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Noremac:
That is one view, but it isn’t going to make the virus go away. If you want to hide in your cubbyhole until it is okay to come out, feel free to do so. Your various complaints about not being able to go for a pint fly in the face of your latest offerings though. Carry out?

In the film Contagion, Matt Damon’s character was immune. Plenty people could be naturally immune. Not sure Harry and his hand cannon have got much to do with anything.

My complaints about not being able to go for a pint actually just confirm that the government agrees with my view not yours.Which was my point.

In the case of Harry’s cannon I was referring to the indeterminate status of the load.You know like the indeterminate status of the virulence of this viru…bioweapon.

You said you feel lucky in that regard.I don’t.

I’m more interested in taking out my opponent at this point knowing that I’ve got the weapon to do it before I go.Rather than worrying about the fact that I’ve been gut shot in the back by him and it’s going to hurt until I’ve bled out.

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Carryfast:
My complaints about not being able to go for a pint actually just confirm that the government agrees with my view not yours.Which was my point.

In the case of Harry’s cannon I was referring to the indeterminate status of the load.You know like the indeterminate status of the virulence of this viru…bioweapon.

You said you feel lucky in that regard.I don’t.

I’m more interested in taking out my opponent at this point knowing that I’ve got the weapon to do it before I go.Rather than worrying about the fact that I’ve been gut shot in the back by him and it’s going to hurt until I’ve bled out.

A staged release of lockdown seems inevitable unless you intend on everyone staying at home. I don’t recall suggesting that this should happen immediately. Hoping it will go away does not exactly seem realistic. It does seem sensible for those most likely to withstand the virus to be among the first to be allowed to resume activity. I have not made comment at any stage on my personal situation and whether I feel lucky about that.

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Noremac:
A staged release of lockdown seems inevitable unless you intend on everyone staying at home. I don’t recall suggesting that this should happen immediately. Hoping it will go away does not exactly seem realistic. It does seem sensible for those most likely to withstand the virus to be among the first to be allowed to resume activity. I have not made comment at any stage on my personal situation and whether I feel lucky about that.

Realistically you’re betting the farm on its supposed weakness v the ‘right’ demographic.That’s all I mean’t by lucky.Although that’s probably the only game in town.

I remain to be convinced that it’s anything other than an unsustainable unrecoverable bioweapon hit or at least accidental premature release.Just without the devastation and faster and more severe effects of a nuclear attack.With the enemy having made no secret of its intent in that regard.

Hopefully I’m way wide of the mark in that thought.But by definition that would then have to mean trusting the motives and intentions of CCP here unconditionally to have not made such a weapon and released it either deliberately,or accidentally.

With some saying it’s the latter and luckily for the world it was unfinished and unperfected and thereby flawed in its ability to transmit and kill as well as intended, and too fragile and susceptible to numerous types of factors ranged against it.Time will tell.

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Carryfast:

Noremac:
A staged release of lockdown seems inevitable unless you intend on everyone staying at home. I don’t recall suggesting that this should happen immediately. Hoping it will go away does not exactly seem realistic. It does seem sensible for those most likely to withstand the virus to be among the first to be allowed to resume activity. I have not made comment at any stage on my personal situation and whether I feel lucky about that.

Realistically you’re betting the farm on its supposed weakness v the ‘right’ demographic.That’s all I mean’t by lucky.Although that’s probably the only game in town.

I remain to be convinced that it’s anything other than an unsustainable unrecoverable bioweapon hit or at least accidental premature release.Just without the devastation and faster and more severe effects of a nuclear attack.With the enemy having made no secret of its intent in that regard.

Hopefully I’m way wide of the mark in that thought.But by definition that would then have to mean trusting the motives and intentions of CCP here unconditionally to have not made such a weapon and released it either deliberately,or accidentally.

With some saying it’s the latter and luckily for the world it was unfinished and unperfected and thereby flawed in its ability to transmit and kill as well as intended, and too fragile and susceptible to numerous types of factors ranged against it.Time will tell.

You seem to be directing your bioweapon comments in reply to my post.

You are probably not a microbiologist and you have no clue even if it is possible to design a virus like this. There isn’t much doubt that this pandemic could have been avoided whether the virus came from the wet market or a laboratory investigating coronaviruses, granted. This is China’s fault, yes. Your comments on deliberate release or deliberate intent are however pure speculation.

There is an issue over Chinese honesty about the true nature of the disease and extent after the outbreak started.

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Noremac:
You seem to be directing your bioweapon comments in reply to my post.

You are probably not a microbiologist and you have no clue even if it is possible to design a virus like this. There isn’t much doubt that this pandemic could have been avoided whether the virus came from the wet market or a laboratory investigating coronaviruses, granted. This is China’s fault, yes. Your comments on deliberate release or deliberate intent are however pure speculation.

