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[robroy]

Sploom:
Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.

If you seek God and ask Him to reveal Himself to you,He will.

But,I think you dont want to,or you have barriers up to this.I dont know,Im only guessing here but now you will say Im preaching to you,or trying to force my beliefs on you,and so on…

Oh,I forgot.Here is a video I like to show people when I am evangelizing
fathersloveletter.com/

Mate seriously, you are continuing to come across as a typical religious nut (meant in the nicest way possiblly)
You are always looking for that ■■■■■ in the armour, always looking at people as a challenge to convert, always going with what you see as a light at the end of your tunnel,…A pound shop evangelist.

I’ve been using football to analogise this stuff in simplistic terms , it’s a good metaphor in this case,.and I suppose it is my version of a religion…very loosely speaking I stress.

I follow my team with a passion,.I love my club,.I run.a very small part of my life around football games, aye I know ,.sad as ■■■■ to some who don’t get the game, but that’s the way I am.

My Mrs is a part time sufferer in all this (a bit of an ott description but you know what I mean) she has to check with me before a holiday date is planned,.we’ve walked miles in many holiday resorts in the past looking for bars that show my team’s game on the day, …including our honeymoon.
It’s a passion with me…but NOT a way of life.
That is the difference.

So…unlike your type of person (of which I have met many in my life) I am not totally obsessed,.I do not run my ENTIRE life around it,.I do not put it first over everything else I do not brainwash my kids with it to the point of encroaching and interfering with their lives,.and manipulating them into a code of life that they would not NATURALLY take.

I do not take every opportunity to convert others I fully accept that they either have their own teams or can’t stand football,.and I make no effort to try and change them.

Sorry mate but I look upon people like yourself as being dangerous, what you see as good, I see as a mild sort of evil,.you are trying to stop people taking natural paths in life in favour of a misguided criteria of what you see as ‘good’…it ain’t !.

You will try at every opportunity to bring mundane subjects around to religion…by your own admission you say you spark off conversations about it to your co drivers ffs…captive audience or what?

To get back to my grandparents,.they helped bring me up well, they were religious people, they encouraged me to go to Sunday school etc,.what they did NOT do is influence me to their own ends, get into my brain, or try to change me into some mindless clinically thinking robot.
As I got older they accepted that I was not going to be like them in that respect, they didn’t ‘‘banish me into damnation’’ (or any other madcap dramatic religious phrase you can think if, and often use )we got on really well,.and I still respect them after they are long gone.

So on reflection they did influence me, but not in a bad way,.and despite the religion, not because of it.

So with me mate those barriers are there as you correctly say, but not because I have any element of doubt that you can work on, but because I can not be convinced of something that I know is not true.

Best stick with Yorkshire Tramper to become your latest victim,.he’s showing signs of doubt, by some of his terminology,.discussing Gid as if he believes he exists,.,… as I’m sure you have jumped on like a randy mongrel on a pedigree poodle, but there lies the difference between him and me.

Keep spreading the word mate, but your deffo barking up the wrong tree in my direction.

ND says he’s an agnostic…a window of opportunity for progress there I reckon.

He may even be a dyslexic agnostic,.spends his time pondering whether or not there is a ‘‘DOG’’.

I need to have a word with myself about these long winded Winseer esque posts I’m churning out lately btw.
But it’s an indication of how much you are starting to ■■■■ me off about all this crap.
So in a way you HAVE succeeded into getting into my head, but not in the way that you guys aim to.

[sploom]

Yes ,I am well aware people worship football as a religion.I believe God created us to worship Him but when decide not to do that,we still keep worshipping,only we replace God with something else,maybe your football team or it could be the love of money,idolising famous people ,or even ■■■■■■■■■■■ as we discussed earlier.In my case iy was snooker.I used to dream about being a profesional snooker player and all the fame and wealth that goes with it.
Anyway,I have to give up trying to evangelize to you.I dont have any more cards to play.We did a course at church on evangelism.Im still learning and hopefully get better with the next person.I dont know what to make of the tramper.He comes across as being open to the gospel message but then,suddenly throw a negative comment.Dont feel too sorry for my co drivers.Ive had to put up with loid thumping music,smelly feet up on the dashboard.All I do is 30 minutes evangelism,then Im done!
Happy weekend!

[robroy]

Sploom:
Yes ,I am well aware people worship football as a religion.I believe God created us to worship Him but when decide not to do that,we still keep worshipping,only we replace God with something else,maybe your football team or it could be the love of money,idolising famous people ,or even ■■■■■■■■■■■ as we discussed earlier.In my case iy was snooker.I used to dream about being a profesional snooker player and all the fame and wealth that goes with it.
Anyway,I have to give up trying to evangelize to you.I dont have any more cards to play.We did a course at church on evangelism.Im still learning and hopefully get better with the next person.I dont know what to make of the tramper.He comes across as being open to the gospel message but then,suddenly throw a negative comment.Dont feel too sorry for my co drivers.Ive had to put up with loid thumping music,smelly feet up on the dashboard.All I do is 30 minutes evangelism,then Im done!
Happy weekend!

