Doomsday September 10th 2014!

Spend less time whining about it :cry: and just do it…we have all known it was coming. If you really want to carry on driving a Truck or Coach you would have done at least some of it by now !!!

Beggars belief that there are drivers, who want to carry on driving, still whining about how they can’t afford to do the DCPC less than 6 months before it comes into force :open_mouth: We have known about it for years. I can only assume the OP has been one of the seemingly many who’s had their fingers in their ears saying “la la la” hoping it’ll all go away, being led on by delusional know-it-all’s like the bloke with the video on page 1.

True story. A lad I know has not done one second towards his dcpc, because he has got to pay for it himself, however just over two years ago, spent just under 1900 quid of his own money on a leather interior, engine hump cover and posh cupboards on his employers 02 plate 164 480 V8. Madness :open_mouth:

I feel the same way as the OP. As an agency driver on a full-time dedicated assignment to a single contract, it is a kick in the teeth to see my colleagues names going up on the noticeboard each week for their free CPC modules, while I get nothing. I will NOT donate a couple of weeks take-home pay to the biggest logistics company in the world simply to allow them to carry on using my services for a rock-bottom renumeration. So when it comes to it, yes I will stop driving and I will go back to my previous career because I’m only driving for personal enjoyment anyway.

You’ve had 5 yrs to get you cpc…have you been skint for the last 5 yrs ■■?

I haven’t been skint for the last 5 years, but I haven’t been driving either.

In fact I could pay for CPC on a credit card, not a problem, but I’m not bothered enough.

Semtex:

Juddian:
I wonder if dole will apply, somehow i doubt it.

Somehow I think your right, you will be deemed to have made yourself “voluntarily unemployed” by not doing the course and therefore will be sanctioned for upto 6 months.

It might be different if you had say done 4 out of the 5 but not for doing none.

Not sure this is correct. Dec 2012 I jacked a job in as I’d sorted another to start back end of January. I got an interview with the jobcentre as I wanted to make sure my stamp would be paid while unemployed, the chap told me I was entitled to dole money even though I had voluntarily given up work, I asked him three times if that was correct and he confirmed it each time. I got the info regarding pension entitlement &turned the dole money down.

Slackbladder:

Semtex:

Juddian:
I wonder if dole will apply, somehow i doubt it.

Somehow I think your right, you will be deemed to have made yourself “voluntarily unemployed” by not doing the course and therefore will be sanctioned for upto 6 months.

It might be different if you had say done 4 out of the 5 but not for doing none.

Not sure this is correct. Dec 2012 I jacked a job in as I’d sorted another to start back end of January. I got an interview with the jobcentre as I wanted to make sure my stamp would be paid while unemployed, the chap told me I was entitled to dole money even though I had voluntarily given up work, I asked him three times if that was correct and he confirmed it each time. I got the info regarding pension entitlement &turned the dole money down.

Dole has changed a lot since 2012

I just got my Blue card through today.

I am self employed and agency, it was not necessary but the agency put me through my dcpc with no strings attached.

It wasn’t a cheap course either, but no I didn’t learn anything new. Yes it’s crap but it is also a legal requirement.

Was there all this fuss in 2006 when digi cards were brought in?

trubster:
Was there all this fuss in 2006 when digi cards were brought in?

Yep, everyone was bleating about how they weren’t gonna pay for it as tacho discs were supplied by the company and so should these new fangled digi things.

Some (not many) had them paid for by the firm, most just had to ■■■■ it up and pay for it.

All these drivers saying they wouldn’t pay and were gonna pack it in was going to create a “driver shortage”

Sound familiar?

Semtex:

trubster:
Was there all this fuss in 2006 when digi cards were brought in?

Yep, everyone was bleating about how they weren’t gonna pay for it as tacho discs were supplied by the company and so should these new fangled digi things.

Some (not many) had them paid for by the firm, most just had to ■■■■ it up and pay for it.

All these drivers saying they wouldn’t pay and were gonna pack it in was going to create a “driver shortage”

Sound familiar?

