bald bloke:
Having just watched it again i’d say the Waitrose driver was getting annoyed because the car driver was leaving a large gap between himself and the vehicle in front and was trying to speed the car up.
All depends what speed the car is doing. If the car is doing 40mph as per the speed limit then the truck driver truly needs to question his actions. If a few more drivers kept sensible separation distances then we’d all be sitting in far less aftermaths of when things go wrong.
So if the car was doing less then 40 mph then that makes it ok what the Waitrose driver was doing does it ?
Errr no, but there is another lane there if the Waitrose driver wants to overtake slower moving vehicles, whilst still keeping within the speed limit. If the car driver is doing 40mph and the Waitrose driver is trying to bully him into going faster (which we don’t know) then in that situation he would fully deserve to have his HGV license revoked as someone unfit to hold one.
Outside lane had a width restriction apparently so he couldn’t overtake, he is definitely bullying that Vauxhall driver into closing the gap with the car in front.
What differance does it make what speed the car was doing, (I’ve lost count how many times the “holier than thou” brigade on these forums have outrightly stated "the speed limit is the maximum, NOT a target!!! ) the waitrose truck was too close, end of…
Big Al the frying scotsman:
Wtf are you drivin man?? I thought ye were a bad mother trucker??
Sorry but this ■■■■ WTD bollox means I’m occasionally forced to take a day off. Just as a two finger salut to the EU muppets I go and drive up and down motorways for 9 hours anyway.
Saw this yesterday but refrained from commenting. Personally if it was me driving the car then the Waitrose driver would be getting a brake test, I have a really strong dislike for muppits like the Waitrose driver that think it is perfectly fine to tailgate like that.
nick2008:
so you sat along side him so even if he wanted to pass he couldn’t …maybe the car driver was playing silly buggers earlier
Do you have a license? A truck cannot go in the outside lane of a 3 or more lane motorway so it doesn’t matter a toss if the OP was alongside him as the truck cannot use that lane anyway.
But he maybe would if he had to take evasive action, he wouldnt want to take it off road would he! although some do.
Why would he need to take evasive action if he had sufficient stopping space?
I reaĺly can’t believe some of the comments here defending the driving and trying to even justify it by blaming the car driver (who had road position first - and was keeping a constant speed, using a lane they are entitled to use) the car wasn’t playing silly buggers either - the footage is 5 minutes long but it’s been edited as the truck and car weren’t close to start with.
The angle of the camera doesn’t make any difference either to how the gap is percieved. As my speed matched the truck at one point and he still got closer to the car then that can’t be camera trickery.
I’m all for drivers sticking together but some of you defending this seriously need to consider returning your licences if you really do think this is acceptable.
If the car driver decided to brake test him,and since he doesnt have the stopping distance, his likely response is to sling it into lane 2.
I’m not defending the HGV screwdriver.
Seany:
How does the camera move to the side? Isn’t it a fixed dashcam?
No, I splashed out the extra cost and got the passenger operated upgrade.
Looks driver operated to me at that angle. The driver needs a talking to anyway. Looks like he hasn’t got the bottle to tailgate properly, there’s plenty of room between them.
ajt:
Don’t know what the big deal is. There was only one point in the video the truck was too close towards dangerous levels (36 seconds). He was hardly harassing the car driver throughout the duration of the film especially when you notice its also a fair hill he’s going down, just the typical gap you get in roadworks (real world gap - not the truck.net ambassadress for safe driving forum gap).
Car driver was clearly well under the limit anyway (see the speed in which the camera car was initially flying past the truck) - some gentle encouragement is needed at times. Its only on here the ‘‘perfect world’’ exists
At no point in the entire film is the truck driver at anywhere near a reasonable distance from the car in front. Pick any point where the car passes and count 2 seconds. If the truck passes that point before the 2 seconds is up it is too close. Most of the time its not even 1 second.
The “large gap” that bald bloke said the car driver was leaving to the van in front is actually the gap that should be left and that the Waitrose wagon should have been behind the car.
Christ the number of morons in this thread who can’t even recognise tailgating is seriously worrying.
Conor I went through that same stretch of M1 last week and followed an arctic from start to finish, all 20 miles of it and he sat about 10-20 feet off the back bumper of a car the whole way through. All lanes had heavy traffic on and there was nowhere for this car to go. My cruise was set at 72km/h and every other vehicle was doing similar. Except I had about a 50 yard gap to the car in front. This truck was dabbing his brakes several times a minute. Had anything happened up ahead that required en emergency stop this car would’ve copped for it, 100%.
As we exited the road works he was about 100 yards in front of me, maybe a little but more. Just seems so pointless getting all enraged and impatient for what might as well be no gain whatsoever. Just back the cruise off and relax FFS
isaac hunt:
Way to go, if you’re trying to get that fella the sack.
