Neither have I Dave, apart from the upload fee 
Pat
Morning, yep im sure. the trainer needs to pay about £1.30 ish per hour of training per driver attending the course for however many hours of training being provided, lets just say its a pound an hour for arguments sake, 7 hours = £7 35 hours =£35. The trainer needs a PLLS Cert £400 ish and a registration fee of £1400 which lasts for 5 years. Plus industry expertise and loads and loads of proof of experience. This is just a quick let you know, theres loads more involved if you go onto jaupt website the link is on there for all the information. Have fun reading it.
Here you go Lee
drivercpc.org/en/approval-fees/
The £1.30ish per hour per candidate is the upload fee of £1.25/hrs/candidate i.e.£8.75/7hrs course.
thanks
firstly does anyone have a link to this advert for £100.
secondly I have not read all the posts on here about this subject.
It is very easy to run this course at that price and be quids in, the catch will probably be you will get it at that price if minimum numbers are met. The minimum number will probably be 20
£20 - £8.75 times 20 = a profit of £235 a day wages. He has very cleverly got something worth more than £235 and that is everyone talking about him and his site.
If you read his initial DCPC page he clearly is playing to an audience and has very little experience in training or does not have confidence in his own training ability.
he mentions in one of his rants, no consideration has been given to manager cpc holders. That is true but then why should there be. You can pass a national or international CPC and never sit a refresher and I for one have taught countless managers DCPC and they have all walked away and have learnt something, some have changed their policies for the better as they were unaware of the rules out there.
He whinges on about no consideration has been given to people with 30/40/ years experience, again why should it. on a simple drivers hours session with 10 people I would on average walk away with £100 per head average in fines for incorrect completion of an anolouge tacho. This from drivers with said 30/40 years experience (i am not knocking experience but it does not mean we know everything) the consideration should come from the trainer and he should allow the older hands to help bring the experiences to the group.
I stand to be proved wrong but this is a massive publicity stunt that drivers will fall for, this is also a massive money spinner for him as he will have more work than he can cope with there will be a massive waiting list and in the end the driver will miss out and have to pay the extortionate rates some company’s will charge as we approach 2014.
A link would still be nice as I am always interested in things like this.
As stated i am not knocking experience but this and this attitude towards training really gets my back up. I am experienced in most aspects of logistics, I pride myself on my professionalism and my hunger to gain knowledge so i can pass information on to others and yet my job is being mocked and ridiculed by poor poor trainers and attention seeking people.
Long distance clara:
firstly does anyone have a link to this advert for £100.
secondly I have not read all the posts on here about this subject.It is very easy to run this course at that price and be quids in, the catch will probably be you will get it at that price if minimum numbers are met. The minimum number will probably be 20
£20 - £8.75 times 20 = a profit of £235 a day wages. He has very cleverly got something worth more than £235 and that is everyone talking about him and his site.
If you read his initial DCPC page he clearly is playing to an audience and has very little experience in training or does not have confidence in his own training ability.
he mentions in one of his rants, no consideration has been given to manager cpc holders. That is true but then why should there be. You can pass a national or international CPC and never sit a refresher and I for one have taught countless managers DCPC and they have all walked away and have learnt something, some have changed their policies for the better as they were unaware of the rules out there.
He whinges on about no consideration has been given to people with 30/40/ years experience, again why should it. on a simple drivers hours session with 10 people I would on average walk away with £100 per head average in fines for incorrect completion of an anolouge tacho. This from drivers with said 30/40 years experience (i am not knocking experience but it does not mean we know everything) the consideration should come from the trainer and he should allow the older hands to help bring the experiences to the group.
I stand to be proved wrong but this is a massive publicity stunt that drivers will fall for, this is also a massive money spinner for him as he will have more work than he can cope with there will be a massive waiting list and in the end the driver will miss out and have to pay the extortionate rates some company’s will charge as we approach 2014.
