I read something back in the Mansell era that it was possible for a driver to set a hot F1 lap and then for the car to "remember " and replicate it lap after lap. There was talk that they could do away with the drivers altogether, right up until the moment of realisation that apart from a handful of techie types nobody would bother watching or therefore sponsoring.
the maoster:
I read something back in the Mansell era that it was possible for a driver to set a hot F1 lap and then for the car to "remember " and replicate it lap after lap. There was talk that they could do away with the drivers altogether, right up until the moment of realisation that apart from a handful of techie types nobody would bother watching or therefore sponsoring.
It’s also fair to say that most people who are interested in cars and motor sport are interested mostly because we like driving cars.With the engineering side of it all being to that end in providing the ( human ) ‘driver’ with the best possible ‘driving’ experience on road or track.IE a mega £££££$$$$$ industry that’s all about satisfying the demands and maintaining the interest of human ‘drivers’.Remove that interest then the whole thing becomes pointless and defeats the object.
the maoster:
I read something back in the Mansell era that it was possible for a driver to set a hot F1 lap and then for the car to "remember " and replicate it lap after lap. There was talk that they could do away with the drivers altogether, right up until the moment of realisation that apart from a handful of techie types nobody would bother watching or therefore sponsoring.
They put VR46 against Motobot, Vale whooped the wiry arsed wannabe, [emoji12]
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Wheel Nut:
the maoster:
I read something back in the Mansell era that it was possible for a driver to set a hot F1 lap and then for the car to "remember " and replicate it lap after lap. There was talk that they could do away with the drivers altogether, right up until the moment of realisation that apart from a handful of techie types nobody would bother watching or therefore sponsoring.They put VR46 against Motobot, Vale whooped the wiry arsed wannabe, [emoji12]
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Yeah but only by 30 secs meaning most of us mere mortals would have been whooped! Yamaha reckon they will soon have ther robobike that can beat VR. 
Carryfast:
Dr Damon:
the maoster:
“No private vehicles on the roads”. Now that is a bold statement Doc, I don’t doubt for one minute that that would be the ideal solution, but if you think that the Americans jealousy hold onto their right to bear arms trying to take their guns away would be far less problematic that trying to take their cars from them!Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
So tell us what’s the point of this robot bike.Are you seriously suggesting that any biker will buy one so he can sit at home watching the tele or talking about his robot bike with fellow robot bike enthusiasts on a robot bike forum.While it drives itself round the Isle of Man etc.Oh wait I’ve got it they all buy a robot bike for its own amusement then use a bicycle for themselves.Have you actually thought this through.
Surely you can work that one out by yourself. 
Maybe not.
Dr Damon:
Carryfast:
Dr Damon:
Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
So tell us what’s the point of this robot bike.Are you seriously suggesting that any biker will buy one so he can sit at home watching the tele or talking about his robot bike with fellow robot bike enthusiasts on a robot bike forum.While it drives itself round the Isle of Man etc.Oh wait I’ve got it they all buy a robot bike for its own amusement then use a bicycle for themselves.Have you actually thought this through.
Surely you can work that one out by yourself.
No I don’t get it.Assuming you’re saying that it will still need a human rider to lean it into the corners and keep the handle bars straight ?.While it does all the other fun stuff like the skill of knowing when to apply the power and how much and correcting power slides and timing of usphifts and downshifts and correct braking inputs ?.Or maybe that’s also too much for it. I’m struggling to see the point of it all either way other than a pointless charity exercise to pay a bunch of control freak nerds to fix something that isn’t broke and a solution to a non existent problem.
With the lose lose in all cases of cutting ( cheating ) humans out of a previously enjoyable pastime and use of the human brain if not also their living. 
Juddian:
Why i’m replying to the forum troll i have no bloody idea
I spent years reading the nonsense from the trolls wishing they would disappear. Of late I’ve put them all in a bucket, and a few others as well, so I never have to read their waffle. It makes reading the threads so much easier. 
Stanley Knife:
Juddian:
Why i’m replying to the forum troll i have no bloody ideaI spent years reading the nonsense from the trolls wishing they would disappear. Of late I’ve put them all in a bucket, and a few others as well, so I never have to read their waffle. It makes reading the threads so much easier.
