Expired car tax,does it anger you

[juddian]

Well i always run my own vehicles legal, i pays me dues on everything else too, mug that i am.

However i am not donning a Stazi uniform and shopping other people for a pat on the head from the party apparatchik.

Just run your own bloody life as well you can, and try to live long enough to get back some of the money they, the parasite state, have forcibly extracted from you since you could earn a living.

Sod em, if they want spies, they’ll have to employ 'em, i ain’t spying for this bunch of chancers.

[att]

Juddian:
Well i always run my own vehicles legal, i pays me dues on everything else too, mug that i am.

However i am not donning a Stazi uniform and shopping other people for a pat on the head from the party apparatchik.

Just run your own bloody life as well you can, and try to live long enough to get back some of the money they, the parasite state, have forcibly extracted from you since you could earn a living.

Sod em, if they want spies, they’ll have to employ 'em, i ain’t spying for this bunch of chancers.

Sums it all up quite well.

I will add…Where I grew up in Salford, a grass always wore a wide grin, courtesy of a Stanley Knife.

[own_account_driver]

I don’t really understand these people that are seemingly so proud of never breaking any laws. They just seem like animals trained in behaviour without thought like pooping in a litter tray.

It’s illegal to cross the line on red traffic lights unless directed to by a policeman. If these people had an ambulance behind them on blues would they just sit there because they’re so pathetic they can only define themselves by abiding by some written rules somewhere that at the end of the day were just made up for some reason by some other person.

Religions disappeared and people of a moronic nature seem to have replaced the ten commandments with things like never displaying an out of date tax disc.

[limeyphil]

Own Account Driver:
I don’t really understand these people that are seemingly so proud of never breaking any laws. They just seem like animals trained in behaviour without thought like pooping in a litter tray.

It’s illegal to cross the line on red traffic lights unless directed to by a policeman. If these people had an ambulance behind them on blues would they just sit there because they’re so pathetic they can only define themselves by abiding by some written rules somewhere that at the end of the day were just made up for some reason by some other person.

Religions disappeared and people of a moronic nature seem to have replaced the ten commandments with things like never displaying an out of date tax disc.

there was a thread regarding the red lights, and ambulances that you’ve said.
it was unbelievable how many jobsworths were out there.
probably the same sort of people that only have ■■■ once a month, on a saturday after 7pm.

[macplaxton]

Doesn’t anger me at all. I’m not an angry person.

waynedl:
running a vehicle in this country is a RIP OFF and they should bring the cost of running back down

Is it 'eck as like! Running a vehicle in the UK is relatively cheap, I could rattle off a list of many other EU countries where it is a LOT dearer, even after taking wages into account. I’ll start with Ireland, where it is three to six times dearer for insurance. Not much in it on the petrol price. Huge registration taxes and huge annual motor taxes…

[winseer]

I think we’re getting away from the real thing that gets on one’s ■■■■ here folks…

When you pass a parked car with tax disk dated something like 6 months or more out of date… THAT’'S what needs to be reported!
This person is clearly taking the ■■■■, rather than just has a lousy local postal service, or might not have been paid until the last day of the month, by which point it’s going to be a few days into the next month before the new disk arrives…

Who’s gonna report a July 12 parked car right now for instance then, when it could indeed have just got stuck in the post, and DVLA have already taken full blame for the late delivery sometimes as well?

If you’re gonna take a shot, make sure it’s a 100% hit 100% of the time I reckon! 6 months out of date is no mistake - that’s someone ripping off the rest of us who pay up on time.

[tommy_t]

Winseer:

stevieboy308:

Winseer:
It would have been better to totally scrap RFL in favour of sticking it all on fuel. That way, if you dodge the tax, you run out of fuel, or might even be daft to try and play the tramp at the MSA and nick/scrounge someone else’s.

Can not VOSA merely drive past a registration plate these days, and get auto-flagged if the vehicle isn’t taxed & mot’d?

Most vehicles that don’t have road tax I’m thinking are just lapsed MOT failures anyway. If you’ve paid for repairs or got it past the MOT without work being done, then why then not bother to tax it? Both or neither must be the norm don’tya think?

The biggest gain of all would be Eurodrivers coming over here who currently pay sod all, now find themselves paying through the nose for diesel wherever they get it. They might even “stop coming here” if fuel went up enough - boohoo! 8)

[zb] hell I agree with winseer, now where did I put those pills !

