GasGas:
The truck driver didn’t handle the situation at all well, but at the end of the day he was just driving along in lane 1, and wasn’t changing lanes or driving into anyone’s path.
There’s nothing wrong with just ‘driving along in lane 1’ but there is when driving along in lane 1 happens to be with only around 40 feet seperation distance to the truck ahead thereby obstructing merging traffic at entry slip roads with predictable results.
24ish sec mark camera clear by 31 sec the car is on the front of the truck
And between those times you can see the car reflection in the windscreen … appearing very quickly and slamming on the brakes (I would guess).
Yes the lorry driver was too close to the one in front, he probably should’ve pulled out to overtake by then (but he would’ve been in the wrong for pulling out too early no doubt!) and of course the car rushing down the slip and pulling out regardless wouldn’t have been a problem.
And between those times you can see the car reflection in the windscreen … appearing very quickly and slamming on the brakes (I would guess).
Not really that’s the reflection for the cam the drivers eye line is a good 0.5 metres above that so total different reflection you will know your self whist driving your blind spots and line of sight its not like the car was there for ages so driver would of seen it he was there for a little over 6 seconds from pulling up the side to point of impact
yes he was maybe a bit too close to the truck in front but still that car who won’t go quick enough to merge want to pull into that trucks braking distance let me guess its the hgv’s fault when the one in front anchors up and crushes the car what had to do 57mph and squeeze into that trucks braking distance which is all ready cutting it fine as it is?
Video even said hgv driver was found not at fault due to this video
Go ask people on the road who has right of way I bet you 85% of them think they do when merging on to a motor way and motorway traffic should make room for them another success story of Britan’s poor driving/test standards for Car drivers
MisterStrood:
So why do we have Highway Code ? I see more danger when someone on the M’way brakes or unnecessarily slows to let someone who should not be given license in. What would you do if you slow down or brake and in result of that caused even more serious collision ?
Thats a good point, slowing down and braking unnecessarily can have a bigger impact but in this situation there was at worst a deliberate and pre-meditated action to cause this incident, or at best a display of arrogance and poor forward planning that doesn’t mix well with a large goods vehicle and other road users.
I know some will disagree and that’s fine I’ve no need to change peoples opinions, my duty of care is to protect my safety when on the roads as well as others.
The highway code is not cast in stone, being in the right is no compensation if events unfold that could be avoided.
Common sense and experience can often save someones life or at least a serious injury even when the highway code may be on your side. If in doubt the most vunerable road user will have the right of way with me if an impact is imminent. But thats manly due to paperwork and the delays these things cause.
Course I’m not perfect and by no means the best driver in the world, I just wan’t to get from A to B with the least drama possible.
Dafman:
peterm:
Dafman:
The lorry driver did the correct thing, he didn’t move an inch and neither do I, you see this every day all the car had to do was accelerate and it is quite clear the car hit the lorry. You give way to the right, the car saw the lorry for a long time. And lmao at the two who said the lorry hit the car deliberately, come back when you have a bit of experience and you may see it differentlyIs forty years enough experience for me to say that the lorry driver might not have hit the car deliberately, but he certainly deliberately let the car hit him !
I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve avoided potentially fatal smashes by easing off/ braking, etc. How about if that car had ended up in the next lane and caused others to be involved. The ‘might is right’ attitude that some on here have, really amazes me. Maybe an attitude/intelligence test for all drivers is needed before being let loose on the roads .33 for me and if you watch the video you will see the car driver shot up the inside of the lorry and just before be pulled off slip road he slowed down, so I dont know how that was the lorry drivers fault
As me and others have said, the lorry sped up, closing the gap to shut the door on the car.
if you look at the film it looks as if the car driver has a mobile or some other gadget in his right hand
the maoster:
Maybe it’s just me, but from the footage shown it seemed the truck driver had a constant (albeit too small) gap to the truck in front but the gap suddenly decreased prior to the car appearing into view. My feeling is dashcam man saw the car coming down the sliproad in his n/s mirror and promptly floored it to either prevent the car getting in or at least discourage him.So, we have a typical arrogant car driver who feels he has a God given right to force his way in anywhere, and an arrogant truck driver who’d rather spend 30 minutes on the hard shoulder than back off slightly and put 0.5 seconds onto his day.
I rest my case m’lud.
There was some twit that posted a load of videos on here to supposedly demonstrate dangerous car drivers but was just him driving badly hoping to abuse the fact he had right of way and a dashcam to cause unnecessary accidents.