So let me get this right Stan. You dismiss anyone you reckon is a troll?
Or do you dismiss anything you do not like reading?
You are not telling me you enjoy reading some of the illegible rubbish from some current members?
How do you distinguish which is which?
I cannot work it out fella.
Dr Damon:
Stanley Knife:
Juddian:
Why i’m replying to the forum troll i have no bloody ideaI spent years reading the nonsense from the trolls wishing they would disappear. Of late I’ve put them all in a bucket, and a few others as well, so I never have to read their waffle. It makes reading the threads so much easier.
So let me get this right Stan. You dismiss anyone you reckon is a troll?
Or do you dismiss anything you do not like reading?You are not telling me you enjoy reading some of the illegible rubbish from some current members?
How do you distinguish which is which?
I cannot work it out fella.
He can’t see this post 
What a boring forum it would be if you put all the members on block so you could just read about the M25.
Dr Damon:
Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
I gather from your other thread your a bit of a two wheeled petrol head. It makes me wonder, would you want to ride a robotic bike that did everything for you and you simply sat there and hung on?
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
I gather from your other thread your a bit of a two wheeled petrol head. It makes me wonder, would you want to ride a robotic bike that did everything for you and you simply sat there and hung on?
No, certainly not, not in a million years, are you mad?..
Dr Damon:
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
I gather from your other thread your a bit of a two wheeled petrol head. It makes me wonder, would you want to ride a robotic bike that did everything for you and you simply sat there and hung on?
No, certainly not, not in a million years, are you mad?..
Why not? And almost certainly.
Dr Damon:
Captain Caveman 76:
I gather from your other thread your a bit of a two wheeled petrol head. It makes me wonder, would you want to ride a robotic bike that did everything for you and you simply sat there and hung on?No, certainly not, not in a million years, are you mad?..
Make your mind up either you’re for it or you’re against it.
Maybe I’ve missed something but why would a robot bike involve a human rider being there at all. Maybe it’s that contradiction which shows the total pointlessness of robot vehicles whether bikes or cars or trucks.IE what’s the point of the things and what are they trying to achieve ?.
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Hey Maoster on another subject did you hear Yamaha have built a robotic bike and it did a lap against The Doctor.
The Doc won by 30 secs but Yamaha are adamant they can build a bike soon that can beat any human!Impressive or what!
I gather from your other thread your a bit of a two wheeled petrol head. It makes me wonder, would you want to ride a robotic bike that did everything for you and you simply sat there and hung on?
No, certainly not, not in a million years, are you mad?..
Why not? And almost certainly.
Cavey the point of building this robobike is not to carry people. I am not going to go into any great detail because I do not have time but to ride a Moto GP bike with well over 200 bhp and capbable of speeds well in excess of 200mph takes an awful lot of skill, physical effort and a hell of lot of concentration. To get to the level of skill to ride one sucessfully takes years and years of practice and dedication.
If Yamaha can build a robobike which is capable of beating the best humans in the world what does that tell you? They are already almost there. It is already capable of beating most of us mere mortals.
That tells me robots can make a far better job than any human even with something as complex as racing a GP bike. They can also do that without having a heart attack, losing their temper or getting fatigued.
Do you see where it’s going? Over to you?
Dr Damon:
Cavey the point of building this robobike is not to carry people. I am not going to go into any great detail because I do not have time but to ride a Moto GP bike with well over 200 bhp and capbable of speeds well in excess of 200mph takes an awful lot of skill, physical effort and a hell of lot of concentration. To get to the level of skill to ride one sucessfully takes years and years of practice and dedication.If Yamaha can build a robobike which is capable of beating the best humans in the world what does that tell you? They are already almost there. It is already capable of beating most of us mere mortals.
That tells me robots can make a far better job than any human even with something as complex as racing a GP bike. They can also do that without having a heart attack, losing their temper or getting fatigued.Do you see where it’s going? Over to you?
So, theoretically speaking, you’d have a perfect racing machine that does everything perfectly. It outperforms humans so there’s no point racing one because you’d never beat it. Since any other robobike would also be perfect and do everything exactly as it should without making mistakes, there’s no point racing against that either. So you have a perfect racing machine that is pointless racing.
