpleasant. Though perhaps he just feels sorry for us heathens, because we’re all going to burn in hell :laughing:

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I know you are joking mate, but having met a few people in my life just like how he comes across on here, rest assured .that is EXACTLY how and what he will be thinking in a smug,.self satisfied arrogant manner.

They never stop for one minute to actually consider the opposing argument, instead they always think they have the upper hand believing ‘‘Everybody else is wrong and I am right’’ despite being continuously shot down in flames in debates, then when they can’t compete with logic and common sense, they then start chucking Bible quotations at you, in an effort to stifle the argument.
I would imagine they are fearing eternal damnation for even daring to doubt what they have been told to believe by whoever introduced them to it before brainwashing them.

In my case,.and to be fair, I spent years considering THEIR side of the argument, but the deeper I got into it, the more preposterous it sounded in the cold light of day.

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alamcculloch:
My tuppence worth, Its part of the human condition to hope for a hereafter. People worshiped the Moon and all sorts of totems long before Jesus Christ and other deities. Did a loving God (all powerful) really sit on his hands while the Jews were being gassed and could he not have blown Titanic a wee bit away from the iceberg. Religion has one purpose, to exercise control over the masses. Go on Youtube an
d look up Super churches, an eye opener.

Yes,He could have prevented all these horrible things just with a wave of His hand but He doesnt.
Imagine if we lived in world where evil was alwsys stopped in its tracks.You couldnt shout or swear at anyone without being stopped.Its something I dont understand fully why God permits evil.It will be explained one day.I suppose another way of looking at it,we humans permit evil too.We are destroying the planet ,for example.We all know we are doing it,so maybe we need to look at ourselves too…

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robroy:
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In my case,.and to be fair, I spent years considering THEIR side of the argument, but the deeper I got into it, the more preposterous it sounded in the cold light of day.

I used to be fairly indulgent of these people, I would even take time out to talk to the JW’s, just for sport. That really paid off entertainment-wise one evening when they turned up with a copy of The Watchtower, inside were some (borrowed) images of DNA replication, mentally I started rubbing my hands in glee.

THEM “Have you seen this? Do you know about this? Isn’t it marvellous” they said thrusting the pages at me.

ME “Yes I have heard about it, we study it at university and, yes it is, quite remarkable indeed, we can even do it in the lab these days with little PCR machines.” They didn’t bite

THEM “It’s so marvellous, it can’t have occured by chance, it’s so perfect.”

ME “Ah well, sorry but no, it’s not at all perfect, there’s a significant rate of mutation, that is, mistakes of incorrect nucelotide inclusion, at every copying event.”

Blank stares from the JW’s

ME “The DNA polymerase enzymes - you do know what an enzyme is don’t you? Well, they make mistakes, about 1 in every 100,000 reactions, which might not sound too bad but with about six billion base pairs - you do know about the A, T, C & G nucleotides don’t you? Adenine, Guanine etc. - that works out at about 120,000 mistakes with every single cell-division! Afterwards the cell tries to repair the mistakes but that just makes it even worse, and… Hey, come back, I hadn’t finished yet!”

It was a longer exchange than just that but you get the picture, it’s not often they are the ones who want to get out of the conversation.
At times after that I would see them from my window, pausing at the end of the drive, checking their list of addresses, then they would walk on by my house :laughing: Blacklisted, marvellous!

In recent years, I had a landlady who had been brought up as a JW, she left the religion after her husband decided that polygamy with her best friend might be fun, and she is now “Disfellowshipped” as they call it.

These nice religious people won’t let her see her own grandchildren, because to them she is, in the literal sense of the word, damned. Such nice, caring, loving people, just like their imaginary friend in the sky…

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As a child starting boarding school away from my home and family I suffered a lot at the hands of these caring people. I was hit over my knuckles regularly with a wooden stick, beaten with a cane accross the palms of my hands until the pain was unbearable. bent over and caned in a public style flogging in front of the whole school as an example. I could go on and on so as anyone can imagine I do not have a lot of time for these people. I was not used to this type of treatment at home and my parents removed me from that school after only 1 term. I was like a different child when I was on leave in the holidays, my parents even took me to counselling as they were so concerned as I became very withdrawn. It has certainly left me with unhappy early childhood memories.

