Carryfast:
On that note I support Scottish Nationalism.Although like in the case of Ireland it’s anyone’s guess how they can be stupid enough to then translate secession from the UK into EU membership instead.
Why? Two phrases immediately spring to mind; eye on the main chance, and jumping on the gravy train.
the maoster:
Carryfast:
On that note I support Scottish Nationalism.Although like in the case of Ireland it’s anyone’s guess how they can be stupid enough to then translate secession from the UK into EU membership instead.Why? Two phrases immediately spring to mind; eye on the main chance, and jumping on the gravy train.
That’s what the Greeks thought. 
The-Snowman:
the nodding donkey:
The o.p.(BWD) appears to be a xenophobic , sanctimonious git bag.+1
You only need to read his guff on any of the EU polls threads.
About an hour ago he called Dolph racist then in the next sentence said that all foreigners were not welcome. Go figure
Yo Snowy
are you referring to these quotes perchance ■■
Dolph:
Хахаха that’s great, now you can show us how you gonna integrate Slovakian gypsy and any gypsy.
Why the hell you continue to give benefits to people who are abusing the system, they are telling in your face that they are benefit scroungers and nothing happen?P.S. 92% of Bulgarian gypsy are unemployed, uneducated and/or illiterate, they survive on benefits, theft, prostitution and begging, also 90% of prison population in Bulgaria is made up of gypsy’s. This people refuse to integrate for the past 26 years, despite being given opportunities numerous times. Only the communst party was able to force them to go to school and work back in the commie days.
Dolph:
…The difference between me and you is that I know what gypsies are like: lazy, criminal benefit scroungers that will drain the social system in a blink of an eye.
You are smart as a door knob if you think gypsies are the same are ordinary citizens of any given EE country. But Im not surprise, as we all know you prefer illegal invaders from Afghanistan then legal immigrants from Eastern Europe.
and mr handsomes reply ■■
boredwivdrivin:
also who mentioned anything about gypsies ■■just let your prejudices flow mr racist . gypsies are just foreign and no more or less foreign , or welcome , than any other foreigner .
would you care to explain your comment :: ““About an hour ago he called Dolph racist then in the next sentence said that all foreigners were not welcome. Go figure””
i know we have discussed your struggles with language , comprehension and logical thought processes previously .
so , to keep u amused whilst the grown ups are chatting …
an issue offering suitable intellectual challenge …
just 4 U
Dolph:
Yugoslavia way its only in your dreams, I don’t see German boots on the ground to keep Italy, France or Bulgaria into EU, something that Milosevic did.
Also no nationalism in the sense you are talking about, we saw Le Pan 2 on election day months ago…
Actually Yugoslavia looked more like UK, one language, currency, capitol etc. one country stronger then the rest and wanting to control them. Like England over Scotland, Norther Ireland and Wales. Did you forgot the scare tactics of England over Scottish referendum…
interesting revisionist history .
more exciting than the FACT that Germany started the war by encouraging the secession of Slovenia from the Yugoslavian federation with all of the money …
leaving Tudjman and Milosevic to squabble over the remains with their plentiful supply of weaponry
This shouldn’t really be about politics - but it is.
This should simply be about “Do we KNOW where we’re at today?”
“Better off? - Vote IN Worse off? - Vote OUT. Don’t Know? - Don’t vote!”
Trouble is, they are not the reasons the above groups of people will vote that way suggested at all…
Let’s try instead then:
“Believe the lies? - Vote IN” "Paranoid? - Vote OUT. Keen to see your fellow humans get shafted? - Don’t vote!"
Winseer:
This shouldn’t really be about politics - but it is.This should simply be about “Do we KNOW where we’re at today?”
“Better off? - Vote IN Worse off? - Vote OUT. Don’t Know? - Don’t vote!”
Trouble is, they are not the reasons the above groups of people will vote that way suggested at all…
Let’s try instead then:
“Believe the lies? - Vote IN” "Paranoid? - Vote OUT. Keen to see your fellow humans get shafted? - Don’t vote!"
We know where we’re at.Subject to all the conditions imposed on us in the treaties of Rome,Maastricht and Lisbon and Cameron obviously hasn’t reached any signed amendments regarding any/all of those treaties to return the sovereignty lost to them.That’s the main good enough reason to vote out in addition to the economic reasons.
I’m just upset at the sheer number of folk that don’t give a ■■■■ one way or the other. This is an issue to have strong feelings about. Pick a side. You might not get the “winning” side, but don’t be a sheep deferring all to our numbnuts leaders FFS. 
Winseer:
I’m just upset at the sheer number of folk that don’t give a ■■■■ one way or the other. This is an issue to have strong feelings about. Pick a side. You might not get the “winning” side, but don’t be a sheep deferring all to our numbnuts leaders FFS.
