tofer:
I already said that if they are talking quietly amongst themselves and I couldn’t hear them it wouldn’t matter what language they used, your common room example is just being very pedantic and stretching the point. What I’m talking about is this scenario which I would imagine many could relate to.
You walk through the warehouse on the way to the traffic office to book in, all around you the warehouse staff are yelling to each other and chattering in Polish. This is rude, it is simple good manners to use English when working in an English warehouse in England, in my book but obviously standards of manners and politeness are very much lower where you come from my friend.
If, as you say, the warehouse staff are yelling and chattering in polish when you enter the warehouse, they are obviously more fluent in their mother language,and therefore, obviously more comfortable speaking in their native language. Can’t see the problem myself, I would doubt very much that they are talking about you, I would however consider it bad manners to listen to a strangers conversation. But then again, maybe the standards are much lower where you come from.
EnglishTrucker:
I clearly stated that if Polish drivers that can speak English are in a room full of Brits, and they can speak English, then it’s common courtesy to speak English in their presence.
Presumably, when you and another driver go to Belgium and are in a waiting room full of Belgians, then you talk to each other in Flemish?
The opinion of the general pubic is that truck drivers are inbred brain-dead morons and when you read a thread like this, who can blame them for thinking that way?
Breaker One-Nine:
If your grasp on other languages is as good as your written english then I wouldn’t bother as you would only make yourself look like a moron.
BLA BLA BLA,
All you seem to do is post useless ■■■■ that im not even intrested in dont like it, GTFO!
To be honest. I haven’t come across this. Normally if I meet a driver, he is just that, maybe a foreign driver or maybe a local, most times they greet you either in their local language or in mine.
Last week I was tipping in Staples in Corby and a Pole came in and we conversed in several languages. He offered me a cup of coffee from the machine. Of course being from Yorkshire. I accepted He was complaining that his trailer had been slashed where mine was left alone.
I know about 3 words in Hungarian yet our own Magyar drivers eyes light up if I greet them in their own language. Hodge Vodge. is all it takes to start a conversation with them, most of them will then speak back in broken English to me.
Wheel Nut:
To be honest. I haven’t come across this. Normally if I meet a driver, he is just that, maybe a foreign driver or maybe a local, most times they greet you either in their local language or in mine.
Last week I was tipping in Staples in Corby and a Pole came in and we conversed in several languages. He offered me a cup of coffee from the machine. Of course being from Yorkshire. I accepted He was complaining that his trailer had been slashed where mine was left alone.
I know about 3 words in Hungarian yet our own Magyar drivers eyes light up if I greet them in their own language. Hodge Vodge. is all it takes to start a conversation with them, most of them will then speak back in broken English to me.
Comes in handy to know a bit of basic stuff for a languages as said before they will respect you for taking the time just to even learn a basic sentance or greeting.
tofer:
I already said that if they are talking quietly amongst themselves and I couldn’t hear them it wouldn’t matter what language they used
Sorry then, I had to miss that.
You walk through the warehouse on the way to the traffic office to book in, all around you the warehouse staff are yelling to each other and chattering in Polish. This is rude, it is simple good manners to use English when working in an English warehouse in England, in my book but obviously standards of manners and politeness are very much lower where you come from my friend.
Question:
they are Polish
they are working there
they are speaking poor English
they are yelling job-related things.
Do you prefere them to yell in English and work bad due to not-too-perfect understanding, or to yell in Polish and work better? They aren’t yelling to you anyway…
tofer:
I already said that if they are talking quietly amongst themselves and I couldn’t hear them it wouldn’t matter what language they used
Sorry then, I had to miss that.
You walk through the warehouse on the way to the traffic office to book in, all around you the warehouse staff are yelling to each other and chattering in Polish. This is rude, it is simple good manners to use English when working in an English warehouse in England, in my book but obviously standards of manners and politeness are very much lower where you come from my friend.
Question:
they are Polish
they are working there
they are speaking poor English
they are yelling job-related things.
