Dave55:
…Why should a driver have to look behind to compensate for poor driving?
So just keep on looking forward and bollox to whatever’s behind?
If I Can’t See It, It’s Not There
I thought that we are supposed to be ‘Professional Drivers’
I’m always ready to slow down or switch lanes well before the slip road, it’s where most accidents happen.
We should be ready to compensate for Bad Drivers, we all know how bad some driving is, especially at this time of year, everyone is rushing about without a care for other motorists.
It’s alright saying “it’s my right if way” try explaining that to the parents of the kid you’ve just helped to wipe out, all because you wouldn’t lift off or move lanes to give them some room.
Right or Wrong, the last thing I go to work for, is to Kill someone at the end of the day. !
If i was the truck driver, on noticing the car i would be thinking ‘ah look, a car that could possibly want to slot in in front of me. All he/she needs to to is put foot down and slot in. There’s no need for me to adjust speed’.
Perhaps the car was in the left hand slip & changed to the right hand slip at the last moment? Like I say you can’t be expected to watch everything all the time unless you’re a super trucker like some of the blokes on this thread…
It’s always going to be a tricky one, who is right is the eyes of the ‘law’ doesn’t necessarily correspond with who acted in the most responsibly correct manner.
When I did my motorbike test it opened my eyes more and I wished all other motorists could learn what I had. Now that I’m progressing to larger vehicles I see another, new picture and wish that both car drivers (and bikers and those bloomin cyclists) could see what I am seeing now.
It sounds awful ‘goody, goody’ but I really believe that if all motorists (of whatever size) could just have a bit more respect for one another - ie do unto others as you would have them do unto you then we’d all be so much happier and our roads much safer.
Given the amount of paper learning we do now with theory tests and hazard perception I just wish they would put these sorts of situations to good use to show differing types of motorists how to respect the other groups around them. The car driver should really have to go on a road safety course (part of which should be to sit in the drivers seat of a truck and see what can and cannot be seen) before being allowed back on the road. The truck driver also should have a skills update/revision for following too closely and possibly have his peripheral vision checked (depending on what can actually be seen from the drivers seat as opposed to what could be seen from the camera location).
I did laugh at the 56mph limit though 
(more misinformation for other motorists to believe!)
And not forgetting some drivers on here openly admit to adamantly not moving over for people joining from slip. Also, a lot of slip roads on M/ways are uphill so one can’t see over the banking until we are almost coming up to the level ( not all, before anyone pounces). Some slip roads are a lot shorter than you expect, some seem miles long. As someone else said, some car drivers will just drive around their own towns and when do venturing new places are not familiar and are too hesitant/unsure, blah blah. The car driver IS to blame though, but lorry driver could have eased back IF he had seen the car.
I’m not too keen on one of the slips in Leeds that join the M621 (wesbound) it’s uphill and quite short!
maybe the dash cam fitted to the truck made the driver think do you know what i’ve had ■■■■■ like you barge your way on to motorways in front of me to many times now and stand on the brakes. i have every right to keep my road position its up to you to speed up or slow down accordingly as your filtering from the right. you ■■■■ it up my dash cam catches the footage and its one knobhead car driver has learn’t a lesson and its only a bit of paperwork for me.
how many times have you pulled out to let some lemming in only for him to sit there at the side of you and in the end you’re the one that yet again has to adjust to pull in behind him or you knock off a few clicks to let them in and when there joining the carrigeway there tootling along at 45 mph without a care in the world.
looking back at the footage it looks like the honda has come across the chevrons and as for those that say oooo its only a small slip road that looks like its one that comes up from one of the motorways as its bloody long.
cheers
jon steering wheel attendant
Dipper_Dave:
Horrendous driving, obvious the car was entering off the slip well before, so easy to avoid.
Yes the car should give way (and all that crap) but this could have ended a lot worse.Driver should be ashamed to call himself a professional driver.
10 times + a day this happens to me and I avoid a drama by a simple act of easing off, heaven forbid I may even pop the brakes on to help.
So why do we have Highway Code ? I see more danger when someone on the M’way brakes or unnecessarily slows to let someone who should not be given license in. What would you do if you slow down or brake and in result of that caused even more serious collision ?
Goldilox:
And not forgetting some drivers on here openly admit to adamantly not moving over for people joining from slip.
What for ? To cause unnecessarily dangerous situation ? Where in Highway code does it say you must or should give way to cars entering the carriageway ?
" 259
Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking. "
But yes, that professional should be done for not keeping the safe distance to the vehicle in front. In result of that - avoidable incident happened
peterm:
Dafman:
The lorry driver did the correct thing, he didn’t move an inch and neither do I, you see this every day all the car had to do was accelerate and it is quite clear the car hit the lorry. You give way to the right, the car saw the lorry for a long time. And lmao at the two who said the lorry hit the car deliberately, come back when you have a bit of experience and you may see it differentlyIs forty years enough experience for me to say that the lorry driver might not have hit the car deliberately, but he certainly deliberately let the car hit him !
