The powers that be have transport well stitched up.The driver and the employer will both be open to prosecution if a driver goes out whilst " not qualified".After 1214 drivers need to hold a DCPC to driveso no DCPC =no vocacional licence =no insurance.
alamcculloch:
After 1214 drivers need to hold a DCPC
I love TYPOS 
They’re trying to scare us into doing it but lately I have detected an air of desperation from my agency in that they are offering courses for not a lot of money on the face of it until you factor in the loss of a days wages! What they going to do if their trucks are sitting there loaded without a driver? Answers on a postcard please… 
limeyphil:
not doing it. i’m going to be the first in court for not having it. it’s my ambition.
Well done that man … I reckon if I look it up on the DSA database I’d find you already have yours 
shep532:
limeyphil:
not doing it. i’m going to be the first in court for not having it. it’s my ambition.Well done that man … I reckon if I look it up on the DSA database I’d find you already have yours
as it happens you won’t.
i’m not doing it you know, my mum said i don’t have to and that’s that, so there.
Twoninety88:
I work for a National chain of shopkee…err builders merchants, I have had one, yes just one module. I keep asking when we will get the rest, but get fobbed off by the Regional Transport Office that ‘there is still plenty of time’I am afraid that at 59 years old with only one module no one will take me on if I do want to find a normal transport job again. I need to work as I have a mortgage that wont be paid off for a long while yet. I am considering doing it private.
Plenty of time? How misguided can they be.
Weekends are booking up pretty quickly and as there are only about 80 ish weekends to the first deadline (for goods vehicles) it won’t be long until they are all booked. These companies will then have to settle for weekday courses and take the drivers off the road - not something they will want to do.
I have spoken to coach/bus companies this week who admitted they have drivers with NO courses completed. “Give us a call in August” said one.
Same as already posted - I have had Builders Merchants, Skip companies and many manufacturing companies tell me they are exempt DCPC … we’ll see
shytalk:
I would tell you to [zb] off as well bleedin leaches…
Ahh Mr Shytalk … I reckon you’ve got your DQC already
I have 21 hours and have my card in my wallet and i still have 4 and half years left lol
oldsid:
I say this everytime the subject raises its head, I know it will get forgotten but when the day comes the date will be put back or some other loophole allowing the many non compliant drivers a way forward, as has been said the Fatherland is proposing a delay already.
The father land are not proposing a delay. When they wrote their rules for DCPC they included a later deadline than the UK did. Same as they included a pass/fail as well. Quite a few countries have 2016 as a deadline. Unfortunately the UK don’t.
Each member of the 27 European states has a different set of rules based on the choices given by Europe.
Some countires have said anyone born before a certain date (I’d have to check which countires and what dates) is exempt for life. Shame the UK didn’t do that.
The authorities have already confirmed what will happen in the UK. During a normal roadside check the DQC will be checked. Non-Holders (who should have it) will be taken off the road and invited to see the TC. Outcome will either be suspension of vocational licence until DQC aqcuired or you will be let off because you fit into one of the exemptions. Meanwhile your employer will be asked to inform the TC why they saw fit to employ you without the DQC. At this point the driver will not be fined. If however they are caught driving a second time without the DQC I believe the full fine would be implimented (up to £1000)
I always ask drivers how often they get stopped by VOSA and when they were last stopped. 90% of those I have met haven’t been stopped for months - this is because of the OCRS system. This means those drivers more than likely still won’t be stopped and could therefore continue without a DQC for quite some time.
Ah, Mr shep, how wrong you are…i wouldnt do it on principal…why do people put up with this rubbish…dcpc not worth a bag of balloons, pressured into crap and money people just dont have , some will get it from the company but a load wont…i can forsee a lot of problems…but i will be exempt , i just wont pay and even if it was offered for free i still wouldnt…i think its an insult to a lot of peoples experience .
You can tell who the 2x DCPC trainers are on this thread without any question : gasgas and ugh. Just a whole load of scare-mongering as they’re getting desperate for business and no-one’s taking up their “offers” so in a desperate attempt to drum up some business they’re telling anyone who’ll listen that the course will cost eleventy billion thousand pounds in 2014. I, however, beg to differ. There is already a huge oversupply of DCPC trainers and new ones are appearing on the scene every passing day, so by the time August 2014 comes along they’ll all be undercutting each other to get your business = DCPC for £2.50 a module (ok, maybe a slight exaggeration , but worst case scenario I highly doubt the courses will cost any more than they are currently).
