Who’s paying for this BTW Rog?
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With the anti German rhetoric. I am reminded of the elite Polish squadrons, based at Manston and Duxford.
robroy:
Tarmaceater:
And did you see the driver on a one man protest who was on lying down on the ground in front of his truck , the police lifted him up and it looked like they kicked him on the ground like a dog , it was on the tv news ?Hmm are you sure about that?
I did think one was going to put the boot in at one point (or God forbid kneel on his neck) but I think the coppers were fully aware of the tv cameras, and the guys videoing it on their phones tbh for them to do anything that could come back and bite them on the arse.
This guy at 00:20 in?
I kinda thought he went down like a Premiership striker in the box, but the crowd around and the final edit might just make it look that way.
Wheel Nut:
With the anti German rhetoric. I am reminded of the elite Polish squadrons, based at Manston and Duxford.
The ones flying RAF airframes?
Were they defending the UK out of altruism?
Or did they have a dog in the fight?
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Monkey241:
Wheel Nut:
With the anti German rhetoric. I am reminded of the elite Polish squadrons, based at Manston and Duxford.The ones flying RAF airframes?
Were they defending the UK out of altruism?
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You’re dead right there mate, although to balance that plenty of other overan nations had dogs in the fight but lacked the fortitude or indeed the cojones to actually join the fight and remained sheepishly on their knees whilst foreigners fought for their freedom. At least the Poles got off of their knees and placed themselves in the firing line.
Tbf the Free French forces did their bit, led by DeGaulle, as did platoons of other European ‘Free armies’ based in the UK.
On the other hand there were sections of non German Europeans in the Waffen SS, including a small group of ex pow Brits, believe it or not.
Here endeth Robs history lesson in the interests of accuracy. 
Carry on. 
robroy:
Tbf the Free French forces did their bit, led by DeGaulle, as did platoons of other European ‘Free armies’ based in the UK.
On the other hand there were sections of non German Europeans in the Waffen SS, including a small group of ex pow Brits, believe it or not.Here endeth Robs history lesson in the interests of accuracy.
Carry on. [emoji38]
And far more French evacuated from Dunkirk opted to be repatriated
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ROG:
The French open the border last night and those drivers need a flow test
Are they getting that test- 12 hours later and it seems NO
How come testing was not started yesterday so when the border was opened they could go
I really feel for these drivers and their families
ROG for once your talking out your backside
Short notice of border closure and a shortage of manpower due to it being used to man Covid Test Centres.over the country
The latest is 800 troops being drafted in to help out,800 that more than likely have spent a few Xmas`s away from home already and now going to be away AGAIN
lolipop:
ROG for once your talking out your backside
Short notice of border closure and a shortage of manpower due to it being used to man Covid Test Centres.over the country
The latest is 800 troops being drafted in to help out,800 that more than likely have spent a few Xmas`s away from home already and now going to be away AGAIN
Yeah, they’re all out of portapotties in SE UK are they? And it’s quite unfathomable that the link over/under La Manche breaks down, leaving thousands stranded in the area. Hadn’t happened for a couple months now, so what were the odds?
Here’s how the testing is being handled
Few years back I was one of many trucks heading for Spain when they had a transport strike. Border was closed.
We were taken off main roads and parked at the airfield at Carcassonne. The next day the local council sent a couple of mini buses and ferried us to a football ground to use the showers. Then we had the chance of free transport to a local Routiers restaurant. Food wasn`t free of course, but there was free transport to town was so shopping could be done.
No one was bothered about finger pointing or trying pass the blame around. I was one of many just transiting France. Nowt to do with them.
The trucks in Dover are mostly those servicing British industry and supplying British shops. Yes, the usual suspects will shout about how they are stealing our work etc etc…point the finger elsewhere etc etc…
But considering we were meant to have a plan in place for Brexit it looks like a very poor show to me, and the attitude shown to our fellow drivers is awful.
de Pfeffel, Shapps, Patel and the leaders of KCC and Kent Police will I hope be held to account at a public enquiry into this for their almost criminal incompetence. Leaving aside KCC’s ‘cereal bar’ contribution to feeding these drivers and issuing of parking tickets which is bad enough, the failure to provide washing facilities and enough toilets warrants possible prosecution considering that this situation was entirely predictable. The excuse currently being given is that contracts to provide facilities don’t commence until Jan 1st, it clearly never occured to anyone in authority to get their finger out and flag Go NOW. The Government have so far managed to bury something behind Brexit but it will come out before too long.
The reaction in Kent has been mixed and difficult to quantify in a percentage regarding hostile versus sympathetic. There have been a few complaining about fouling and being held up, but there have been many ordinary people out and about donating food and water to those drivers not at Manston but marooned on industrial estates and laybys. The reaction from drivers and hauliers in Kent has been outstanding as just one F/B post shows.
" I stopped in a lay-by on the A249 today to an elderly Romanian Driver ,gave him every bit of food Tins etc ihad in my cab plus 4 pints of milk and a case of water ,the gentleman started to cry as he had nothing to eat or drink left , he kept wishing me and my family a merry Xmas just wished I could the same back to him stranded miles from he’s family,hope you get home safe and soon Driver"
So how many of these drivers actually tested positive for Covid?
Not many I bet.
Macron should be ashamed of himself for using these drivers as a political (Brexit) pawn, resulting in them being away from their home and families at Christmas.having nothing to do with Covid concerns whatsoever…shame on the ■■■■ I say… 
robroy:
So how many of these drivers actually tested positive for Covid?