There is an issue over Chinese honesty about the true nature of the disease and extent after the outbreak started.

Firstly if you’re going to send a load of people out to their potential deaths or permanent organ damage it does help to ask yourself first what it is you’re actually sending them into.The question of bioweapon or natural virus needs to be answered first.While there’s enough evidence out there to suggest it’s the former until proven otherwise.As opposed to your obvious ideas vice versa in that regard.

It seems to me that you want to trust the CCP and dismiss anything which implies war with China in that regard.There are too many like you out there with the interests of the CCP more at heart than your own people.

Yes there is an issue over China’s honesty.Not least of which being the questions how did they intend to deliver their known bioweapons programme and create plausible deniability for any attack to avoid retaliation.The fact that an accidental release may have meant that plan having to be put into effect prematurely and haphazardly makes no difference.

Meanwhile in the real world outside the UK Communist Purpose bubble many of us know what this is all about and the solution to it.Firstly hopefully China’s navy has to go.Because their navy will be crucial in implementing the next part of the CCP plan after this bioweapon has done its damage.Then see it goes from there.

youtube.com/watch?v=ExbyHHj4 … 7xoHXZqcm-

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Carryfast:
Firstly if you’re going to send a load of people out to their potential deaths or permanent organ damage it does help to ask yourself first what it is you’re actually sending them into.The question of bioweapon or natural virus needs to be answered first.While there’s enough evidence out there to suggest it’s the former until proven otherwise.As opposed to your obvious ideas vice versa in that regard.

It seems to me that you want to trust the CCP and dismiss anything which implies war with China in that regard.There are too many like you out there with the interests of the CCP more at heart than your own people.

Yes there is an issue over China’s honesty.Not least of which being the questions how did they intend to deliver their known bioweapons programme and create plausible deniability for any attack to avoid retaliation.The fact that an accidental release may have meant that plan having to be put into effect prematurely and haphazardly makes no difference.

Meanwhile in the real world outside the UK Communist Purpose bubble many of us know what this is all about and the solution to it.Firstly hopefully China’s navy has to go.Because their navy will be crucial in implementing the next part of the CCP plan after this bioweapon has done its damage.Then see it goes from there.

youtube.com/watch?v=ExbyHHj4 … 7xoHXZqcm-

I’ve not mentioned the CCP in any post on this forum. You are directing your controversial allegations about China specifically at me. Why is that?

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Noremac:

Carryfast:
Firstly if you’re going to send a load of people out to their potential deaths or permanent organ damage it does help to ask yourself first what it is you’re actually sending them into.The question of bioweapon or natural virus needs to be answered first.While there’s enough evidence out there to suggest it’s the former until proven otherwise.As opposed to your obvious ideas vice versa in that regard.

It seems to me that you want to trust the CCP and dismiss anything which implies war with China in that regard.There are too many like you out there with the interests of the CCP more at heart than your own people.

Yes there is an issue over China’s honesty.Not least of which being the questions how did they intend to deliver their known bioweapons programme and create plausible deniability for any attack to avoid retaliation.The fact that an accidental release may have meant that plan having to be put into effect prematurely and haphazardly makes no difference.

Meanwhile in the real world outside the UK Communist Purpose bubble many of us know what this is all about and the solution to it.Firstly hopefully China’s navy has to go.Because their navy will be crucial in implementing the next part of the CCP plan after this bioweapon has done its damage.Then see it goes from there.

youtube.com/watch?v=ExbyHHj4 … 7xoHXZqcm-

I’ve not mentioned the CCP in any post on this forum. You are directing your controversial allegations about China specifically at me. Why is that?

Because it’s you who obviously wants lift the lock down while at the same time refusing to acknowledge any suggestion that you could be releasing them into the teeth of a bioweapon as anything more than speculation.Which by implication means that you’d rather put the credibility of the CCP’s plausible deniability agenda ahead of public safety.

A bit like when they said no human to human transmission.So you’re saying that locking down China at that time, on the basis that the bioweapon alarm bells were ringing off the wall, would have been an unjustified accusation of bioweapon release based on nothing more that speculation.

Here’s a clue the US and Australia and hopefully us sooner or later, haven’t gone looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy based on just ‘speculation’.More like the realisation that the CCP are lying scum.

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Carryfast:
Because it’s you who obviously wants lift the lock down while at the same time refusing to acknowledge any suggestion that you could be releasing them into the teeth of a bioweapon as anything more than speculation.Which by implication means that you’d rather put the credibility of the CCP’s plausible deniability agenda ahead of public safety.