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Sploom:

alamcculloch:
My tuppence worth, Its part of the human condition to hope for a hereafter. People worshiped the Moon and all sorts of totems long before Jesus Christ and other deities. Did a loving God (all powerful) really sit on his hands while the Jews were being gassed and could he not have blown Titanic a wee bit away from the iceberg. Religion has one purpose, to exercise control over the masses. Go on Youtube an
d look up Super churches, an eye opener.

Yes,He could have prevented all these horrible things just with a wave of His hand but He doesnt.
Imagine if we lived in world where evil was alwsys stopped in its tracks.You couldnt shout or swear at anyone without being stopped.Its something I dont understand fully why God permits evil.It will be explained one day.I suppose another way of looking at it,we humans permit evil too.We are destroying the planet ,for example.We all know we are doing it,so maybe we need to look at ourselves too…

Here’s a curveball for ya, you keep referring to ‘He’ how do you know ‘he’ ain’t a ‘she’.or if he/she is a supernatural being does he/she actually have a gender at all ,.as he/she is maybe unique.?
And is he/she actually human?
If he/she is human who was his/her parents…or to use your jargon creator.
If he (I won’t say she.again…you’ve got the idea) is not human what is his origin?
An alien being.?

I know you don’t know any of those answers as it has not been part of the religious curriculum that you have took on board…but what is your own theory?..or are you not allowed to question this sort of stuff in fear of after death reprisals.

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I dont see God as human or having a gender.Nor did anything create Him.He has always existed,now thats very hard to imagine but ,then Im only human,so Im limited in this respect.
I was brought up as a Catholic where they told uz Mary was the mother of God.All wrong,God doesnt have a mother because He has always existed,and is outside of time and space and also the creator of time and space too

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Sploom:
I dont see God as human or having a gender.Nor did anything create Him.He has always existed,now thats very hard to imagine but ,then Im only human,so Im limited in this respect.
I was brought up as a Catholic where they told uz Mary was the mother of God.All wrong,God doesnt have a mother because He has always existed,and is outside of time and space and also the creator of time and space too

I am wishing you a Happy New Year and the sentiment Each to his own.

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Sploom:
I dont see God as human or having a gender.Nor did anything create Him.He has always existed,now thats very hard to imagine but ,then Im only human,so Im limited in this respect.
I was brought up as a Catholic where they told uz Mary was the mother of God.All wrong,God doesnt have a mother because He has always existed,and is outside of time and space and also the creator of time and space too

Nobody or thing has ‘‘Always existed’’ mate,.that is just plain ridiculous.
Every thing you can think of has an origin by it’s very state and nature, one second there is nothing the next second it is there in simplified terms, by whatever process,.either being born, or the origin of growth, build or creation.

And are you now telling us that you are selective in believing what you are told?
So what other part of your religious education has been disbelieved by you in favour of your own theory?
I thought everything they told you was gospel,…literally. :smiley: and the ‘Word of God’'?
Are you telling us you disbelieve God? :open_mouth:
Surely not.

So he created time and space also eh?
So what was there before that, and the period before that presumably had no time?
Please explain (preferably in modern non rhetorical language and no use of quotes)

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As a Christian fundamentalist,I dont follow catholicism,JW,church of eng,and so on.I only follow the written word of God in scripture.
I was held in the chains of the Roman church all through my childhood and I was glad to reject the teachings of catholicism,for example,they tell their followers to pray to Mary and the “saints”.This teaching is contrary to what the Bible says,which is to pray only to God.

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Sounds very much like Dr Who

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Sploom:
As a Christian fundamentalist,I dont follow catholicism,JW,church of eng,and so on.I only follow the written word of God in scripture.
I was held in the chains of the Roman church all through my childhood and I was glad to reject the teachings of catholicism,for example,they tell their followers to pray to Mary and the “saints”.This teaching is contrary to what the Bible says,which is to pray only to God.

I think it is you that is taking the mick out of us all on here mate. I for one am not falling for what you are saying.

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I dont mean to,honestly.It is a serious subject and Im just answering the questions that were put to mr

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Sploom:
I dont mean to,honestly.It is a serious subject and Im just answering the questions that were put to mr

OK well I think you are handling yourself extremely well although your answers are very vague

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Sploom:
As a Christian fundamentalist…I only follow the written word of God in scripture.

