If I do the training through my employer and the retire at the end of 2015 I will have to repay them the cost of the training. Doesn’t seem worth it to me.
How are they going to get the coat of training out of you?You could offer your services as a consultant after retiring.
Looks like they are getting stricter with operators…
http://www.commercialmotor.com/latest-news/don-t-neglect-driver-cpc-warns-tc-aitken#.UNjI0axXwyc
Fine you for not having a CPC will be a fad,then fade eventually.I have held an HGV licence for over 40 years and I could count on one hand how many times
I have been asked for it in a roadside check,that includes swanning around europe for years.
hoss1960:
dieseldave:
When the first analogue tachos were being installed in trucks, all the scaremongering talk was about “the spy in the cab” and all the hard men were talking (loudly) about going on strike and/or hanging their keys up for good.
The reality of it was that very few of them did anything other than just gob off about it, so not that much has changed in all those years.
and that just about sums up the haulage game as far as drivers are concerned,if we ALL stuck together and said NO ENOUGH IS ENOUGH wed would not be in the mess we are in now.
I’ve been saying this for years! 
in the brew room, THEY TALK A GOOD FIGHT! 
grow a pair FFS 
ROG:
shep532:
it is very easy to have a go at trainers but we as trainers didn’t invent the scheme - the Government did that.Question - without the trainers where would the UK DCPC be now?My answer is … scrappedIt is the dcpc trainers who made this possible because if none of them signed up to make money out of it then the whole thing would have collapsed
The trainers are the ones backing the Govt and the EU legislators and it is the trainers who have the power to do something about it
BUT ROG, you’re forgetting IT’S THE DRIVERS WHO CAN STOP IT! NO MEANS NO! just like ■■■■ really!
ROG:
I think my point has still been missedLegally who can effectively scrap the UK dcpc within the UK?
The UK Govt? = no
The drivers? = YES
The companies employing the drivers? = no
The trainers = yesUnless I have missed something ■■?
Rog, drivers can! FTFY!
ROG:
dieseldave:
ROG:
Just as they have avoided a fine for the RTD - they will have complied with the directive - there is nothing in the directive for the dcpc that says the UK Govt must employ trainers to deliver it from what I can see - unless I missed that bit !!■■That’s a very fair point IMHO ROG.
The problem we have is that it’s been very widely publiscised that DCPC will be enforced,.
How would the UK Govt enforce the dcpc or what would the EU actually be able to do against the UK Govt if they set it all up as we have but nobody applied to JAUPT to be an approved trainer ?
If that happen then i think jaupt would open up training centres across the country and then it would cost you a lot more. but IMHO there would be someone out there willing to do the training.
There is a simple answer to this DCPC thing if you don’t want it, get out of the industry and flip burgers more jobs for the ones that want it, we all look on here and see questions about this regulation and that regulation,how we do that which mode do i use and so fore.
When i took my test for my class 1 I never put a tacho in was never told how to fill it out, I was never told that driving a truck on the road in anger can be total different from learning to driver the thing in the first place.
My first drive in one was here’s the keys go to Leeds from Kent, with 44 ton on the back, you soon wake up to the fact that some trainers out there teach you to pass the test and not to drive the thing.
Any training to improve your driving as to be a good thing, i think i learn something on my courses and now that i done it all, i can sit back and plan for the next one
People, Ms Bell can huff & puff, but no driver can be prosecuted in any EU state before 10/9/2016 if they do not have The DCPC card.
Dave.
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The best DriverCPC Module could be the Collision & Damage Avoidance Module.
I like the idea of the aftermath of LGV Road Traffic Collisions being filmed. I like any collision analysis given by Police and VOSA Inspectors and the deep discussion about all those probable causes with my fellow Drivers in the classroom.
So many collisions. So much damage.
So much injury. So much death.
We still have a lot to learn.
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I’ve done mine just before Christmas in a week, mainly as I had the time to do it.