Let him without sin cast the first stone.
Exactly this ^ . The only danger I’m seeing is some nob called m1cks not concentrating on where he’s going because he’s too busy turning his new dashcam around trying to get some footage for youtube for people to froth over.
That ■■■■ happens day in, day out. Nothing to see here, move along.
Left hand down!:
That [zb] happens day in, day out. Nothing to see here, move along.
Yes, it happens every day. And it bloody shouldn’t. Maybe if enough highway hardmen in their big man rigs lose their jobs the roads might get a tad safer. After all, it’s these numpties who close motorways off and create the very thing that makes them so impatient in the first place.
ajt:
Don’t know what the big deal is. There was only one point in the video the truck was too close towards dangerous levels (36 seconds). He was hardly harassing the car driver throughout the duration of the film especially when you notice its also a fair hill he’s going down, just the typical gap you get in roadworks (real world gap - not the truck.net ambassadress for safe driving forum gap).
Car driver was clearly well under the limit anyway (see the speed in which the camera car was initially flying past the truck) - some gentle encouragement is needed at times. Its only on here the ‘‘perfect world’’ exists
At no point in the entire film is the truck driver at anywhere near a reasonable distance from the car in front. Pick any point where the car passes and count 2 seconds. If the truck passes that point before the 2 seconds is up it is too close. Most of the time its not even 1 second.
The “large gap” that bald bloke said the car driver was leaving to the van in front is actually the gap that should be left and that the Waitrose wagon should have been behind the car.
Christ the number of morons in this thread who can’t even recognise tailgating is seriously worrying.
Your theory is correct in internet land sat behind a PC but in the ‘‘real world’’ of what actually happens nobody follows a 2 second rule when driving through roadworks at 40mph especially when someone isn’t doing anywhere near the actual limit (rightly or wrongly). Its follow my leader bumper to bumper stylee.
What were talking about here though is, is the trucker effectively bullying the car driver. IMO no because the gap varys all the way through the film which is pretty clear to see, there is a gradient, the gap does open, it does close, he brakes sometimes he doesn’t others. Is he too close, probably yes in the ideal world, does this vid show a driver trying to bully another, no - just a typical scene from a set of roadworks.
Terry T:
Conor I went through that same stretch of M1 last week and followed an arctic from start to finish, all 20 miles of it and he sat about 10-20 feet off the back bumper of a car the whole way through. All lanes had heavy traffic on and there was nowhere for this car to go. My cruise was set at 72km/h and every other vehicle was doing similar. Except I had about a 50 yard gap to the car in front. This truck was dabbing his brakes several times a minute. Had anything happened up ahead that required en emergency stop this car would’ve copped for it, 100%.
As we exited the road works he was about 100 yards in front of me, maybe a little but more. Just seems so pointless getting all enraged and impatient for what might as well be no gain whatsoever. Just back the cruise off and relax FFS
To be honest I wouldn’t post a video of another driver like this. It doesn’t matter if they are in the wrong or not. Nobody’s perfect. I see stuff like this all the time. Glass houses and all that…
Terry T:
Conor I went through that same stretch of M1 last week and followed an arctic from start to finish, all 20 miles of it and he sat about 10-20 feet off the back bumper of a car the whole way through. All lanes had heavy traffic on and there was nowhere for this car to go. My cruise was set at 72km/h and every other vehicle was doing similar. Except I had about a 50 yard gap to the car in front. This truck was dabbing his brakes several times a minute. Had anything happened up ahead that required en emergency stop this car would’ve copped for it, 100%.
As we exited the road works he was about 100 yards in front of me, maybe a little but more. Just seems so pointless getting all enraged and impatient for what might as well be no gain whatsoever. Just back the cruise off and relax FFS
Looks like the A23 to me.
Conor:
Just got back to wagon driving last week and went down the roadworks on the M1. Plenty of night trunk drivers for pallet firms sitting right up the arse of the car in front and it was nothing to do with angles of view. I was looking at the lane lines on the road and they were closer than one. Absolute madness.
Seany:
To be honest I wouldn’t post a video of another driver like this. It doesn’t matter if they are in the wrong or not. Nobody’s perfect. I see stuff like this all the time. Glass houses and all that…
Conor:
Christ the number of morons in this thread who can’t even recognise tailgating is seriously worrying.
It’s worse than that actually. Some seem to recognise it as tailgating and are pretty much saying it happens every day and that they don’t care, it’s normal. No wonder we’re so hated.
ajt:
Your theory is correct in internet land sat behind a PC but in the ‘‘real world’’ of what actually happens nobody follows a 2 second rule when driving through roadworks at 40mph especially when someone isn’t doing anywhere near the actual limit (rightly or wrongly). Its follow my leader bumper to bumper stylee.