A link would still be nice as I am always interested in things like this.
As stated i am not knocking experience but this and this attitude towards training really gets my back up. I am experienced in most aspects of logistics, I pride myself on my professionalism and my hunger to gain knowledge so i can pass information on to others and yet my job is being mocked and ridiculed by poor poor trainers and attention seeking people.
I think you fail to know just who it is that is ridiculing you. How much do the EU burocrats and the soft UK quango sitters that allow this farce to take place know about Training or transport, or anything to do with the job that we do every day?
I am a qualified trainer/instructor/assessor/whatever you want to call me, i have been working in the training field of Transport for many years, but I know enough to know that only targeted, good training is valid, The DCPC is not. check out the post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73163 A driver tells that he actually did the same module 5 times! now, tell me that is of any value to him? How can anyone justify a system that allows that to happen? How can anything that is so flawed be accepted by some many people who should know better?
I don’t know everything there is to know about the transport business, nor do I think I am anything special as a driver, I know my job, and I know how to ask questions if I’m not sure about something, and no amount of sitting listening to people like myself talking for 7 hours is going to make me a better driver. Practical, hands on training and instruction, with a structured plan tailored for the individual is the best form of training, not some “one size fits all” scheme, that can be done while falling asleep.
So far this year, as an agency driver, i have taken 3 driving assessments for different companies, i have spent a total of 5 days (more than 35 hours) being “Trained” by these companies to do the job that they require me to do, THAT is the sort of training that we need, training that will help us do the work for which we are employed. But none of it counts in the eyes of the JAUPT.
What care i about taking breaks on a ferry if I never intend to catch anything bigger than the woolwich ferry? So why waste my time explaining these rules to me, when all i need to know is those rules that apply to the job i am doing? I have said it before, many companies have far better training programmes that anything in the DCPC, it is job orientated, targeted and focused, but counts for nothing when it comes to this farce.
truckerjon:
Long distance clara:
firstly does anyone have a link to this advert for £100.
secondly I have not read all the posts on here about this subject.It is very easy to run this course at that price and be quids in, the catch will probably be you will get it at that price if minimum numbers are met. The minimum number will probably be 20
£20 - £8.75 times 20 = a profit of £235 a day wages. He has very cleverly got something worth more than £235 and that is everyone talking about him and his site.
If you read his initial DCPC page he clearly is playing to an audience and has very little experience in training or does not have confidence in his own training ability.
he mentions in one of his rants, no consideration has been given to manager cpc holders. That is true but then why should there be. You can pass a national or international CPC and never sit a refresher and I for one have taught countless managers DCPC and they have all walked away and have learnt something, some have changed their policies for the better as they were unaware of the rules out there.
He whinges on about no consideration has been given to people with 30/40/ years experience, again why should it. on a simple drivers hours session with 10 people I would on average walk away with £100 per head average in fines for incorrect completion of an anolouge tacho. This from drivers with said 30/40 years experience (i am not knocking experience but it does not mean we know everything) the consideration should come from the trainer and he should allow the older hands to help bring the experiences to the group.
I stand to be proved wrong but this is a massive publicity stunt that drivers will fall for, this is also a massive money spinner for him as he will have more work than he can cope with there will be a massive waiting list and in the end the driver will miss out and have to pay the extortionate rates some company’s will charge as we approach 2014.
A link would still be nice as I am always interested in things like this.
As stated i am not knocking experience but this and this attitude towards training really gets my back up. I am experienced in most aspects of logistics, I pride myself on my professionalism and my hunger to gain knowledge so i can pass information on to others and yet my job is being mocked and ridiculed by poor poor trainers and attention seeking people.I think you fail to know just who it is that is ridiculing you. How much do the EU burocrats and the soft UK quango sitters that allow this farce to take place know about Training or transport, or anything to do with the job that we do every day?