BIG difference between applying for a bit of plastic and paying & losing good money to sit in a classroom for 5 days :wink: also there was 40,000 new drivers coming into the industry every year back then against 9,000 now. Please don’t give me the EEs will fill the gap BS as any that were going to come over a already here.

When will people realise that it is something that they need by September and have had five years to get,not five minutes. Cannot understand the mentality of folk who will spend there own hard earned money to get a licence then basically throw it in the bin because they cannot be bothered to do this dcpc.
I know we shoudn`t have to do another so-called qualification but doing the course is worth it for me, because it basically keeps me in a job. Anyway doing the courses is worth it just for the comedy value of the bull that comes from so-called trainers mouths.

Yes its crap but theres quite a few other professions have to do crap like this. Even if you have to pay for it 350 over five years isnt a kings ransom cant see it been scraped as everyone whos done it and all the training providers would be suing the government. Im lucky in that my employer pays for all our training.

kr79:
Yes its crap but theres quite a few other professions have to do crap like this. Even if you have to pay for it 350 over five years isnt a kings ransom cant see it been scraped as everyone whos done it and all the training providers would be suing the government. Im lucky in that my employer pays for all our training.

Would they be suing for there money back it’s not that long ago that all houses had to have a HIP pack before selling so loads got trained only for the government to change there mind none got there money back.

trubster:
Was there all this fuss in 2006 when digi cards were brought in?

No matter whether you like them or not driver cards and digital tachographs do actually serve a useful purpose, the periodic Driver CPC serves no useful purpose other than making money for some people.

mac12:

kr79:
Yes its crap but theres quite a few other professions have to do crap like this. Even if you have to pay for it 350 over five years isnt a kings ransom cant see it been scraped as everyone whos done it and all the training providers would be suing the government. Im lucky in that my employer pays for all our training.

Would they be suing for there money back it’s not that long ago that all houses had to have a HIP pack before selling so loads got trained only for the government to change there mind none got there money back.

The big difference is that HIP was a UK-only idea, no EU pressures, and those that did the training were generally individuals rather than larger companies, hence little pressure when they disappeared.

tachograph:
No matter whether you like them or not driver cards and digital tachographs do actually serve a useful purpose, the periodic Driver CPC serves no useful purpose other than making money for some people.

+1

Anyone seen this months truck n driver, the letters page has a chap who’s actually written to the prime minister with the thesis that the whole cpc is in fact illegal, obviously this has prob been heavily covered before on tnuk but it’s impressive if you want to give it a butchers.

Apparently vosa consider that any extra time outside of work ,‘studying’ the wretched thing should by definition be paid for as work, but those lucky enough on here not to have suffered in the economic meltdown as myself and others have done should but the f…k out and stop this smug ‘I’m alright jack’ posturing.

I sincerely hope the writer goes to this forum as I would like to swap notes and see how we can feasibly launch a legal action.The culture of blighty is default cow towance to the man and this familiar chestnut about ‘werenot like the French’ is sadly a reflection of a country that talks good about rebellion, yet gathers in its pathetic multitudes to wave union jacks at a bunch of horse faced inbreds, thus confirming their implicit love of the chains that bind them.

It might come as a surprise but the majority of work sectors you have to go on training or class room based courses so we aren’t special.

For all the inconvenience and expense in some peoples cases, going by some of the dodgy practices you see on a daily basis maybe its not such a bad thing…

ROG:

tachograph:
No matter whether you like them or not driver cards and digital tachographs do actually serve a useful purpose, the periodic Driver CPC serves no useful purpose other than making money for some people.

+1

I agree with this 100%. If these courses were any good you wouldn’t get so many questions on the basics on this forum. They missed a great chance to weed out the poor drivers by not having pass/fail tests & the teaching should be much more rigorously checked. The amount of incorrect information given out, as reported by those that have attended, is alarming & will lead to bigger problems later no better drivers.
I find it amusing that last year on here it was full of people saying they wouldn’t do it, now it’s full of people saying ■■■■ it up & get it done, mostly by those that have had to endure it no doubt. It won’t make anyone a better driver, just a driver with an extra card in their pocket where money used to be. Roll on September.