Just to clarify mate I was using football as an analogy to religion,.I don’t ‘worship’ it, and it certainly is not some sort of ‘god’ substitute,.I ain’t so insecure to need anything in my life like that.

I do not ‘idolise’ people in the full literal sense either, my feet are firmly on the ground, if I did ‘idolise’ anybody as such, it would make me as bad
and as needy as yourself…I am not like that.

As for ■■■■ …you just speak for yourself mate, my reference to it was pertaining to your ■■■ before marriage stance,.that was the 9only reason…,.yeh I’ll view it like every other bloke,.but thats as far as it goes.

Thanks for actually admitting to your part time evangelism,.I can spot guys like you a mile off,.(but within half a mile I’m hiding from them) ,.I find them annoying,.irritating and offensive, …offended by the fact that they feel a need to involve me in all the crap they live by…and this in my view is when the danger sets in.
Tbh brutally honest mate,.your lot are no different from those Muslim fudametalist fruit cakes who radicalise young Asian guys, …perhaps maybe apart from the murders, but exactly the sane principle, instilling your wills on others, to their detriment.

Maybe Yorkshire tramp guy will be a bit more streetwise and wary of you after reading what your intentions are,.whereas I had you sussed out on the first page.

One more question for you,.(answer it or not I ain’t fussed.)
What are your views on homosexuality?
That would make interesting reading, but have your shovel ready.

I’ve enjoyed our debate…(maybe everybody else hasn’t ) but we will never see eye to eye nor can ever be friends (sure the feeling is mutual btw) we are absolute black and white/chalk and cheese with no common ground… but Happy weekend to you too,.back.

[the_nodding_donkey]

ND says he’s an agnostic…a window of opportunity for progress there I reckon.

I think I’ve made it quite clear, if it turns out that the bible is right, which path I’ll choose. I do enjoy playing with an evangelist though. I prefer mormons or jehovah witnesses though. Much more fun.

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[robroy]

the nodding donkey:

ND says he’s an agnostic…a window of opportunity for progress there I reckon.

I think I’ve made it quite clear, if it turns out that the bible is right, which path I’ll choose. I do enjoy playing with an evangelist though. I prefer mormons or jehovah witnesses though. Much more fun.

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As I’ve said, I find it offensive that they try and involve me without invitation, and that they actually feel a need to do so.
I also take offence when they insult my intelligence in thinking I’m stupid enough to swallow all their verbal diareah theories.
I’ve got to the stage now with Jehovas witnesses that I really can not be atsed with them, so I’m no longer initially polite with them,.I just tell them to f.off from the outset.

Anyway it looks like you could be matey’s next project alongside Yorkshire tramper.
May God have mercy on your (arse) souls.

[sploom]

I dont have strong views on homosexuality but the Bible does mention it .So,if youre not a Christian,it doesnt matter what the Bible says.
With me,the Bible lays the standard on what is right or wrong.This applies to discussions on the death penalty too.t I firmly believe human opinion ,or the majority opinion being right,means absolutley nothing.For one thing,human opinion changes from one decade to the next,it blows like the wind.
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[robroy]

Sploom:
I dont have strong views on homosexuality but the Bible does mention it .So,if youre not a Christian,it doesnt matter what the Bible says.
With me,the Bible lays the standard on what is right or wrong.This applies to discussions on the death penalty too.t I firmly believe human opinion ,or the majority opinion being right,means absolutley nothing.For one thing,human opinion changes from one decade to the next,it blows like the wind.
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Well yeh, it certainly does not matter to me,what the Bible says about it being an atheist, but I was intrigued to know what you thought of it,. Especially as (afaik) the Bible takes a very dim view of it, which kinda proves my point that it has no bearing nor relavance on modern life and attitudes,.but is rather stuck in ancient times and values.

So you personally strongly disapprove of heterosexual ■■■ before marriage, but have no equivalent strong opinions on homosexuality…hmm ok.
Bit of a cop out methinks.
I would have thought your views on homosexuality would be quite radical,.considering your strong vocal presence on every ■■■■ thing else…

Nice tactic btw,.take the attention off one controversial subject with the church (because you feel uneasy on addressing it,) thus reducing the heat, on to an even more random controversial one …the death penalty.
Back to comparing not apples with oranges this time, but apples with tractors.
10 out of 10 for that one.

[narc]

Sploom:
Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.

If you seek God and ask Him to reveal Himself to you,He will.

Did you get any clear photos?

[hutpik]

I’m always intrigued by people who are convinced by the existance of God [any God] in their inability to answer one simple question,namely,who were Gods parents.

[sploom]

Yes,I do feel uneasy about it.I guess thats why you chose this topic,right,weve got him here.Lets aim for the weak point.Im not going to be drawn into that,anyone who wants to know what the Bible says on homosexuality can search it themselves,no need to drag me into it.Im only a mere mortal,my human opinions dont mean anything anyway

[sploom]

hutpik:
I’m always intrigued by people who are convinced by the existance of God [any God] in their inability to answer one simple question,namely,who were Gods parents.