Do you prefere them to yell in English and work bad due to not-too-perfect understanding, or to yell in Polish and work better? They aren’t
yelling to you anyway…
I would prefer them to yell in english. What would happen if there was an accident about to happen and the polish worker was yelling in polish to MOVE OUT OF THE WAY and the english worker who unfortunately being in his native country did not take the time to learn polish or whatever language was being spoken at the time, so therefore could not understand him was seriously injured. Surely there is a conflict in health and safety as the workers cannot communicate effectively together.
Joshh:
Comes in handy to know a bit of basic stuff for a languages as said before they will respect you for taking the time just to even learn a basic sentance or greeting.
I can’t be the only user of this forum who is genuinely embarrassed at the level of literacy of someone who claims to still be in an educational environment….
Excuse me but this dogmatic call to be perfect in the layout and grammer , when one places a post on the site .Is makeing my blood pressure rise, if you(THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAING) are getting upset because, of those of us, me included, who make mistakes, please, take a long ride or walk off a short pier , your being so derogertive may stop people who wish to join and post but are now frightened of being made to look fools, I left school over 40years ago, and at present do not wish to return,if you do so wish to teach the Queens english then set up your own site , for this and teach those who join you,
brit pete: Excuse me but this dogmatic call to be perfect in the layout and grammer , when one places a post on the site .Is makeing my blood pressure rise, if you(THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAING) are getting upset because, of those of us, me included, who make mistakes, please, take a long ride or walk off a short pier , your being so derogertive may stop people who wish to join and post but are now frightened of being made to look fools, I left school over 40years ago, and at present do not wish to return,if you do so wish to teach the Queens english then set up your own site , for this and teach those who join you,
Calm down dear, surely I made a valid statement on a post where some posters are having a go a foreign drivers to the UK’s shores not speaking English? Pete, we’re not all perfect, just some are less perfect than others. You’re far too easy to wind up sometimes, which makes it hard for me not to post the comments that I do.
yes, true, however ,I enjoy the exchange of views but get annoyed when the cry for perfection is shouted out,I have the same problem when I post on the german site as , i make mistakes also, as a native speaker writes differently to one who has learnt (german) IT as a second language.Thankfully my friends tell those who complain to leg it, yes i could use a spell check but to me this site like any that I use is a friend and so, my friends take me as i am ,unless i abuse them,
codge123:
I would prefer them to yell in english. What would happen if there was an accident about to happen and the polish worker was yelling in polish to MOVE OUT OF THE WAY and the english worker who unfortunately being in his native country did not take the time to learn polish or whatever language was being spoken at the time, so therefore could not understand him was seriously injured. Surely there is a conflict in health and safety as the workers cannot communicate effectively together.
Ok, but then:
if they speak English, they propably speak Polish between themselves and English to everyone else. So if you will be in danger, and they don’t know you, they will propably adress you in English - that’s what I do to everyone, and when I spot Polish accent, I change to Polish
If some of them don’t speak English and there is warehouse full of Poles it’s better to yell in Polish in emergency, as there will be only one English guy who will die if he won’t speak Polish and is not smart enaugh to run when everyone else are running. If they warn you in English, you will run away and few of them who speak English as well, but the rest will stay on place, as they won’t understand and there won’t be situation that everyone else is running away
Anyway, that’s too streched example and I was told to do not discuss them, so treat that as an off-topic
Pete, no offence was meant. I love to play devils advocate, dunno why, but I learnt from a master at it, my father. So I suppose I’m just keeping family tradition. I have noticed however, it is hard to translate derision in the written word without pointing it out, which to my mind rather spoils the fun, of sarcasm that is. Before someone else says it, yes I do know that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
dont forget guys that english is the most common spoken language in the world. it might be more fair, but you couldnt expect the english (BRITISH LOL) to speak polish in poland simply because we as a nation dont learn other foreign languages.
whereas alot of other nations learn english as a second language.
if i could speak french and i was in france i think i would want to speak french whilst with the natives, why else learn the ■■■■■■■ language?
btw english vs polish who’s best?
workers - polish
women - polish
not taking advantage of other countries system - english
arguing - unsure… orys is good lol!!
football - english