watching last nights rubbish, i think worrying about the name of your wagon should be the last thing on that kids mind,his driving style to my mind left a lot to be desired! if steady Eddie was watching,he might get a call to the office!!..chris
now where is my Pink hairband!!
I retired from fuel delivery driving last may,after 35 years, just at the right time i think.
Dieselcowboy:
the only thing they are interested in is profit I’m afraid to say.
You go into business to earn money, that money earned is called profit 
Stobarts may be ruthless, but ruthless to want their bank balance to grow, personally I wouldnt care how I was percieved if I had the same bank balance and lifestyle of Zig n Zag at Stobarts.
If they ever ventured into general purpose tanker work on chemicals,solvents and all other liquids you would be approaching retirement age before completing all the training I used to train drivers on tank work and an experienced driver would be up to speed by Wednesday or Thursday of one weeks training they got Monday morning in the passenger seat and then we swapped over for the rest of the week and they received a written booklet with all the basics on and instructions to always ask if unsure and this worked in the 70s before elf an safety and hazchem courses came in.
Cheers Johnnie
How true, this was the norm on the fuel work too.
Hi when a new driver started with our company they usually put them out with myself or one of the long service drivers, Most of them had never driven tankers so they got 3 weeks training or more if they needed it, I did the driving the first day then they took over I did the loading offloading with them watching. Loading at all the different terminals took up most of the time as they all have different systems. the job involved putting a delivery hose to customers tank connecting a jumper hose switch on pto and deliver into storage. Most drivers could do all of this within 2weeks then they followed a driver for a week ie 2 loads to the same depot. I dont know why stobarts has 6 month training as i dont think they do gravity drops (petrol & derv underground) seems a bit excessive .But good luck to them there getting paid during the training period.
matt watson:
Hi,
When we had any new starts on fuel tankers they went out with myself or one of the long service drivers. If they had not driven tanks before they had 3 weeks training. I drove the first day after that they took over. The worst part was loading at the terminals as they all have there own systems.Most drivers were able to load …offload within 2 weeks, then they followed another driver for a week to the same delivery (ie 2 loads to the same depot), all these deliveries involved taking one hose to customers tank , connect a jumper hose put PTO on and watch load discharging, the problems are none of them are trained in gravity drops (petrol & derv) vapour recovery etc, a lot of tanker drivers including Stobarts would not have a clue about this side of the job, I am not trying to be disrespectful in any way as I know there is more to driving fuel tanks , I have been driving them for 35years, but 6 months training is excessive.
Same time on them myself i agree with you, i don’t think their tanks were 6 months old when this was stated.vic.
matt watson:
Hi,
When we had any new starts on fuel tankers they went out with myself or one of the long service drivers. If they had not driven tanks before they had 3 weeks training. I drove the first day after that they took over. The worst part was loading at the terminals as they all have there own systems.Most drivers were able to load …offload within 2 weeks, then they followed another driver for a week to the same delivery (ie 2 loads to the same depot), all these deliveries involved taking one hose to customers tank , connect a jumper hose put PTO on and watch load discharging, the problems are none of them are trained in gravity drops (petrol & derv) vapour recovery etc, a lot of tanker drivers including Stobarts would not have a clue about this side of the job, I am not trying to be disrespectful in any way as I know there is more to driving fuel tanks , I have been driving them for 35years, but 6 months training is excessive.
Yea but your talking about “elves in green overalls” Matt!!! I could write a book on “trained” tanker drivers delivering derv to our depot!!! don’t get me started!! Bewick.
For those who may not be aware, there are special procedures for gravity discharge, especially when delivering Petrol and Diesel to below-ground storage tanks, such as at garage forecourts. (ACD and DCD.)
There is usually a different procedure (involving a pump) when delivering to above-ground storage tanks.
Thanks dieseldave &Bewick ive just joined this site ive put a few photos of tankers i drove in scotland on the oil companies page and on the tanker companies page (globe petroleum 1970s). I hope i wasnt being disrespectful to anyone but i know and have trained a few drivers who use a company like the one i worked for as a ist step to the big companies. when they go to the major companies they think they know it all after 6months, I am still learning every day i go out on the road and if i am not sure about something i always ask. sorry about the caplocks on my last post regards matt.
matt watson:
Thanks dieseldave &Bewick ive just joined this site ive put a few photos of tankers i drove in scotland on the oil companies page and on the tanker companies page (globe petroleum 1970s). I hope i wasnt being disrespectful to anyone but i know and have trained a few drivers who use a company like the one i worked for as a ist step to the big companies. when they go to the major companies they think they know it all after 6months, I am still learning every day i go out on the road and if i am not sure about something i always ask. sorry about the caplocks on my last post regards matt.