God has always existed,He is outside of space and time.

Now you tell me what came first,the chicken or the egg?

[m_a_n_rules]

hutpik:
I’m always intrigued by people who are convinced by the existance of God [any God] in their inability to answer one simple question,namely,who were Gods parents.

arthur and martha…

[robroy]

Sploom:
Yes,I do feel uneasy about it.I guess thats why you chose this topic,right,weve got him here.Lets aim for the weak point.Im not going to be drawn into that,anyone who wants to know what the Bible says on homosexuality can search it themselves,no need to drag me into it.Im only a mere mortal,my human opinions dont mean anything anyway

Ahh right.
But that does not stop you being very opinionated on everything else, whilst at the same time backing it up (in your view) with passages from the Bible…so what’s so different about this topic?

Is your religion being compromised by political correctness and subject sensitivity?
Or are you afraid to illustrate how bigoted it actually is in reality?
I’m amazed that you are so unharacteristically coy about it.

It seems that your unfailing confidence in the opinions of your chosen sect is a tad selective eh?

Love the (pseudo) humility all of a sudden.

[hutpik]

How do you know God has always existed,from where do you get this categoric information,have you always been here.How do you know that he is outside of space & time.

[the_nodding_donkey]

hutpik:
How do you know God has always existed,from where do you get this categoric information,have you always been here.How do you know that he is outside of space & time.

It’s obvious that god has always existed, and it cant be proved because its divine. Just like the big bang is untrue, because it cant be proved.

Just like DNA and evolution can not have been a natural, or accidental, development. It stands to reason that every person of this world, is descendant from the first two people. Funny, how the church is so condemning about homosexuality, but encourages ■■■■■■.

[the_nodding_donkey]

robroy:

the nodding donkey:

ND says he’s an agnostic…a window of opportunity for progress there I reckon.

I think I’ve made it quite clear, if it turns out that the bible is right, which path I’ll choose. I do enjoy playing with an evangelist though. I prefer mormons or jehovah witnesses though. Much more fun.

-\m/

As I’ve said, I find it offensive that they try and involve me without invitation, and that they actually feel a need to do so.
I also take offence when they insult my intelligence in thinking I’m stupid enough to swallow all their verbal diareah theories.
I’ve got to the stage now with Jehovas witnesses that I really can not be atsed with them, so I’m no longer initially polite with them,.I just tell them to f.off from the outset.

Anyway it looks like you could be matey’s next project alongside Yorkshire tramper.
May God have mercy on your (arse) souls.

I love talking to jehovah’s. I always start by asking them politely if they enjoy talking to dead people. When they give it the non plussed look of whaaat, I explain that I had a big blood transfusion after a bike accident, which saved my life. According to their believes, I should have been left to bleed to death. That is usually the point where they start making a hasty exit…

(Possibly something to do with the smiling Hannibal Lecter look I’ve switched to by then…)

[sploom]

hutpik:
How do you know God has always existed,from where do you get this categoric information,have you always been here.How do you know that he is outside of space & time.

God has revealed this in the scriptures in the Bible.

[sploom]

robroy:

Sploom:
Yes,I do feel uneasy about it.I guess thats why you chose this topic,right,weve got him here.Lets aim for the weak point.Im not going to be drawn into that,anyone who wants to know what the Bible says on homosexuality can search it themselves,no need to drag me into it.Im only a mere mortal,my human opinions dont mean anything anyway

Ahh right.
But that does not stop you being very opinionated on everything else, whilst at the same time backing it up (in your view) with passages from the Bible…so what’s so different about this topic?

Is your religion being compromised by political correctness and subject sensitivity?
Or are you afraid to illustrate how bigoted it actually is in reality?
I’m amazed that you are so unharacteristically coy about it.

It seems that your unfailing confidence in the opinions of your chosen sect is a tad selective eh?

Love the (pseudo) humility all of a sudden.

The problem with this topic is the LGBT movement has gathered pace in recent years as you know and it has got to the stage you could be arrested or jailed for posting anything that goes against the LGBT agenda,even I watched an interview with Teresa May and she was asked if homosexuality was a sin.She said it wasnt.What else could she say?
But you arent the first one to throw this at me ,so my answer would be.What do you define as a sin?
If you are an atheist there is no such thing as a sin.
If you are a Christian,then you can see what the Bible says about it but either way,no need to demonise a 3rd party over the issue.
I didnt realise I was so opinionated

[the_maoster]

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[hutpik]

Sploom.So you base your complete knowledge of God on a book written by clergy 3 centuries after Jesus died,in a time when maybe 1% of the population could read or write,filled with 20th hand stories from round the campfire,distorted over a period of 300 years before being written down.Hmm I admire your faith but deplore you naivity and lack of facts.