It’s done & then between 2014-2019 I can renew my ADR and do my HIAB and get it count towards the next 5 years! But their are a lot of companies out their at the moment offering both initial CPC & driver CPC. Will these disappear once the 2014 deadline starts as the cash cow dries up? Or will they carry on and offer more days with a more varied choice to make up the 35 hours?
Their are some good companies out their offering the training, but also some offering it at silly prices with added extras like upload fee etc. Drivers need to be wary of these companies, go with recommendations and don’t get fleeced by the cowboys out their!
skypilot:
But their are a lot of companies out their at the moment offering both initial CPC & driver CPC. Will these disappear once the 2014 deadline starts as the cash cow dries up? Or will they carry on and offer more days with a more varied choice to make up the 35 hours?
Both initial and periodic DCPC will continue after the 2014 deadline so why would these companies disappear? I don’t understand that statement at all.
As for a more varied choice - that is going to be difficult as the current syllabus is quite restrictive and there is only so much can be done within this syllabus. Hence most courses currently available follow the same sort of theme.
Mind you - I have heard of a DCPC course that includes how to knit - as in knitting with wool 
Apparently it’s quite relaxing and good for stress 
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shep532:
skypilot:
Both initial and periodic DCPC will continue after the 2014 deadline so why would these companies disappear? I don’t understand that statement at all.
Their are over 1600 companies currently offering the training as drivers rush to get theirs done before 2014.
It’s felt by some training companies that this number will fall once 2014 arrives.
May just be companies hyping themselves up, but we will have to wait and see!
skypilot:
shep532:
skypilot:
Both initial and periodic DCPC will continue after the 2014 deadline so why would these companies disappear? I don’t understand that statement at all.Their are over 1600 companies currently offering the training as drivers rush to get theirs done before 2014.
It’s felt by some training companies that this number will fall once 2014 arrives.
May just be companies hyping themselves up, but we will have to wait and see!
There might be many companies set-up expecting a high demand at the last moment, but once we reach Sept 2014 and everybody sees what the future holds training might be more paced out, so it could be done by fewer companies. Supply and Demand will be the major factor in how many Companies survive after 2014.
muckles:
skypilot:
shep532:
skypilot:
Both initial and periodic DCPC will continue after the 2014 deadline so why would these companies disappear? I don’t understand that statement at all.Their are over 1600 companies currently offering the training as drivers rush to get theirs done before 2014.
It’s felt by some training companies that this number will fall once 2014 arrives.
May just be companies hyping themselves up, but we will have to wait and see!There might be many companies set-up expecting a high demand at the last moment, but once we reach Sept 2014 and everybody sees what the future holds training might be more paced out, so it could be done by fewer companies. Supply and Demand will be the major factor in how many Companies survive after 2014.
I don’t think many companies will go under after 2014 as most do not offer just DCPC. Most are diversified and deliver many other types of training not tied to deadlines such as ADR.
6 pages and the only positive comments that are for this horsecrap come from the ones who have seen an opportunity to fleece their fellow drivers by embracing it, and making a career out of being an instructor . Apart from the newbies who ( through no fault of their own) have been brainwashed with this bollox, are there any seasoned drivers on here, who have done a bit, actually disbelieve that the DCPC is nothing more than a stealth tax on drivers??
robroy:
6 pages and the only positive comments that are for this horsecrap come from the ones who have seen an opportunity to fleece their fellow drivers by embracing it, and making a career out of being an instructor
Spot on !
" the ones who have seen an oppurtunty to fleece their fellow drivers "
I will be borrowing that description.
I have done one day.
It was run by one of the biggest transport concerns in Europe.
Oh god,was it boring,one of the longest days of my life.
My mate was on his second with the same trainer,said it was (allmost) identical to the last course.
What IS the point?
James Bateman2:
robroy:
6 pages and the only positive comments that are for this horsecrap come from the ones who have seen an opportunity to fleece their fellow drivers by embracing it, and making a career out of being an instructorSpot on !
" the ones who have seen an oppurtunty to fleece their fellow drivers "
I will be borrowing that description.
So what is your opinions on driving instructors then?
Don’t hate the player, hate the game an all