Fff…! - Where’s mine!

Except that the majority of them certainly trucks don’t buy fuel in this rip off country

Road fund ( VED ) did at one time many many years ago actually get spent on repairing the roads , now it pays politicians big salaries and expenses , but we are all in it together, and the pope is a muslim

[lee_g]

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a ■■■■ after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

[stevieboy308]

Lee G:

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a [zb] after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

It doesn’t matter what the small print says, It’s what the ombudsman says that counts, and he says they can’t just drop you like that

[lee_g]

stevieboy308:

Lee G:

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a [zb] after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

It doesn’t matter what the small print says, It’s what the ombudsman says that counts, and he says they can’t just drop you like that

really? So they cant cancel your insurance for breach of contract? Are you willing to chance it by any chance?

[wildgoose]

Winseer:
When you pass a parked car with tax disk dated something like 6 months or more out of date… THAT’'S what needs to be reported!
This person is clearly taking the ■■■■, rather than just has a lousy local postal service, or might not have been paid until the last day of the month, by which point it’s going to be a few days into the next month before the new disk arrives…

Who’s gonna report a July 12 parked car right now for instance then, when it could indeed have just got stuck in the post, and DVLA have already taken full blame for the late delivery sometimes as well?

If you’re gonna take a shot, make sure it’s a 100% hit 100% of the time I reckon! 6 months out of date is no mistake - that’s someone ripping off the rest of us who pay up on time.

You’re an idiot, clearly. Just like most of the rest on this thread.

You cannot tell anything from an out of date tax disk displayed, nothing at all, it doesn’t mean the car isn’t taxed. It doesn’t mean they haven’t paid, it might simply mean they haven’t displayed. So why do you care? Get with the times.

For the sake of argument, in theory I don’t suppose it’s possible that I might have not displayed a current tax disc in my windscreen for over 3 years and never had any issues from it? Doesn’t mean I haven’t paid it.

What use is a paper disc in a world of ANPR? The tax disc is an out of date notion, and as long as you car is taxed, i’d be very interested to hear of any problems you ever have from not displaying one.

You are just looking for things to poke your nose into, and desperately need to get a life. It really makes me cringe listening to “the law is the law, obey, comply” brigade. You were given a brain, use it.

Tax disc also has no effect on insurance. MOT does, but not tax.

If anyone thinks motoring is expensive here, ever tried buying a car in Denmark?

[peewee]

Lee G:

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a [zb] after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

so to all these people who say out of date tax isnt a issue etc wont like it when they have to claim on there insurance when hit

[limeyphil]

peewee:

Lee G:

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a [zb] after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

so to all these people who say out of date tax isnt a issue etc wont like it when they have to claim on there insurance when hit

and what is the connection between out of date vehicle tax, and insurance?

[dessy]

Pay your car tax and shut it! OK! If you don’t,then expect plod to crush your car! I agree about car insurance though! It’s a ■■■■■■■ ripoff! Legalised theft! So is car tax!

[keebs26uk]

A long time ago I admit when I was unemployed I couldn’t afford my tax so I thought I will leave it a month. I then taxed it after yes driving for a month even then it was a struggle to afford it on £65 week. I think we have all been in a bad situation at some point, and for this reason I would never grass. If somebody grassed me up back then I would of beat 10 rounds of crap out of them. It’s a hard country to live in help each other

[del949]

where do all you “grass” haters draw the line I wonder?
When does an offence become serious enough to become a grass?
I suppose that you all would grass up a kiddie fiddler, what about a burglar would that be serious enough?
A shoplifter?
Or maybe it’s just when something directly affects you that you want the law involved.

[tallyman]

I’ve used the gov.uk link twice now, both times it was for cars that appeared to have been dumped in a layby down the road from me. Both times the cars were gone within a couple of days, which is what the whole object of the exercise.

I don’t really give a ■■■■ if someone wants to try & evade their car tax, that’s up to them, but if they do get caught then they deserve what they get.