I am a qualified trainer/instructor/assessor/whatever you want to call me, i have been working in the training field of Transport for many years, but I know enough to know that only targeted, good training is valid, The DCPC is not. check out the post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73163 A driver tells that he actually did the same module 5 times! now, tell me that is of any value to him? How can anyone justify a system that allows that to happen? How can anything that is so flawed be accepted by some many people who should know better?
I don’t know everything there is to know about the transport business, nor do I think I am anything special as a driver, I know my job, and I know how to ask questions if I’m not sure about something, and no amount of sitting listening to people like myself talking for 7 hours is going to make me a better driver. Practical, hands on training and instruction, with a structured plan tailored for the individual is the best form of training, not some “one size fits all” scheme, that can be done while falling asleep.
So far this year, as an agency driver, i have taken 3 driving assessments for different companies, i have spent a total of 5 days (more than 35 hours) being “Trained” by these companies to do the job that they require me to do, THAT is the sort of training that we need, training that will help us do the work for which we are employed. But none of it counts in the eyes of the JAUPT.
What care i about taking breaks on a ferry if I never intend to catch anything bigger than the woolwich ferry? So why waste my time explaining these rules to me, when all i need to know is those rules that apply to the job i am doing? I have said it before, many companies have far better training programmes that anything in the DCPC, it is job orientated, targeted and focused, but counts for nothing when it comes to this farce.
Mate I understand where you are coming from but if you feel the courses out there are no good why have you not wrote your own worthwhile course?
Why did that driver do the same course 5 times more fool him and shame on him and his colleagues for not having the trouser boulders to speak out to their boss to get other courses, can’t blame the system. The system has been designed this way to allow drivers to sit whatever course they want, some drivers need more than 1 drivers hours course to understand the rules. I assume they did not think anyone would be thick enough to sit a full 35 hours of the same thing if it was understood after one sitting.
You mention getting on a ferry, accredit a UK based drivers hours course and an international course that covers ferry’s. You will probably argue no to this due to the expense. If you have put in has many hours as I have in the driver CPC area and are still saying that it is a waste of time then I am truly amazed as it has shocked me just how little some people know and also how much we all forget as we get stuck in our ways. I am not saying I am the oracle as I am not and we are all able to learn new things if we are open to learning, this course if delivered properly is a great idea it has been marketed wrong and sold short by rubbish instructors (not talking about you as i don’t know you). The one size fits all banner makes me laugh, there is no one size fits all course. As long as it is industry specific it can be accredited and trained, so if you have a company who excel in drivers hours teach them something they don’t know that would be beneficial to them and their company.
You mention the course can be done whilst sleeping or falling a sleep, well not on my watch if that happened to me I would hand their money back and kick them out the classroom ( if it was halfway through the day they would get half their money back 
) any trainer who allowed that to happen has no self respect let alone anything else.
If you take this negative attitude into your learning environment then imo only you will get negative response towards the course.