Your scientists are so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should. (Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park, 1993).
What I actually meant in my question was; would YOU ride a motorbike that did everything for you? As in commuting or for fun.
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Cavey the point of building this robobike is not to carry people. I am not going to go into any great detail because I do not have time but to ride a Moto GP bike with well over 200 bhp and capbable of speeds well in excess of 200mph takes an awful lot of skill, physical effort and a hell of lot of concentration. To get to the level of skill to ride one sucessfully takes years and years of practice and dedication.If Yamaha can build a robobike which is capable of beating the best humans in the world what does that tell you? They are already almost there. It is already capable of beating most of us mere mortals.
That tells me robots can make a far better job than any human even with something as complex as racing a GP bike. They can also do that without having a heart attack, losing their temper or getting fatigued.Do you see where it’s going? Over to you?
So, theoretically speaking, you’d have a perfect racing machine that does everything perfectly. It outperforms humans so there’s no point racing one because you’d never beat it. Since any other robobike would also be perfect and do everything exactly as it should without making mistakes, there’s no point racing against that either. So you have a perfect racing machine that is pointless racing.
Your scientists are so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should. (Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park, 1993).
What I actually meant in my question was; would YOU ride a motorbike that did everything for you? As in commuting or for fun.
An automated bike for fun? Of course not.
An automated bike (a safe one) for commuting? With a little bit of weather protection, in an increasingly densely populated urban environment. . I can see a market there.
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Dr Damon:
Cavey the point of building this robobike is not to carry people. I am not going to go into any great detail because I do not have time but to ride a Moto GP bike with well over 200 bhp and capbable of speeds well in excess of 200mph takes an awful lot of skill, physical effort and a hell of lot of concentration. To get to the level of skill to ride one sucessfully takes years and years of practice and dedication.If Yamaha can build a robobike which is capable of beating the best humans in the world what does that tell you? They are already almost there. It is already capable of beating most of us mere mortals.
That tells me robots can make a far better job than any human even with something as complex as racing a GP bike. They can also do that without having a heart attack, losing their temper or getting fatigued.Do you see where it’s going? Over to you?
Yes it’s quite clear where it’s going.A bunch of nerds who can’t ride/drive and who are a few spanners short of a full set,have totally lost the plot.In thinking that anyone who can is remotely interested in buying a motorbike or car which takes itself out for a ride/drive.While joining the nerds sitting at home talking bollox on their computers like you do.IE what really makes you think that the average biker ( or car buyer ) will rush out to buy a motorbike or car which they can’t ride or drive and just for its own amusement,while they sit at home or have to use public transport.
Franglais:
An automated bike (a safe one) for commuting? With a little bit of weather protection, in an increasingly densely populated urban environment. . I can see a market there.
How can you possibly have an automated bike that also has a rider when it’s clear that the agenda is robot riderless bikes together with humans having to go by robotised public transport.So picture the scene of a utopia in which truck drivers no longer have a job and couldn’t even afford to buy a motor bike or a car nor would they even be allowed to anyway.Even if they could out of the wages earn’t from serving food and drink to the robot vehicle makers.
As I said nerds who are few spanners short of a full set trying to create a doomed captive market for their own zb trade and benefit. 
Carryfast:
Franglais:
An automated bike (a safe one) for commuting? With a little bit of weather protection, in an increasingly densely populated urban environment. . I can see a market there.How can you possibly have an automated bike that also has a rider when it’s clear that the agenda is robot riderless bikes together with humans having to go by robotised public transport.So picture the scene of a utopia in which truck drivers no longer have a job and couldn’t even afford to buy a motor bike or a car nor would they even be allowed to anyway.Even if they could out of the wages earn’t from serving food and drink to the robot vehicle makers.
As I said nerds who are few spanners short of a full set trying to create a doomed captive market for their own zb trade and benefit.
Wouldn’t work, most vehicle production lines are automated now.
Carryfast: to spell out what I meant: a two wheeled form of transport, (one that is small efficient and only needs carry one person) that doesn’t need a skilful rider/driver. One that can drop off one client then nip off alone to collect another.
Racing these things is not the target. That’s merely a way of improving the technology and waking up the public to how capable they are. No need for a four wheeled six seater taxi when you can get a bike.
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