English polish whos best

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milodon:
sorry, did not mean to post this, just in case someone who enjoys arguing more than working or anything else for that matter, comes along

Hey let us have a good rant !! After all there aint many working :smiley:

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If polish truck drivers are anything like the polish warehousemen I’ve had with me over the past couple of years the lack of english is more than made up for with a good working attatude. I’ve had to work with quite a few temps in the wh before I got on the lorry and the locals would stand texting all day saying “thats not my job” whereas 4/5 of the eastern euro’s done their best to speak english and got on with the job no questions asked.

And I’m not saying all British workers are wasters and all Poles are good, its just the attatude towards “getting on with it” I noticed

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Right then this is to the anti british,if we are so lazy and bad at our jobs why the silly WTD. And to all the smart alex who wine on about us not being able speak other lingo,s which 0ne would you like us to learn then german, italian,french,dutch, spanish,czech,need i go on you dont think those character,sspeak all those languages, they all use the common one that just happens to be english, take your rose tinted specs off and lay off the british,by the way i hate the word BRIT,can not stand it

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FFS, Put it into perspective, the guy got talking to somebody from his home nation, and they had a conversation in their native language, what the fock is so wrong? :unamused:

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Adam_Mc:

ANDY1961:

EnglishTrucker:
The Polish could do themselves a favour and try and integrate a bit more. I was at Tesco’s in Thurrock yesterday and had to listen to a few Polish drivers babbling on in Polish, for what seemed like hours. If both of them can speak English (which they should all be able to do, considering all the road signs are in English etc) then do everyone a favour and have your conversation in English. After all they are in England.

I approached a driver yesterday and said “hello”, to which the reply was, “No English, sorry”. The guy was driving a UK registered truck FFS. Get on a language course and learn then!!! :imp:

Mmmm…a bit of underlying racism there then. :unamused: :unamused:

As others have said - it would be interesting to see if you’d be prepared to converse in Polish if you were over there…

Fat chance!

Clearly you and the other guys have missed the point. What EnglishTrucker means is that the Polish drivers who LIVE and work here should be speaking English, I agree with what he says. If it was a Polish driver who was just doing an international trip, then thats fair enough for them to carry on speaking Polish, but if they live here then they should speak English. If I moved to Poland then I’d learn the language and try to speak it as often as I could, if I was just doing a trip over there then I’d carry on speaking English. As there aren’t many English people living in Poland, I’m sure ANDY1961 would learn the language if he moved over there!

You need to visit Spain if you think the British expats blend in and integrate.

Nonetheless, generally : loads of British tourists/expats (at least in Costa del Sol) live in an almost total isolation to Spanish people.

The Spaniards just let the Brits do their own thing (which they do, in their “British-only ghettos”) and laugh at them from a distance.

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I polished my pole and he was sick!!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :wink:

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Deepinvet:
I polished my pole and he was sick!!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :wink:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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ANDY1961:

EnglishTrucker:
The Polish could do themselves a favour and try and integrate a bit more. I was at Tesco’s in Thurrock yesterday and had to listen to a few Polish drivers babbling on in Polish, for what seemed like hours. If both of them can speak English (which they should all be able to do, considering all the road signs are in English etc) then do everyone a favour and have your conversation in English. After all they are in England.

I approached a driver yesterday and said “hello”, to which the reply was, “No English, sorry”. The guy was driving a UK registered truck FFS. Get on a language course and learn then!!! :imp:

Mmmm…a bit of underlying racism there then. :unamused: :unamused:

As others have said - it would be interesting to see if you’d be prepared to converse in Polish if you were over there…

Fat chance!

Are you accusing me of being a racist■■? This is a public forum, so point out what I have said that is racist. Be very careful, as I will pursue it further if that is what you are accusing me of!!!

I clearly stated that if Polish drivers that can speak English are in a room full of Brits, and they can speak English, then it’s common courtesy to speak English in their presence. Furthermore, I also stated that if they are living and working in this country and they can’t speak English they should get on a language course. How is that racist?

I can’t speak Polish, and I haven’t the desire to do so either. I don’t go to Poland. However if I moved to another country and took a job in that country (Spain for example) then I would enrol on a language course to help me integrate more. Ignorance is foreign people expecting the local people to adapt to THEM rather than the other way around. That goes for Brits moving abroad also.

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Do all you English drivers speak Welsh to each other when in Wales? How far do you want to take this argument?
Speak whatever language you want to your mates wherever you are. Equally - if in a foreign country, bear in mind that they do have their own language.