Well IF you had bothered reading his post :
been driving trucks since 1980 and now just finished my 35 hours training so now i am a better driver or just more out of pocket well what a farse as i did the same 7 hour training 5 times on driver rules and regs. so this proves that the driver cpc is a waste of time
then you would know that he paid for this crap out of his own pocket, something that sadly most of us drivers will be forced to do if we wish to continue using that vocational qualification that we gained (AKA C & CE or D DE) to earn a living ,as said we already get shafted in the way of digital tacho driver cards, driver medicals, and a licence renewal every 10 years just to change the photo, we do not need this bull manure as well, and if those so called training companies jack up their prices near to the 2014 then the country will be short of drivers simples, personally i would sooner just give someone suitable amounts of wonga in a nice brown envelope and receive the said driver cpc card a short time later ,no boring class room(zb) or loosing out on pay too, or having to travel to and from some training center which again will cost me money and time that i will not be paid for,
And this should be funded for those who are jobless
tommy t:
Well IF you had bothered reading his post :been driving trucks since 1980 and now just finished my 35 hours training so now i am a better driver or just more out of pocket well what a farse as i did the same 7 hour training 5 times on driver rules and regs. so this proves that the driver cpc is a waste of time
then you would know that he paid for this crap out of his own pocket, something that sadly most of us drivers will be forced to do if we wish to continue using that vocational qualification that we gained (AKA C & CE or D DE) to earn a living ,as said we already get shafted in the way of digital tacho driver cards, driver medicals, and a licence renewal every 10 years just to change the photo, we do not need this bull manure as well, and if those so called training companies jack up their prices near to the 2014 then the country will be short of drivers simples, personally i would sooner just give someone suitable amounts of wonga in a nice brown envelope and receive the said driver cpc card a short time later ,no boring class room(zb) or loosing out on pay too, or having to travel to and from some training center which again will cost me money and time that i will not be paid for,
And this should be funded for those who are jobless
He paid for it himself well what and idiot for putting himself through the same course, the brown envelope makes me laugh. most drivers slag of johnny foreigner about rule breaking then come out with this brown envelope
It is a matter of attitude, and in my opinion if you want to learn you will, if you think you know it all already then again that is a bad state to be in. As for shafted,
Medical £100 = £20 every year for 5 years as a breakdown. This can be gained a lot cheaper if you go through training centers that have deals with doctors, the cheapest i know is £40
Digital tacho = £19 every 5 years break down of £3.80
Licence renewal I think is £20 over 10 years = £ 2.00 per year
CPC an average price between now and 2014 £65 a session 2 per year this year followed by 1 per year so in total £ 90 max per year, around one days pay. Hardly shafted mate. one years price will be £155 due to two DCPC
Try being a plumber a builder electrician etc etc and the amount of courses they have to go on just to get on site. Try being a trainer every 5 years RTITB refresher £400 ITSSAR refresher £400 First aid refresher 3 years £200, ADI 5 years £300 plus a refresher on all 15 mechanical handling equipment certificates around 100 per day. your £90 quid looks quite good. Oh I forgot DCPC for instructors and yes I have to have time off and sit in a class room as we are a professional company and play by the rules. The prices I listed are a guestamet but they won’t be far out.
Drivers whinge and moan about this DCPC but you will have had 5 years to plan a new career if you feel that strongly about it. Why moan go to the right places with an open mind sit the right course for you and who knows with the right attitude you may learn something new
Long distance clara:
You mention getting on a ferry, accredit a UK based drivers hours course and an international course that covers ferry’s. You will probably argue no to this due to the expense.
Hi LDC,
I’m finding this comment a little interesting.
If somebody has written and had a drivers’ hours course approved, why would they need another course to cover ferry movements and international stuff?
Lond distance Clara! You have a PM! 
Long distance clara:
tommy t:
Well IF you had bothered reading his post :been driving trucks since 1980 and now just finished my 35 hours training so now i am a better driver or just more out of pocket well what a farse as i did the same 7 hour training 5 times on driver rules and regs. so this proves that the driver cpc is a waste of time
then you would know that he paid for this crap out of his own pocket, something that sadly most of us drivers will be forced to do if we wish to continue using that vocational qualification that we gained (AKA C & CE or D DE) to earn a living ,as said we already get shafted in the way of digital tacho driver cards, driver medicals, and a licence renewal every 10 years just to change the photo, we do not need this bull manure as well, and if those so called training companies jack up their prices near to the 2014 then the country will be short of drivers simples, personally i would sooner just give someone suitable amounts of wonga in a nice brown envelope and receive the said driver cpc card a short time later ,no boring class room(zb) or loosing out on pay too, or having to travel to and from some training center which again will cost me money and time that i will not be paid for,
And this should be funded for those who are jobless
He paid for it himself well what and idiot for putting himself through the same course, the brown envelope makes me laugh. most drivers slag of johnny foreigner about rule breaking then come out with this brown envelope
It is a matter of attitude, and in my opinion if you want to learn you will, if you think you know it all already then again that is a bad state to be in. As for shafted,
Medical £100 = £20 every year for 5 years as a breakdown. This can be gained a lot cheaper if you go through training centers that have deals with doctors, the cheapest i know is £40
Digital tacho = £19 every 5 years break down of £3.80
Licence renewal I think is £20 over 10 years = £ 2.00 per year
CPC an average price between now and 2014 £65 a session 2 per year this year followed by 1 per year so in total £ 90 max per year, around one days pay. Hardly shafted mate. one years price will be £155 due to two DCPCTry being a plumber a builder electrician etc etc and the amount of courses they have to go on just to get on site. Try being a trainer every 5 years RTITB refresher £400 ITSSAR refresher £400 First aid refresher 3 years £200, ADI 5 years £300 plus a refresher on all 15 mechanical handling equipment certificates around 100 per day. your £90 quid looks quite good. Oh I forgot DCPC for instructors and yes I have to have time off and sit in a class room as we are a professional company and play by the rules. The prices I listed are a guestamet but they won’t be far out.