The truck driver, either through ■■■■ poor observation and awareness of vehicles around him, allowed himself into a situation where there was a high risk of a collision or he was deliberately out on the prowl for a dashcam video to put on youtube.
the maoster:
Maybe it’s just me, but from the footage shown it seemed the truck driver had a constant (albeit too small) gap to the truck in front but the gap suddenly decreased prior to the car appearing into view. My feeling is dashcam man saw the car coming down the sliproad in his n/s mirror and promptly floored it to either prevent the car getting in or at least discourage him.So, we have a typical arrogant car driver who feels he has a God given right to force his way in anywhere, and an arrogant truck driver who’d rather spend 30 minutes on the hard shoulder than back off slightly and put 0.5 seconds onto his day.
I rest my case m’lud.
So it wasn’t the driver in front lifting off the gas… 
DrivingMissDaisy:
So it wasn’t the driver in front lifting off the gas…
What happened to keeping her lit…:lol:
DrivingMissDaisy:
the maoster:
Maybe it’s just me, but from the footage shown it seemed the truck driver had a constant (albeit too small) gap to the truck in front but the gap suddenly decreased prior to the car appearing into view. My feeling is dashcam man saw the car coming down the sliproad in his n/s mirror and promptly floored it to either prevent the car getting in or at least discourage him.So, we have a typical arrogant car driver who feels he has a God given right to force his way in anywhere, and an arrogant truck driver who’d rather spend 30 minutes on the hard shoulder than back off slightly and put 0.5 seconds onto his day.
I rest my case m’lud.
So it wasn’t the driver in front lifting off the gas…
That’s what I’d say tbh, most likely the driver with the cam was sat on his limiter, so unlikely that he sped up to close the gap.
Still unobservant and poor driving though.
As I and others have said, on approach to a slip road like that one, you’re going to be expecting things like that. Now, we’ve no idea what’s going on to his right, which may have took more attention, also the fact he was close to the vehicle in front must’ve been taking a lot of attention, but I’d have made sure there was enough room for a car between me and the truck if I couldn’t observe to make sure the slip road was safe.
Of course, the car would still have got a dose of main beam 
Open your eyes…The car over takes him at a reasonable speed…the lorry driver probably thought he was going to make it…but the car driver bottles it at the last second…realises he’s running out of lane…so puts his foot down…the lorry driver probably didn’t expect that… And for all anyone knows…he might have had one of those super fools right on his tail end, making him more reluctant to brake…
waynedl:
DrivingMissDaisy:
the maoster:
Maybe it’s just me, but from the footage shown it seemed the truck driver had a constant (albeit too small) gap to the truck in front but the gap suddenly decreased prior to the car appearing into view. My feeling is dashcam man saw the car coming down the sliproad in his n/s mirror and promptly floored it to either prevent the car getting in or at least discourage him.So, we have a typical arrogant car driver who feels he has a God given right to force his way in anywhere, and an arrogant truck driver who’d rather spend 30 minutes on the hard shoulder than back off slightly and put 0.5 seconds onto his day.
I rest my case m’lud.
So it wasn’t the driver in front lifting off the gas…
That’s what I’d say tbh, most likely the driver with the cam was sat on his limiter, so unlikely that he sped up to close the gap.
Still unobservant and poor driving though.
As I and others have said, on approach to a slip road like that one, you’re going to be expecting things like that. Now, we’ve no idea what’s going on to his right, which may have took more attention, also the fact he was close to the vehicle in front must’ve been taking a lot of attention, but I’d have made sure there was enough room for a car between me and the truck if I couldn’t observe to make sure the slip road was safe.
Of course, the car would still have got a dose of main beam
Ha ha ! He got a Dose of Main Bonnet ! Lol
peterm:
Dafman:
peterm:
Dafman:
The lorry driver did the correct thing, he didn’t move an inch and neither do I, you see this every day all the car had to do was accelerate and it is quite clear the car hit the lorry. You give way to the right, the car saw the lorry for a long time. And lmao at the two who said the lorry hit the car deliberately, come back when you have a bit of experience and you may see it differentlyIs forty years enough experience for me to say that the lorry driver might not have hit the car deliberately, but he certainly deliberately let the car hit him !