Agreed Winseer.
Winseer:
I’m just upset at the sheer number of folk that don’t give a ■■■■ one way or the other. This is an issue to have strong feelings about. Pick a side. You might not get the “winning” side, but don’t be a sheep deferring all to our numbnuts leaders FFS.
You are correct to a certain extend. Spoke with friend 2 days ago in UK, on my question: are you voting in the referendum, they say:“we still don’t know what is the better option”. The wife of the mate said: I don’t know will be better for UK, how can I vote one way or the other.
In other words they are still undecided.
Dolph:
You are correct to a certain extend. Spoke with friend 2 days ago in UK, on my question: are you voting in the referendum, they say:“we still don’t know what is the better option”. The wife of the mate said: I don’t know will be better for UK, how can I vote one way or the other.
In other words they are still undecided.
To be fair it would probably end up in confusing overload if we filled the media with 24/7 in v out argument from now until June.The question is simple Cameron has got no actual signed amendments which would make any changes whatsoever to the sovereignty issue regards Rome/Maastricht/Lisbon nor the obvious intention of the federalists to go for the full on USE as in your own view.Cameron also hasn’t made any changes to the economic question of our net contributions.IE the whole in campaign is already based on the lie of so called ‘re negotiations’ that never were nor could ever have been.Which hopefully will be made clearer by the out campaign as we get closer to the date.The main problem being the amount of the electorate left who can remember living in a pre EEC Britain.As opposed to the numbers of those who know nothing else and are therefore more susceptible to all the in campaign’s scare tactics.
boredwivdrivin:
just let your prejudices flow mr racist . gypsies are just foreign and no more or less foreign , or welcome , than any other foreigner .would you care to explain your comment:: ““About an hour ago he called Dolph racist then in the next sentence said that all foreigners were not welcome. Go figure””
Gordon Bennet,if I must. Let me break it down then
Read the highlighted parts. “no more welcome than any other foreigner” is what it says. Can’t be any clearer
Now going by that logic I appreciate one could could also take “no LESS welcome than any other foreigner” from what you’ve written, implying that everyone is welcome to the same degree but lets just bear in mind its you we’re talking about here. Your whole attitude and demeanor towards anyone who isn’t from England (or Wales for some reason) in every post where foreigners are mentioned means it’s a perfectly reasonable assumption to take that “no more welcome” is what you REALLY mean. None of your other posts suggest you think foreigners are welcome on these shores so why would we believe this one to be any different? To even include ANY way of wording the phrase “no more welcome than any other foreigner” would appear to be a subconcious slip at best, and a poor attempt at hiding a blatantly racist comment at worst
Hope that’s cleared things up for you. If not, well, I don’t really care to be honest. You can argue till the cows come home that your comment isn’t racist and i’m wrong but everyone on the site knows exactly what you are and how you feel about foreigners (towards Scotland and any Eastern Europeans being perfect examples) so anyone with more than two brain cells (and this is probably why you’re struggling) knows precisely what you meant and the post is clear as to what you were saying.
boredwivdrivin:
i know we have discussed your struggles with language , comprehension and logical thought processes previously .so , to keep u amused whilst the grown ups are chatting …
an issue offering suitable intellectual challenge …
just 4 U
A - No we havn’t
B - Since the above two quotations alone have at least 13 grammatical error’s and spelling mistake’s between them, I don’t really think you’re in the best place to insult anyone else do you?
Dolph:
Winseer:
I’m just upset at the sheer number of folk that don’t give a ■■■■ one way or the other. This is an issue to have strong feelings about. Pick a side. You might not get the “winning” side, but don’t be a sheep deferring all to our numbnuts leaders FFS.You are correct to a certain extend. Spoke with friend 2 days ago in UK, on my question: are you voting in the referendum, they say:“we still don’t know what is the better option”. The wife of the mate said: I don’t know will be better for UK, how can I vote one way or the other.
In other words they are still undecided.
As long as they vote on the day - then it will be fine.
Each person who doesn’t vote is effectively supporting and deferring to whatever our PM wants - which currently happens to be “IN”.
If you don’t like the idea of your “unvote” being used as an “IN” vote - then, these people in particular need to make the time to get to a polling booth - or vote by post - just vote. 
The trouble starts should the poll go the three-way split as I’ve suggested in earlier posts…
To PREVENT that “trouble” then - we need that “third faction” of “won’t vote” - pushed down to ideally “a tenth faction”. If there’s a 90% turnout - I’m satisfied that the people will win the ballot rather than the sheep.
https://youtu.be/qPb91eT80L8 And every time i see scum like those at calais attack our trucks and try and stow away to enter this country illegally it soon removes any doubts about leaving the EU , Why some driver hasn’t wipe a load of them out by now i don’t know standing in the path of trucks and causing damage the f… should be squashed by now
Here’s a peculiar “Coincidence”:
I’ve just checked the prices of the IN/OUT EU referendum result and the HILARY/TRUMP US election result (At THIS stage remember)
…They are practically mirroring each other…
Hilary 1/2 on Trump 2/1 against.