It’s still over a year and a half away and a lot can change in that time. I’m hoping that I won’t need it, but regardless I’ll still be sitting on the fence until at least summer 2014 before considering doing something about it.
It’s also worth bearing in mind that this site was full of threads about how the industry would fall flat on its face with the introduction of the digi tacho cards as no drivers would be paying for one and the country would grind to a halt. Of course that never happened as 99.9% of drivers talk a good story but don’t have the bollox to do it. I predict more of the same with the DCPC.
Ive got the bollox…ive never licked any gaffers arse…or bowed to authority…if i dont like it i tell them so end of.
ugt:
Twoninety88:
I work for a National chain of shopkee…err builders merchants, I have had one, yes just one module. I keep asking when we will get the rest, but get fobbed off by the Regional Transport Office that ‘there is still plenty of time’I am afraid that at 59 years old with only one module no one will take me on if I do want to find a normal transport job again. I need to work as I have a mortgage that wont be paid off for a long while yet. I am considering doing it private.
We were actually told to **** off today by a builders merchants as apparently they do not need Driver CPC
The like of builders or scaffolders (good example) don’t need it as driving isn’t their main job, all they do is transport their materials to and from.
Tarrman:
ugt:
Twoninety88:
I work for a National chain of shopkee…err builders merchants, I have had one, yes just one module. I keep asking when we will get the rest, but get fobbed off by the Regional Transport Office that ‘there is still plenty of time’I am afraid that at 59 years old with only one module no one will take me on if I do want to find a normal transport job again. I need to work as I have a mortgage that wont be paid off for a long while yet. I am considering doing it private.
We were actually told to **** off today by a builders merchants as apparently they do not need Driver CPC
The like of builders or scaffolders (good example) don’t need it as driving isn’t their main job, all they do is transport their materials to and from.
Hi Tarrman,
Whilst what you’ve said is correct, you might have missed this:
Twoninety88:
I work for a National chain of shopkee…err builders merchants, …
Builders merchant’s drivers generally drive for the main part of their job, so they’ll very probably need DCPC.
Rob K:
It’s also worth bearing in mind that this site was full of threads about how the industry would fall flat on its face with the introduction of the digi tacho cards as no drivers would be paying for one and the country would grind to a halt. Of course that never happened as 99.9% of drivers talk a good story but don’t have the bollox to do it. I predict more of the same with the DCPC.
I remember back in 1979 (yes, it’s one of Dave’s ‘old hand’ stories ) but my point is that history supports Rob’s view of driver talk.
When the first analogue tachos were being installed in trucks, all the scaremongering talk was about “the spy in the cab” and all the hard men were talking (loudly 
) about going on strike and/or hanging their keys up for good.
The reality of it was that very few of them did anything other than just gob off about it, so not that much has changed in all those years.
dieseldave:
Rob K:
It’s also worth bearing in mind that this site was full of threads about how the industry would fall flat on its face with the introduction of the digi tacho cards as no drivers would be paying for one and the country would grind to a halt. Of course that never happened as 99.9% of drivers talk a good story but don’t have the bollox to do it. I predict more of the same with the DCPC.I remember back in 1979 (yes, it’s one of Dave’s ‘old hand’ stories
When the first analogue tachos were being installed in trucks, all the scaremongering talk was about “the spy in the cab” and all the hard men were talking (loudly
The reality of it was that very few of them did anything other than just gob off about it, so not that much has changed in all those years.
As night follows day, everyone will do it with very few exceptions.
I have mine all paid for by 3663. Even if they hadn’t of paid for it I would have coughed up for it, as I enjoy driving for a living and if I need dcpc to drive then so be it.
I understand money is tight for a lot of people but…if you still want to drive trucks you will have to do it.
Runs for cover
Did mine in March.
Hope all you who have said you aren’t doing it stick by it, and never do it. Because you never know it may just increase our pay a little bit. But guarrentee if it does, all the big gob will be rushing to get their done to get the better money.
I have my card as I drive a bus I will need to carry the thing as of next year.I like driving and dont want to work under a roof again.How many of the mouthy posters could or would do something else?
This talk about wages going up if people don’t do the DCPC is nonsense, there’s already too many drivers in this country and if a few refuse to do the training nothing will change.
Even if a large proportion of drivers refused to do the training we would simply see an even bigger influx of driver immigrants who hold the DQC.
Neither this government nor the next will allow drivers wages to rise significantly because of the DCPC
I’ll say one thing though, if ever you want to get the DCPC trainers attention on Trucknet-UK all you have to do is type the four letters DCPC into any thread 