A bit like when they said no human to human transmission.So you’re saying that locking down China at that time, on the basis that the bioweapon alarm bells were ringing off the wall, would have been an unjustified accusation of bioweapon release based on nothing more that speculation.

Here’s a clue the US and Australia and hopefully us sooner or later, haven’t gone looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy based on just ‘speculation’.More like the realisation that the CCP are lying scum.

Sorry I don’t see the connection between discussing the gradual release of a lockdown with supporting a political party in a foreign country.

The US and Australian foreign policy and military operations are nothing to do with me.

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Noremac:

Carryfast:
Because it’s you who obviously wants lift the lock down while at the same time refusing to acknowledge any suggestion that you could be releasing them into the teeth of a bioweapon as anything more than speculation.Which by implication means that you’d rather put the credibility of the CCP’s plausible deniability agenda ahead of public safety.

A bit like when they said no human to human transmission.So you’re saying that locking down China at that time, on the basis that the bioweapon alarm bells were ringing off the wall, would have been an unjustified accusation of bioweapon release based on nothing more that speculation.

Here’s a clue the US and Australia and hopefully us sooner or later, haven’t gone looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy based on just ‘speculation’.More like the realisation that the CCP are lying scum.

Sorry I don’t see the connection between discussing the gradual release of a lockdown with supporting a political party in a foreign country.

You havnt been a member here long enough to realise that carryfast doesnt need an actual connection to keep spouting his point.
No matter how minute, he’ll make anything fit his agenda and keep coming back (changing the subject more times than mastermind) until you either give up or lose the will to live

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Noremac:
Sorry I don’t see the connection between discussing the gradual release of a lockdown with supporting a political party in a foreign country.

The US and Australian foreign policy and military operations are nothing to do with me.

There’s an obvious direct link between the level of the risk in lifting the lock down depending on the type and origin of the virus.

Who else gains other than CCP by not treating it as the worse probable case scenario.Of a bioweapon that has either been released or escaped prematurely and has the potential to cause havoc given free circulation among the population just as it’s been designed to do.

I’d suggest that the ‘military operations’ in question show that at least some parts of the western governments have drawn their own conclusions in that regard.It also explains why the lock down won’t be lifted any time soon.All possibly being hidden because much of the population has no stomach for what will and what has to happen next.

So here we are lock down still in place and the US rightly looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy all perfectly understandable and easily explained ‘if’ I’m right.

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Carryfast:
There’s an obvious direct link between the level of the risk in lifting the lock down depending on the type and origin of the virus.

Who else gains other than CCP by not treating it as the worse probable case scenario.Of a bioweapon that has either been released or escaped prematurely and has the potential to cause havoc given free circulation among the population just as it’s been designed to do.

I’d suggest that the ‘military operations’ in question show that at least some parts of the western governments have drawn their own conclusions in that regard.It also explains why the lock down won’t be lifted any time soon.All possibly being hidden because much of the population has no stomach for what will and what has to happen next.

So here we are lock down still in place and the US rightly looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy all perfectly understandable and easily explained ‘if’ I’m right.

Carryfast, you have a right to express your views, although your appear to be on a war footing based on suspicion. Many readers of these forums are willing to look over your posts without commenting. However, you are aiming these comments at me as if I oppose your view when I didn’t comment on your view in the first place.

You seem to have made the gigantic leap of deciding that it is possible to design a virus and your posts are predicated on this. Please do not involve me as I want nothing to do with it.

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Carryfast:

Noremac:
Sorry I don’t see the connection between discussing the gradual release of a lockdown with supporting a political party in a foreign country.

The US and Australian foreign policy and military operations are nothing to do with me.

There’s an obvious direct link between the level of the risk in lifting the lock down depending on the type and origin of the virus.

Who else gains other than CCP by not treating it as the worse probable case scenario.Of a bioweapon that has either been released or escaped prematurely and has the potential to cause havoc given free circulation among the population just as it’s been designed to do.

I’d suggest that the ‘military operations’ in question show that at least some parts of the western governments have drawn their own conclusions in that regard.It also explains why the lock down won’t be lifted any time soon.All possibly being hidden because much of the population has no stomach for what will and what has to happen next.

So here we are lock down still in place and the US rightly looking for a fight with the Chinese Navy all perfectly understandable and easily explained ‘if’ I’m right.