Not many I bet.
Macron should be ashamed of himself for using these drivers as a political (Brexit) pawn, resulting in them being away from their home and families at Christmas.having nothing to do with Covid concerns whatsoever…shame on the [zb] I say…
Well there we go…
I dont defend the French and Macron at all. I can see why after there was an announcement in the UK Parliament saying there was a new strain of C19 and its out of control,
bloomberg.com/news/articles … of-control
A leader might well try to stop its spread…don`t you?
As opposed to this
youtube.com/watch?v=n3NAx3tsy-k
But it does seem, from here and now, like an over reaction by France.
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HoweverW T F has that got to do with the UK response to the situation?
Storms in the Channel stopping boats ?
Another fire in the Tunnel ?
Terrorist incident in Dover? (God forbid)
How did our response shape up?
I dont criticise any of the British individual workers involved in this....unlike some who see coppers giving out kickings left, right, and centre... I see some lads and lasses in uniforms doing what they can, under resourced for years. I see private individuals giving out food and water. Time and again, for years, we have had trucks queuing on motorways around Kent. Years of under-investment have resulted in this situation. No PPE when COVID hit, no resources when a route is blocked for a day or two. Pathetic. I dont see any sort of comprehensive Gov plan for an emergency on an extremely busy route.
If it wasn`t the French “to blame” what would you be saying?
robroy:
So how many of these drivers actually tested positive for Covid?
Not many I bet.
Macron should be ashamed of himself for using these drivers as a political (Brexit) pawn, resulting in them being away from their home and families at Christmas.having nothing to do with Covid concerns whatsoever…shame on the [zb] I say…
24 out of 10000 so far apparently 
Franglais:
robroy:
So how many of these drivers actually tested positive for Covid?
Not many I bet.
Macron should be ashamed of himself for using these drivers as a political (Brexit) pawn, resulting in them being away from their home and families at Christmas.having nothing to do with Covid concerns whatsoever…shame on the [zb] I say…Well there we go…
I dont defend the French and Macron at all. I can see why after there was an announcement in the UK Parliament saying there was a new strain of C19 and its out of control,
bloomberg.com/news/articles … of-control
A leader might well try to stop its spread…don`t you?
As opposed to this
youtube.com/watch?v=n3NAx3tsy-k
But it does seem, from here and now, like an over reaction by France.
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HoweverW T F has that got to do with the UK response to the situation?
Dunno mate, …Ask Rog the o/p, he started the thread,.I only addressed it. 
If you believe Covid was either THE main reason for Macron’s (successful) attempt at disruption in the UK, at the very worst (or in his case best) time to do it, well that is up to you…although in reality I don’t think you really do.
It’s all about one of your own favourite subjects… (Brexit ) and the unacceotance and displeasure felt, of a democratic vote, using another of your favourite subjects, (Covid,) as a very convenient excuse to justify it…but again I think you already know that.
RIPPER:
robroy:
So how many of these drivers actually tested positive for Covid?
Not many I bet.
Macron should be ashamed of himself for using these drivers as a political (Brexit) pawn, resulting in them being away from their home and families at Christmas.having nothing to do with Covid concerns whatsoever…shame on the [zb] I say…24 out of 10000 so far apparently
So around 0.2% ?
Yeh that vindicates Macron don’t it. 
If that was me in that queue to get back home to my family at Christmas, , I’d be ■■■■■■ off, …after I heard that I’d be ■■■■ livid.
robroy:
It’s all about one of your own favourite subjects… (Brexit ) and the unacceotance and displeasure felt, of a democratic vote, using another of your favourite subjects, (Covid,) as a very convenient excuse to justify it…but again I think you already know that.
Yeah, sure it is all about Brexit.
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Scroll up and see what CAV551 says.
Tell him he is a “Remaoner”, a Francophile or whatever…
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I`ll call the ambulance for you now.
Unfortunately I too believe this was a stunt that has backfired spectacularly for Macron on the basis of look what could happen with No deal e.t.c.
These poor drivers have now had to spend Christmas Day away from there loved ones and they’re angry,not at the Brits as many of them have joined various F/B communities to thank the British public for the food and help they have been provided by them.
This was never about COVID as the transport secretary pointed out it’s a lonely job and it’s been proven 24 positives out of 10.000 tests,He’s left his own people and other people of mainland Europe stranded and I hope when they get back over the water they make it clear to him how they feel…
I wish them all safe travels and hope they all get some time with families when they do make it home…
I wonder what would have happened if it had been 4 legged livestock delayed in such a way rather than truck drivers.
Yorkielad:
Unfortunately I too believe this was a stunt that has backfired spectacularly for Macron on the basis of look what could happen with No deal e.t.c.
These poor drivers have now had to spend Christmas Day away from there loved ones and they’re angry,not at the Brits as many of them have joined various F/B communities to thank the British public for the food and help they have been provided by them.
This was never about COVID as the transport secretary pointed out it’s a lonely job and it’s been proven 24 positives out of 10.000 tests,He’s left his own people and other people of mainland Europe stranded and I hope when they get back over the water they make it clear to him how they feel…I wish them all safe travels and hope they all get some time with families when they do make it home…
The Polish driver I share my truck with (I do days, he does nights) described the French as “scum” over this.
If it’s being covered by the media in Poland I’m sure most of their nationals will feel the same. It all just goes to show how right we were to walk away from this evil organisation.