I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve avoided potentially fatal smashes by easing off/ braking, etc. How about if that car had ended up in the next lane and caused others to be involved. The ‘might is right’ attitude that some on here have, really amazes me. Maybe an attitude/intelligence test for all drivers is needed before being let loose on the roads .
33 for me and if you watch the video you will see the car driver shot up the inside of the lorry and just before be pulled off slip road he slowed down, so I dont know how that was the lorry drivers fault
could have been a scam till the car driver found out about the truck cam !! just saying
MisterStrood:
Goldilox:
And not forgetting some drivers on here openly admit to adamantly not moving over for people joining from slip.What for ? To cause unnecessarily dangerous situation ? Where in Highway code does it say you must or should give way to cars entering the carriageway ?
" 259
Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking. "But yes, that professional should be done for not keeping the safe distance to the vehicle in front. In result of that - avoidable incident happened
There’s no way that anyone could ‘remain’ on the slip road without actually stopping on it with that ridiculous road layout.That situation is then made much worse when idiots like the truck driver in question in this case are tailgating preventing traffic from merging safely.It’s surprising how many ‘drivers’ on here seem to be trying to justify the truck driver’s actions when it’s obvious that the whole issue was caused by tailgating to the point where seperation distance to the truck in front was around two cars lengths IE less than 40 feet.
The truck driver in this case needs taking off the road more than the car driver assuming that the idiot thinks that was a safe seperation distance especially on the approach to a junction where it’s obvious that traffic will be merging ahead.
The truck driver’s obviously an arse. He should have left more distance ahead of him, he should have been aware of the car in the slip long before it’s visible on the video and he should have adjusted his speed once it became apparent that the car driver had put himself in danger. Which was long before he appeared in the corner of the screen, or should have been if the driver had used his mirrors properly. Car driver is not blameless either, but I’d be ashamed to have driven a lorry in that way. Definitely caused an avoidable collision, or at least did nothing to help avoid it. Indefensible.
Dipper_Dave:
Horrendous driving, obvious the car was entering off the slip well before, so easy to avoid.
Yes the car should give way (and all that crap) but this could have ended a lot worse.Driver should be ashamed to call himself a professional driver.
10 times + a day this happens to me and I avoid a drama by a simple act of easing off, heaven forbid I may even pop the brakes on to help.
Notice how the driver closes the gap early on realising whats about to happen.
Shocking.
The footage, captured on the lorry’s dashboard camera, meant that the lorry driver was cleared of blame for the incident and no insurance claim was made against him or his employers.
Bollox- sorry the driver maybe technically correct in his ‘I have right of way’ attitude but in reality he/she is a danger to other road users.
That’s ok, god knows what was down his inside, or maybe another driver was up his rear, you never know
I genuinely don’t understand why the car driver didn’t just veer to the left onto the chevrons…ok you are not supposed to but it’s better than a crash.
The truck driver didn’t handle the situation at all well, but at the end of the day he was just driving along in lane 1, and wasn’t changing lanes or driving into anyone’s path.
I love the contrast the site says HGV to blame where the video says it relieved him of all blame
I very much doubt the driver saw the civic on a motorway your meant to check your mirrors every 6 or so seconds he enters in the blind spot and so you can see him just in the “camera’s view dash would be in the driver view” 24ish sec mark camera clear by 31 sec the car is on the front of the truck which he’s more likely to see as the front downward mirror is more in general eye line
Car drivers fault yes the truck should of back down if he saw him but I doubt he did we can only see 5-6 car lengths ahead so no idea what’s going on in front where the driver might of been looking
car driver doesn’t know how long his car in hence why he clipped the back end of his car on the cab he should of either slowed down gone in behind or took evasive action (not trying to force his way in by skin of his teeth) lorry is stuck at 56 I’m sure that car does at least 70? car driver made a choice when on the slip road to maintain his current speed
I have lost count of the number of times I have had to take evasive action in order for the car driver not to get injured/killed…And increasingly of late, the bloody lorry driver 
It`s getting boring to be honest, my patience is wearing thin…So esteemed members, please tell me exactly what I should do.
Thank you.
K5Project:
24ish sec mark camera clear by 31 sec the car is on the front of the truck
And between those times you can see the car reflection in the windscreen … appearing very quickly and slamming on the brakes (I would guess).
Yes the lorry driver was too close to the one in front, he probably should’ve pulled out to overtake by then (but he would’ve been in the wrong for pulling out too early no doubt!) and of course the car rushing down the slip and pulling out regardless wouldn’t have been a problem.
Maybe it’s just me, but from the footage shown it seemed the truck driver had a constant (albeit too small) gap to the truck in front but the gap suddenly decreased prior to the car appearing into view. My feeling is dashcam man saw the car coming down the sliproad in his n/s mirror and promptly floored it to either prevent the car getting in or at least discourage him.
So, we have a typical arrogant car driver who feels he has a God given right to force his way in anywhere, and an arrogant truck driver who’d rather spend 30 minutes on the hard shoulder than back off slightly and put 0.5 seconds onto his day.
I rest my case m’lud.