With a fairly modern car the tax is becoming a smaller part of running costs -my 407 costs £135 a year and my wife’s Fiesta costs £20 a year, and it’s easy enough to get the tax sorted on-line in only a couple of minutes, as long as insurance & MOT are valid, so there’s no real excuse for not getting tax done unless there are other problems with the vehicle. The tax disk is the only outwardly visible sign that a car is legal - as all of these cop-programmes remind us, chances are that if a car isn’t taxed, then there’s a good chance it isn’t MOT’d and/or insured.

[waynedl]

tommy t:

Winseer:

stevieboy308:

Winseer:
It would have been better to totally scrap RFL in favour of sticking it all on fuel. That way, if you dodge the tax, you run out of fuel, or might even be daft to try and play the tramp at the MSA and nick/scrounge someone else’s.

Can not VOSA merely drive past a registration plate these days, and get auto-flagged if the vehicle isn’t taxed & mot’d?

Most vehicles that don’t have road tax I’m thinking are just lapsed MOT failures anyway. If you’ve paid for repairs or got it past the MOT without work being done, then why then not bother to tax it? Both or neither must be the norm don’tya think?

The biggest gain of all would be Eurodrivers coming over here who currently pay sod all, now find themselves paying through the nose for diesel wherever they get it. They might even “stop coming here” if fuel went up enough - boohoo! 8)

[zb] hell I agree with winseer, now where did I put those pills !

Fff…! - Where’s mine!

Except that the majority of them certainly trucks don’t buy fuel in this rip off country

Road fund ( VED ) did at one time many many years ago actually get spent on repairing the roads , now it pays politicians big salaries and expenses , but we are all in it together, and the pope is a muslim

Winseer:
I think we’re getting away from the real thing that gets on one’s ■■■■ here folks…

When you pass a parked car with tax disk dated something like 6 months or more out of date… THAT’'S what needs to be reported!
This person is clearly taking the ■■■■, rather than just has a lousy local postal service, or might not have been paid until the last day of the month, by which point it’s going to be a few days into the next month before the new disk arrives…

Who’s gonna report a July 12 parked car right now for instance then, when it could indeed have just got stuck in the post, and DVLA have already taken full blame for the late delivery sometimes as well?

If you’re gonna take a shot, make sure it’s a 100% hit 100% of the time I reckon! 6 months out of date is no mistake - that’s someone ripping off the rest of us who pay up on time.

Because if everyone paid, the government would reduce the cost to the rest of us, the same as the insurance companies would.

Get bloody real, as I’ve already said, if I thought I could get away without paying these rip off costs, I bloody would.

In Bulgaria where I visit a lot, insurance is literally a few quid, the Vignette is only required if you go on the main roads, if you’re staying local-ish, then you don’t need it, MOT’s and repairs are a decent fair price and everyone is running LPG because it’s not a rip off to get the conversion or buy.
Not bad for a ‘backwards nation’

America is up in arms because fuel has gone up again - to the dizzying heights of… $3.80 for a US Gallon… not a litre, ok not a normal gallon either, but still a damned site cheaper than we pay. Ask Pat about insurance or road tax over there too.

We can’t really manage without cars over here, 4am starts 20 miles away, random finishing times at the end of a 15hr day, kinda rules public transport out doesn’t it.

[limeyphil]

del949:
where do all you “grass” haters draw the line I wonder?
When does an offence become serious enough to become a grass?
I suppose that you all would grass up a kiddie fiddler, what about a burglar would that be serious enough?
A shoplifter?
Or maybe it’s just when something directly affects you that you want the law involved.

if someone grassed up a kiddie fiddler, then he’d probably get burned out.
why?
how close to him was he? kiddie fiddler himself perhaps?
grass up a burglar? no point.
deal with it yourself.

the police are a bunch of thugs, and tax collectors nowadays. why help them? do you get anything out of it?

[peewee]

limeyphil:

peewee:

Lee G:

peewee:
`how would having no tax affect any insurance claim if someone untaxed but insured went into your vehicle ?

cos you will probably find that your insurance is only valid if you have a current MOT and RFL, if not your insurance company would drop you like a [zb] after a niight on the guiness! Its all in the small print

so to all these people who say out of date tax isnt a issue etc wont like it when they have to claim on there insurance when hit

and what is the connection between out of date vehicle tax, and insurance?

if u drive with a untaxed vehicle then i would assume if u have insurance it would be invalid unless your going to a place of repair thats the point im getting at