Hi Matt,
The capslock was no big deal, but it did make it look like you were shouting.
Nice pics too. 
Regards,
Dave.
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For those who are wondering where the rest of the posts went to, I’ve split them into their own new and interesting topic at Malc’s suggestion so that both topics can stay on-track as separate entities.
Thanks for the suggestion Malc.
The new topic is here:
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Bewick’s fuel deliveries [Split from Eddie Stobarts Tanker.]
Just to keep this one going…
Does anybody know how many petrol tankers Eddie Stobart’s are running?
I’m told they are running 5 tankers on fuels deliveries, knowing Stobarts I doubt that number will stay the same for long
Sniffy:
I’m told they are running 5 tankers on fuels deliveries, knowing Stobarts I doubt that number will stay the same for long
Hi Sniffy,
I guessed that it might be a toe-dipping exercise, but I wasn’t sure how many thery’re running.
Whatever people may think about Eddie Stobart’s, I doubt they went into the fuel game on a whim, so ES tankers might well become an increasing sight on the roads.
Hi dave i posted this on the bewick thread instead of stobarts, I have not watched the tv series so i did not know stobarts delivered fuel for tesco. Up here in scotland the tesco fuel has been delivered for a good number of years by TDG, Then i learned yesterday that NORBERT DENTRASSANGLE have taken over TDG The yard at Grangemouth where Tesco park the tankers has been sold and there was talk of them moving them to Tesco Livingston.I wonder if stobart will take over up here. As you said dave they did not go into the fuel business for nothing,I think we will see more stobarts tankers on the road.
matt watson:
Hi dave i posted this on the bewick thread instead of stobarts, I have not watched the tv series so i did not know stobarts delivered fuel for tesco. Up here in scotland the tesco fuel has been delivered for a good number of years by TDG, Then i learned yesterday that NORBERT DENTRASSANGLE have taken over TDG The yard at Grangemouth where Tesco park the tankers has been sold and there was talk of them moving them to Tesco Livingston.I wonder if stobart will take over up here. As you said dave they did not go into the fuel business for nothing,I think we will see more stobarts tankers on the road.
Hi Matt,
Again, no problem mate.
I looked at Malc’s suggestion that the OP topic about Stobart’s petrol tanker had developed, so it seemed logical to split it into a separate topic because Dennis has a great perspective on the customer’s side of the fuel delivery story.
It’s all about putting the right product into the right receiving tank and watching the ullage!! 
dieseldave:
I looked at Malc’s suggestion that the OP topic about Stobart’s petrol tanker had developed, so it seemed logical to split it into a separate topic because Dennis has a great perspective on the customer’s side of the fuel delivery story.
That is the problem with a GP barrel and a manifold, Contamination 
Wheel Nut:
dieseldave:
I looked at Malc’s suggestion that the OP topic about Stobart’s petrol tanker had developed, so it seemed logical to split it into a separate topic because Dennis has a great perspective on the customer’s side of the fuel delivery story.
That is the problem with a GP barrel and a manifold, Contamination
Or an interleak between pots.
Another one ready for the road
Sniffy:
Another one ready for the road
Ooh Sniffy, you will have those three wheeler hugging transvestites after you for stealing their thunder
sammyopisite:
If they ever ventured into general purpose tanker work on chemicals,solvents and all other liquids you would be approaching retirement age before completing all the training I used to train drivers on tank work and an experienced driver would be up to speed by Wednesday or Thursday of one weeks training they got Monday morning in the passenger seat and then we swapped over for the rest of the week and they received a written booklet with all the basics on and instructions to always ask if unsure and this worked in the 70s before elf an safety and hazchem courses came in.
Cheers Johnnie
I was told a little story by an ex Harold Wood driver who I worked with.
When you loaded a new product, you always got a gallon out of the back valve, then when you got home, you sniffed it, you poured a little on the concrete floor and you poured some on the garden. after all this you dropped a match in some product left on the floor
If it bubbled on concrete, you gave some to the wife to clean the kitchen floor
If it bubbled on the grass you used it in the greenhouse and allotment to kill weeds.
If it didn’t bubble at all, you used it to clean your windscreen and mirrors
If it caught fire, you put it in your car and went to work for free all next week
There is no wonder Hazchem was invented