I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve avoided potentially fatal smashes by easing off/ braking, etc. How about if that car had ended up in the next lane and caused others to be involved. The ‘might is right’ attitude that some on here have, really amazes me. Maybe an attitude/intelligence test for all drivers is needed before being let loose on the roads .33 for me and if you watch the video you will see the car driver shot up the inside of the lorry and just before be pulled off slip road he slowed down, so I dont know how that was the lorry drivers fault
As me and others have said, the lorry sped up, closing the gap to shut the door on the car.
i suggest you watch the video on youtube and big screen it as the drivers speed is on the footage. he never deviates from 81 to 83 kmh during the whole incident. if you notice the silver estate car at 14 seconds shoots across the chevrons in front of the black cab back into lane one of the slip road. so whats to say the civic driver didn’t come from lane 1 to lane 2 of the slip road over the chevrons therefore the hgv driver didn’t see him till the impact,
at no point did the hgv accelerate to close the gap
but hey were supposed to have eyes up our arses and see everything.
I am really shocked on how many posters on here have no clue where the blind spots are on a truck and just cause the dash cam saw him (which is in the middle bottom of the window same level if not below the dash) you either say he did it on purpose or how about more likely the driver didn’t see due to said blind spots as I said on motorway I’m sure rog or someone will confirm this your meant to check your mirror every 6-8 seconds when travelling on a fast moving road its a little over 6 seconds from when he appears from the blind spot next to the passenger door and stuck on the front on the truck.
I’m also shocked at the ones what can’t judge distance as the truck never speeds up as the distance between the truck in front never really changes.
I’m not surprised the ones calling the driver in the video are the ones what go on about standards of professional drivers.
its just boils down to poor judgement on the cars part as he has all around vision, Right of way dictates HGV has right of way (truck can’t even be polite and move over or slow off if he don’t make himself seen), Even if he did fit he’s going to cause the truck to anchor up or brake due to pulling into his braking distance then making others behind see brake lights and brake too.
This is why we can’t have nice things 
K5Project:
I am really shocked on how many posters on here have no clue where the blind spots are on a truck and just cause the dash cam saw him (which is in the middle bottom of the window same level if not below the dash) you either say he did it on purpose or how about more likely the driver didn’t see due to said blind spots as I said on motorway I’m sure rog or someone will confirm this your meant to check your mirror every 6-8 seconds when travelling on a fast moving road its a little over 6 seconds from when he appears from the blind spot next to the passenger door and stuck on the front on the truck.
Think we all know where the blind spot is and the car is definately making a mistake trying to enter the motorway in this manner.
However at and just before the point of impact there is plenty that could be done to avoid the incident and let the car off with just a coffee bean shake or full blast on the horn, headlights (to show he was there off course). The car is slowing because he doesn’t know what to do, theres no sudden dip of the bonnet to show the brakes are coming on more a lift due to confusion.
Yes some out of the ordinary dare I say ‘professional’ compliance was required by the dash cam attendant to avoid the inevitable but either he choose not to, was caught totaly by surprise (unlikely) or best bet deliberately let things unfold as he was sick of being cut up at junctions.
Course he doesn’t have to give way or assist the car just that some of us would in order to avoid the hassle.
Do you believe the truck driver knew he would be bringing the car to a safe standstill afterwards, he hit it (or let it hit him) and bugger the consequences.
Think of the children 
Just thought I would post this from the Highway Code:
259
Joining the motorway.When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking.
I cannot believe anybody thinks the truck driver was not wrong.It was an abysmal case of bad driving and bad attitude.
The car driver was just as bad however the car driver is not the so called professional.
It is no wonder there are so many serious accidents with some of the attitudes towards other drivers on here.
Car drivers make mistakes truck drivers make mistakes and a good driver will make allowances for that.Anyone that thinks that truck driver did nothing wrong should not be on the road.
albion1971:
I cannot believe anybody thinks the truck driver was not wrong.It was an abysmal case of bad driving and bad attitude.
The car driver was just as bad however the car driver is not the so called professional.
It is no wonder there are so many serious accidents with some of the attitudes towards other drivers on here.Car drivers make mistakes truck drivers make mistakes and a good driver will make allowances for that.Anyone that thinks that truck driver did nothing wrong should not be on the road.
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yeah sod it, let’s just scrap the entire highway code.
The car driver learnt a very harsh lesson, and if he, everyone he’s told, and every car driver who has viewed the video learns from it then fantastic!!! In fact they should use this video for educational purposes!!!
We should be educating these morons rather then ‘allowing’ for them!
I sort of agree, but taking the crash because you have right of way is not on. An inch to the left or the right, or a mph slower or faster then that video could have been very different.
George@ASDA driver:
yeah sod it, let’s just scrap the entire highway code.The car driver learnt a very harsh lesson, and if he, everyone he’s told, and every car driver who has viewed the video learns from it then fantastic!!! In fact they should use this video for educational purposes!!!
We should be educating these morons rather then ‘allowing’ for them!
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