“IN” 1/2 on - “OUT” 2/1 against.
Hmmmm… A conspiracy theorist like me could go on to suggest that both markets are being manipulated by the same bunch of people… Kinda makes you realize who the biggest losers would be if we did indeed leave the EU eh?
The banks. Who runs a lot of the banks? Who runs Goldman Sachs in particular?
Oh bugger it. Let’s just say it: “Smacks of New World Order manipulation in the markets”.
Libor fiddlers got jailed. Fiddling the EU result though? That’ll hurt a lot more of us, especially if the INs steal the result with <33% of the electorate.
Such a result would suit the banks fine. That some of us will get killed in the new debt bubble that follows - doesn’t matter to them.
Winseer:
Each person who doesn’t vote is effectively supporting and deferring to whatever our PM wants
To be fair ‘some’ of us have got even bigger things to worry about like what the total zbwit has done in the form of the National Planning Policy Framework.Which has effectively wiped most of London’s surrounding counties off the map by turning them into a London suburb whether we leave or stay.
Who needs Merkel while we’ve still got that zb to put up with.On that note Dolph is right we’re just as capable of turning out enough idiots of our own to lead us.Although to be fair to Farage,let alone us then looking over the channel for more.
The-Snowman:
boredwivdrivin:
just let your prejudices flow mr racist . gypsies are just foreign and no more or less foreign , or welcome , than any other foreigner .Gordon Bennet,if I must. Let me break it down then
Read the highlighted parts. “no more welcome than any other foreigner” is what it says. Can’t be any clearer
your edited green sentence is clearly entirely different in meaning to my sentence , and is clearly not wot i have written !
The-Snowman:
Now going by that logic I appreciate one could could also take “no LESS welcome than any other foreigner” from what you’ve written, implying that everyone is welcome to the same degree but lets just bear in mind its you we’re talking about here.
not so difficult is it ! i was defending slovaks who were being abused by a bulgari . that is entirely my meaning , and precisely why i wrote it that way .
it makes a change for our pet bulgari to kick the slovaks as he is normally putting the boot into asians .
as i have explained countless times my main problem with EU immigration is it discriminates against our friends in commonwealth countries . specifically : west indians , indians and afghanies .
i have also stated many times that i perceive all non english as foreign ( in fact the definition of foreign from an englishman ) and do not agree with making some foreigners less foreign than others . i believe an afghany or west indian has just as much right to emigrate to england as a slovak or bulgari .
the only reason i can make out that this is not the case is because most ex soviets are white and most asians are not , so i deduce EU immigration policy is discriminatory based on colour and thus racist .
i realise you will not manage to comprehend this , particularly as it is not a daily mail policy …
but Dolph with his superior to u language skills and intelligence certainly does . why dont you ask him ■■
then i will sit back and await my apology for your slander .
sentences of 1 word are sufficient .
boredwivdrivin:
Some load of back pedaling guff that I slipped into a coma reading
You can try to claim you’re not racist till you’re blue in the face but everyone knows it and nothing you can say now changes what you’ve posted countless times in the past. Any time you talk about eastern europeans or Scotland for example your posts drip with disdain and your hatred is barely concealed because you cant help yourself. The problem with you is you’re the worst kind of racist. You can’t see that’s what you are. You think there’s nothing wrong with some of the stuff you say. At least with a skin head neo ■■■■ they dont try to hide it .People like you always try to claim they aren’t but your mask slips countless times.
boredwivdrivin:
i will sit back and await my apology for your slander .
Slander is for a false accusation therefor I have nothing to issue an apology for.
Latest typical federalist type scare tactics and blackmail to interfere in the affairs of another country’s domestic election process.In which they are obviously using our open door immigration policy which won’t send them back as leverage for Cameron’s in campaign.IE the issue is our own immigration policy which we can toughen up if/when we’re out but which we can’t while we remain in because that would upset Merkel.
I heard that ^^^^ on the news today and listened cynically to the reports that the French upon Brexit will do nothing to stop the hordes from coming to our shores. Do nothing! In order to do that they’d need to be doing something now, which I see little or no evidence of.
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the closer we get to D day the more hysterical the IN campaigners become? Tbh I despise these career politicians that much that I’d vote the opposite way to them whichever way they voted on the basis that they want precisely that which benefits them the most, not my beloved country.
Why leave the vote until June, why such a LONG wait…■■?
Is so they can scare the ZB out of us between now and then??
I’m sick of all the scaremongering (ONLY by the IN camp) already… 