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gardun:
Do all you English drivers speak Welsh to each other when in Wales? How far do you want to take this argument?
Speak whatever language you want to your mates wherever you are. Equally - if in a foreign country, bear in mind that they do have their own language.

To be fair in Wales you can reasonably expect the natives to be able to understand English.

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tofer:

gardun:
Do all you English drivers speak Welsh to each other when in Wales? How far do you want to take this argument?
Speak whatever language you want to your mates wherever you are. Equally - if in a foreign country, bear in mind that they do have their own language.

To be fair in Wales you can reasonably expect the natives to be able to understand English.

Sometimes :laughing: :laughing:

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What I want to know is when you come to the West Midlands do you speak Brummie with your mates so the locals can understand? :smiley: :smiley:

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fuse:
‘…i hate the word BRIT,can not stand it…’

Agreed: It was popularly coined for being derogatory by the fun-loving Irish Republican Army people - which is history now that they’re fornicating themselves to a N. Ireland majority & we’re all friends in Europe.

However, my ■■■■ pouts at its pseudo-trendy, contemporary yet slack, offensively witless laziness.

Is a ‘Briton’ being from ‘Britain’ and having ‘British’ nationality really so hard to communicate?

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Adam_Mc:
but if they live here then they should speak English.

Should I speak with my girl in English? We both living, studying and working here. And is it apply to public places, or should I speak with her in English at our own home as well? ;D

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While we are on it.My Mrs`s flat was rented to Polish couple,that she never met.In the past English occupants left it with tobaco staining on the walls,and kept a dog there.The Poles left the property immaculate,and repaired and cleaned the place in a better state,before they moved in.

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I do find it very rude when two people who have a different mother tongue or a secondary lamguage carry on a conversation in it in the prescence of English speakers. Ideally I’d like it not too happen anywhere ie pubs, restaurants on buses etc, but obviously it’s a free country. But when in a workplace English should be used at all times and I would consider it a disciplinary offence to be using a foreign language in front of other workers.

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tofer:
I do find it very rude when two people who have a different mother tongue or a secondary lamguage carry on a conversation in it in the prescence of English speakers.

What about two English speakers carry on a conversation in it in presence of speakers of other languages? Say, what about all this signs “For Sale” in France?

Ideally I’d like it not too happen anywhere ie pubs, restaurants on buses etc, but obviously it’s a free country. But when in a workplace English should be used at all times and I would consider it a disciplinary offence to be using a foreign language in front of other workers.

But tell me one thing: if two people are speaking about their private issues and what they are speaking is not destined for your ears anyway, what’s the difference for you if they speak Polish, Chinese or just quietly in English?

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Because if they are speaking in foreign then they could be slagging me off. If they are speaking quietly amongst themselves then it matters not what they are saying because I wouldn’t be able to hear them. If the two English speakers are conversing in English in France then they are also rude in my book. I for one wouldn’t expect to be able to work in France without being able to speak French. Obviously I’m lucky in that most French people would be able to understand English but I’d still make the effort to learn French and use it where appropriate. If the two English speakers are in England then if the foreigner cannot understand them then it is their own fault. But in a WORKPLACE, which is a BUSINESS PREMISES then ENGLISH should be used at all times. And before you try to split any hairs, Orys, then if say a Spanish driver was delivering here I wouldn’t expect him to be able to speak much English but if he wanted to reside here and work here I’d ■■■■ well expect him to learn.

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Hm.

  • I am at Scottish University, I am sitting in the common room and I am discussing with my Polish clasmate differences between Polish and Czech language. Should I do it in English? (English don’t even have the words to describe differences between two slavic languages, or at last it’s no chance for me to know such words). Other student’s can hear our conversation, but they are, say, math students and they don’t care about this subject.
  • If your two Polish drivers are speaking quietly between themselves and you can’t hear anyway what they are talking about what’s the difference for you what language they spoke?

But:

  • If they are speaking lauder then others, it’s rude, but because of the noise, not the language
  • If they are taking part in some conversation among everyone (if it’s not only their own conversation) and suddenly they are exchanging something in Polish it’s rude (as it’s whispering in such situation).
  • I do also agree that you should speak at least basic language if you are to settle in foreign country.
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I already said that if they are talking quietly amongst themselves and I couldn’t hear them it wouldn’t matter what language they used, your common room example is just being very pedantic and stretching the point. What I’m talking about is this scenario which I would imagine many could relate to.

You walk through the warehouse on the way to the traffic office to book in, all around you the warehouse staff are yelling to each other and chattering in Polish. This is rude, it is simple good manners to use English when working in an English warehouse in England, in my book but obviously standards of manners and politeness are very much lower where you come from my friend.