Christian Fundamentalist? :open_mouth: It’s worse than I thought, you guys are scarier than a regiment of Waffen-SS off their heads on Pervitin (methamphetamine / crystal meth).
amusingplanet.com/2020/05/p … -■■■■.html

You guys are the kind of people who wanted to ban Buffy the Vampire Slayer in case “children got into The Occult”, and who put Judas Priest on trial in America for alleged subliminal suicide messages recorded backwards into their (vinyl) albums.
This is the full story
youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4EFThO1e4

This shorter version sums it up - “I asked for a peppermint” :laughing:
youtube.com/watch?v=s4cVD_0q9NI

Didn’t work out so well :laughing:

“The written word of God in scriptures”? What? That fluid collection of “books” that were actively selected to be “the word of God”. Written by a bunch of men (and one woman) over a vast stretch of time, and always after the event.

With regard to the New Testament, stories told by people who spoke Aramaic, written down in Hebrew, later translated first into Greek, then into Latin then centuries later translated into old-style English (and other European languages) and these days “translated” into various forms of more modern language.

How can there be ONE written word of God when there are (currently) at least eight different modern versions of it?
(King James Version, New King James Version, New International Version, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Good News Bible, Revised Standard Version, New Living Translation etc etc).

Even if there was only one “correct” collection of Fairy Tales, have you not seen the list of conflicting information just between the four main gospels alone?

A religious person I once knew (quite a senior person in his particular brand of delusion), when I said him it was all far too irrational for a logical person to believe, he confided that “You have to make yourself believe…”

Since then I’ve understood religious people much better, it is clearly a form of mental illness that is actively sanctioned by society.

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Zac_A:

Sploom:
As a Christian fundamentalist…I only follow the written word of God in scripture.

Christian Fundamentalist? :open_mouth: It’s worse than I thought, you guys are scarier than a regiment of Waffen-SS off their heads on Pervitin (methamphetamine / crystal meth).
amusingplanet.com/2020/05/p … -■■■■.html

You guys are the kind of people who wanted to ban Buffy the Vampire Slayer in case “children got into The Occult”, and who put Judas Priest on trial in America for alleged subliminal suicide messages recorded backwards into their (vinyl) albums.
This is the full story
youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4EFThO1e4

This shorter version sums it up - “I asked for a peppermint” :laughing:
youtube.com/watch?v=s4cVD_0q9NI

Didn’t work out so well :laughing:

“The written word of God in scriptures”? What? That fluid collection of “books” that were actively selected to be “the word of God”. Written by a bunch of men (and one woman) over a vast stretch of time, and always after the event.

With regard to the New Testament, stories told by people who spoke Aramaic, written down in Hebrew, later translated first into Greek, then into Latin then centuries later translated into old-style English (and other European languages) and these days “translated” into various forms of more modern language.

How can there be ONE written word of God when there are (currently) at least eight different modern versions of it?
(King James Version, New King James Version, New International Version, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Good News Bible, Revised Standard Version, New Living Translation etc etc).

Even if there was only one “correct” collection of Fairy Tales, have you not seen the list of conflicting information just between the four main gospels alone?

A religious person I once knew (quite a senior person in his particular brand of delusion), when I said him it was all far too irrational for a logical person to believe, he confided that “You have to make yourself believe…”

Since then I’ve understood religious people much better, it is clearly a form of mental illness that is actively sanctioned by society.

I live next door to a retired Minister, He is a horrible little man. He told me that the good book isnt to be taken literally. Make of that what you will.

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alamcculloch:
I live next door to a retired Minister, He is a horrible little man. He told me that the good book isnt to be taken literally. Make of that what you will.

They are in the whole horrible people mate. The quote of not to be taken literally says it all to me.

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Biggest health risks I have encountered are the seats in a Tesco RDC, toilets and waiting room in a Sainsbury’s RDC or some of the cabs left by other drivers

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Christian FundaMENTALISTS…clue is in the name I reckon. :bulb:
As somebody just said, Waffen SS is a good analogy, go as far as to say Totenkopfverband Division in terms of fanaticism…
They make Jehovah’s witnesses look tame.

From what I gather these guys are Premier League and a little south of Waco in terms of severity.

I ain’t having a personal pop at our friend (much :slight_smile: ) I just find these type of religious cults at the best totally mad,.and at the worst ■■■■ dangerous.
No doubt based on what they see as all good, but not entirely healthy to one’s well being.

Again it’s the children I feel sorry for who are continuously exposed to all the propaganda, it just ain’t right imo,.although I very much doubt if these people can see, or even consider that. :unamused:

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Its a good thing to be concerned about children being brainwashed.A good place to look would be the TV.And their favourite movies.
Looking back,I was influenced a lot by what was on TV,even thoigh it might be hard to admit it.