Drivers whinge and moan about this DCPC but you will have had 5 years to plan a new career if you feel that strongly about it. Why moan go to the right places with an open mind sit the right course for you and who knows with the right attitude you may learn something new
You conveniently missed out the other costs such as 5 days wages and travel costs, but it’s not only the cost of this ill thought out bs, it’s the fact that all of us “Professional Drivers” have passed a test to drive those vehicles, we have transport managers in most companies and they have a responsibility to ensure that drivers are kept up to date with legislation etc , inc drivers hours ect, so why do we suddenly need this as well ? this ain’t going to educate anyone, or make the roads a safer place , but it will line certain greedy (zb’s ) pockets
tommy t:
Long distance clara:
tommy t:
Well IF you had bothered reading his post :been driving trucks since 1980 and now just finished my 35 hours training so now i am a better driver or just more out of pocket well what a farse as i did the same 7 hour training 5 times on driver rules and regs. so this proves that the driver cpc is a waste of time
then you would know that he paid for this crap out of his own pocket, something that sadly most of us drivers will be forced to do if we wish to continue using that vocational qualification that we gained (AKA C & CE or D DE) to earn a living ,as said we already get shafted in the way of digital tacho driver cards, driver medicals, and a licence renewal every 10 years just to change the photo, we do not need this bull manure as well, and if those so called training companies jack up their prices near to the 2014 then the country will be short of drivers simples, personally i would sooner just give someone suitable amounts of wonga in a nice brown envelope and receive the said driver cpc card a short time later ,no boring class room(zb) or loosing out on pay too, or having to travel to and from some training center which again will cost me money and time that i will not be paid for,
And this should be funded for those who are jobless
He paid for it himself well what and idiot for putting himself through the same course, the brown envelope makes me laugh. most drivers slag of johnny foreigner about rule breaking then come out with this brown envelope
It is a matter of attitude, and in my opinion if you want to learn you will, if you think you know it all already then again that is a bad state to be in. As for shafted,
Medical £100 = £20 every year for 5 years as a breakdown. This can be gained a lot cheaper if you go through training centers that have deals with doctors, the cheapest i know is £40
Digital tacho = £19 every 5 years break down of £3.80
Licence renewal I think is £20 over 10 years = £ 2.00 per year
CPC an average price between now and 2014 £65 a session 2 per year this year followed by 1 per year so in total £ 90 max per year, around one days pay. Hardly shafted mate. one years price will be £155 due to two DCPCTry being a plumber a builder electrician etc etc and the amount of courses they have to go on just to get on site. Try being a trainer every 5 years RTITB refresher £400 ITSSAR refresher £400 First aid refresher 3 years £200, ADI 5 years £300 plus a refresher on all 15 mechanical handling equipment certificates around 100 per day. your £90 quid looks quite good. Oh I forgot DCPC for instructors and yes I have to have time off and sit in a class room as we are a professional company and play by the rules. The prices I listed are a guestamet but they won’t be far out.
Drivers whinge and moan about this DCPC but you will have had 5 years to plan a new career if you feel that strongly about it. Why moan go to the right places with an open mind sit the right course for you and who knows with the right attitude you may learn something new
You conveniently missed out the other costs such as 5 days wages and travel costs, but it’s not only the cost of this ill thought out bs, it’s the fact that all of us “Professional Drivers” have passed a test to drive those vehicles, we have transport managers in most companies and they have a responsibility to ensure that drivers are kept up to date with legislation etc , inc drivers hours ect, so why do we suddenly need this as well ? this ain’t going to educate anyone, or make the roads a safer place , but it will line certain greedy (zb’s ) pockets
5 days wages genius even an owner driver has to have a rest day or weekend, do the course then. as long as your not being paid you are according to the VOSA man I spoke to free to dispose of your time how you see fit. Travel my god you really are scraping the barrel, the trainer will come to you. there will be one in your area and if they are desperate for work it can be done in your front room. Get a load of lads together and it will work out cheaper for all as well, so not conveniently anything more you making mountains out of mole hills. If you did a DCPC you may have known this
dieseldave:
Long distance clara:
You mention getting on a ferry, accredit a UK based drivers hours course and an international course that covers ferry’s. You will probably argue no to this due to the expense.Hi LDC,
I’m finding this comment a little interesting.
If somebody has written and had a drivers’ hours course approved, why would they need another course to cover ferry movements and international stuff?
DD the post I’m replying to said he teaches about ferry’s to people who don’t use them and he finds this a waste of time. So what I’m saying is if he is not happy with what he is teaching accredit a course that misses the offending item out. I’m then preempting his answer of it’s too expensive.
This is the problem with DCPC if your instructor is not passionate about the subject they will give you the bare minimum and it will be rubbish I agree. I have never had a complaint about my courses and this year alone I have delivered around 360 hours of DCPC.
Long distance clara:
5 days wages genius even an owner driver has to have a rest day or weekend, do the course then. as long as your not being paid you are according to the VOSA man I spoke to free to dispose of your time how you see fit
The VOSA man has either informed you incorrectly or you have mis-heard
The LAW is that ALL DCPC courses are classed as OTHER WORK
ROG:
Long distance clara:
5 days wages genius even an owner driver has to have a rest day or weekend, do the course then. as long as your not being paid you are according to the VOSA man I spoke to free to dispose of your time how you see fitThe VOSA man has either informed you incorrectly or you have mis-heard
The LAW is that ALL DCPC courses are classed as OTHER WORK
How do I post a link just put one in my reply last time ill try again now next to this LINK
IMO, It would take a very brave person with expert knowledge to refute what is quoted below !!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57040&p=679458&hilit#p679458
geebee45:
Firstly, thanks to Rog for alerting me to this thread.Put simply, it doesn’t matter where the dCPC training is undertaken or whether the driver is being paid to attend the course or who pays the course fees; driver or employer, the course time cannot be counted as rest under the EU drivers hours rules.
If you want the detail. EC 561 gives the definitions of; driving time, other work, rest and break. As we all know, ‘rest’ is the period during which a driver may freely dispose of his (or her) time. Being on a compulsory training course doesn’t fit with that definition. ‘Break,’ cannot be claimed as a driver cannot do any ‘driving’ or ‘work’ on a break.
The definition of ‘other work’ in '561 refers back to 2002/15 (EC) our old friend that gave us the Road Transport Working Time Regulations in April 2005. If you look at Article 3 you will find the following definition of work;
‘working time’ shall mean:
- in the case of mobile workers: the time from the beginning
to the end of work, during which the mobile
worker is at his workstation, at the disposal of the
employer and exercising his functions or activities, that
is to say:
– the time devoted to all road transport activities.
These activities are, in particular, the following:
(i) driving;
(ii) loading and unloading;
(iii) assisting passengers boarding and disembarking
from the vehicle;
(iv) cleaning and technical maintenance;
(v) all other work intended to ensure the safety of
the vehicle, its cargo and passengers or to fulfil
the legal or regulatory obligations directly
linked to the specific transport operation under
way, including monitoring of loading and
unloading, administrative formalities with
police, customs, immigration officers etc.I’ve put the important bit in part 5 in red.
The dCPC is a legal obligation for drivers that wish to use their vocational licence commercially. Therefore the time is ‘other work,’ needs to be recorded as such and cannot be counted as ‘rest’ under the EU drivers hours rules. It also needs recording under the aforementioned RT(WT)R as ‘working time’ and would count towards the maximum ‘working time’ of 60 hours per week or 48 average.
ROG:
IMO, It would take a very brave person with expert knowledge to refute what is quoted below !!viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57040&p=679458&hilit#p679458
geebee45:
Firstly, thanks to Rog for alerting me to this thread.Put simply, it doesn’t matter where the dCPC training is undertaken or whether the driver is being paid to attend the course or who pays the course fees; driver or employer, the course time cannot be counted as rest under the EU drivers hours rules.
If you want the detail. EC 561 gives the definitions of; driving time, other work, rest and break. As we all know, ‘rest’ is the period during which a driver may freely dispose of his (or her) time. Being on a compulsory training course doesn’t fit with that definition. ‘Break,’ cannot be claimed as a driver cannot do any ‘driving’ or ‘work’ on a break.
The definition of ‘other work’ in '561 refers back to 2002/15 (EC) our old friend that gave us the Road Transport Working Time Regulations in April 2005. If you look at Article 3 you will find the following definition of work;
‘working time’ shall mean:
- in the case of mobile workers: the time from the beginning
to the end of work, during which the mobile
worker is at his workstation, at the disposal of the
employer and exercising his functions or activities, that
is to say:
– the time devoted to all road transport activities.
These activities are, in particular, the following:
(i) driving;
(ii) loading and unloading;
(iii) assisting passengers boarding and disembarking
from the vehicle;
(iv) cleaning and technical maintenance;
(v) all other work intended to ensure the safety of
the vehicle, its cargo and passengers or to fulfil
the legal or regulatory obligations directly
linked to the specific transport operation under
way, including monitoring of loading and
unloading, administrative formalities with
police, customs, immigration officers etc.I’ve put the important bit in part 5 in red.
The dCPC is a legal obligation for drivers that wish to use their vocational licence commercially. Therefore the time is ‘other work,’ needs to be recorded as such and cannot be counted as ‘rest’ under the EU drivers hours rules. It also needs recording under the aforementioned RT(WT)R as ‘working time’ and would count towards the maximum ‘working time’ of 60 hours per week or 48 average.
Only if paid though, otherwise not part of the RTWD. On Tuesday i will double check, if I’m wrong i’ll apollogise and stand corrected but this bit
regulatory obligations directly
linked to the specific transport operation under
way. The wording under way would that not mean as in the load you are carrying or paperwork for the load, letting sheep out the back to stretch their legs I don’t think that means DCPC but I could be wrong and I will def try and find out 100% and let you know.
Long distance clara:
Only if paid though, otherwise not part of the RTWD. On Tuesday i will double check, if I’m wrong i’ll apollogise and stand corrected …
Then you can stand corrected as you must have missed this bit -
geebee45 wrote:
Put simply, it doesn’t matter where the dCPC training is undertaken or whether the driver is being paid to attend the course
l d c, for gods sake all work related traing is classed as other work. end of. ffs
for christ’s sake this is what all the problems are with the dcpc ffs even the friggin trainers know faff all.
geeeeeeeeez.