I can’t understand how a man of your obvious, considerable intellect persists in this China demonization.The biggest demons on our planet are to be found in the west,killbillys,Soros,Rothies,Gates,Pope,Bronfman dynasty chez Canada,Orsini,Brakspears in Italy,Li crime dynasty in China,Muslim brotherhood in the middle east.These are the earths cancer components hopefully due one hell of a commupence some day soon,stop plucking at the low hanging fruit narratives old boy. :neutral_face:

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hers another attempt to divert the unstoppable from the unmoveable…

GOOD OLD CAPTAIN TOM AND THE RAF.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b … s-52453194

for chistssake will someone comment on this before this one gets locked again… :smiley:

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manalishi:
I can’t understand how a man of your obvious, considerable intellect persists in this China demonization.The biggest demons on our planet are to be found in the west,killbillys,Soros,Rothies,Gates,Pope,Bronfman dynasty chez Canada,Orsini,Brakspears in Italy,Li crime dynasty in China,Muslim brotherhood in the middle east.These are the earths cancer components hopefully due one hell of a commupence some day soon,stop plucking at the low hanging fruit narratives old boy. :neutral_face:

I’m not denying that all the different NWO factions are in on it but why would you want to leave out their just as evil CCP accessory and enforcer.The link between China’s bioweapons facilities like the Wuhan lab and WHO Gates’ involvement is clear enough.While the Islamics have always been an ally of Communism since at least the 1967 Arab Israeli wars.

While whatever the elites’ deep state is doing in the West it certainly isn’t doing anything that isn’t in the interests of the CCP.As for the low hanging fruit more like the CCP and its military wing is in the way and it will have to go first before anyone can deal with its World ■■■■■■■■■■ backers and allies.

Which changes anything how.Regarding the issue of what is more likely a hidden ongoing civil defence response to an all too real bio attack.But the government can’t say that because it would freak out a weak modern generation.Who’d rather do the North Korean clapping act and regard enemies as friends, than deal with the truth.

As opposed to a fake virus Deep State/CCP power grab and coup.

The end result being similar with the same evil agenda behind it either way.It seems strange why you seem so keen to want to leave the role of CCP out of all this.

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Carryfast is on the payroll of Orange Man Good to make posts all over the internet telling people that CCP Bad. On top of that he is paid $0.50 every time he writes “CCP”. I have no idea why he thinks people on a UK trucking forum care what the CCP does. Most truckers are thick as ■■■■ and need a map, torch and written instructions just to know how to wipe their own asses.

I am perplexed why the mods even bother with the hassle of screening his posts prior to public appearance. One click of a button would solve all of these “problems” and would encourage him to seek out other anti-China conspiracy theorist platforms (of which there are hundreds) that match his agenda. :bulb:

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i reckon if the mods do that to him,then its armageddon for the rest of us… :laughing:

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Carryfast:

manalishi:
I can’t understand how a man of your obvious, considerable intellect persists in this China demonization.The biggest demons on our planet are to be found in the west,killbillys,Soros,Rothies,Gates,Pope,Bronfman dynasty chez Canada,Orsini,Brakspears in Italy,Li crime dynasty in China,Muslim brotherhood in the middle east.These are the earths cancer components hopefully due one hell of a commupence some day soon,stop plucking at the low hanging fruit narratives old boy. :neutral_face:

I’m not denying that all the different NWO factions are in on it but why would you want to leave out their just as evil CCP accessory and enforcer.The link between China’s bioweapons facilities like the Wuhan lab and WHO Gates’ involvement is clear enough.While the Islamics have always been an ally of Communism since at least the 1967 Arab Israeli wars.

While whatever the elites’ deep state is doing in the West it certainly isn’t doing anything that isn’t in the interests of the CCP.As for the low hanging fruit more like the CCP and its military wing is in the way and it will have to go first before anyone can deal with its World ■■■■■■■■■■ backers and allies.

Which changes anything how.Regarding the issue of what is more likely a hidden ongoing civil defence response to an all too real bio attack.But the government can’t say that because it would freak out a weak modern generation.Who’d rather do the North Korean clapping act and regard enemies as friends, than deal with the truth.

As opposed to a fake virus Deep State/CCP power grab and coup.

The end result being similar with the same evil agenda behind it either way.It seems strange why you seem so keen to want to leave the role of CCP out of all this.

Well there’s a serious and credible fort derrick bio lab elephant in the room component to this,as well as a Soros tie in to the Wuhan laboratory (quelle suprise) There’s your deep-state in all it’s satanic splendour right there.We will never get to the heart of who/what/why of the matter,well outside of our purviews tbh it’s all a bit unknowable.
I’m no cheerleader for China,they wouldn’t be a template people if I was a creator god designing a new world populace,that would be a more of a Scandinavian type deal and their utilisations of powdered Rhino/Elephant horn for aphrodisiacal purposes is one of the most disgusting features of our world today,ditto shark fin soup,dog kebabs etc,yes I share your distaste for this nations cultural and political agendas but as far as I know they don’t have a criminal sino equivalent of the Federal reserve,printing,magic money,conjured from thin air,but charged to the tax payers of the west,simply to service the interest which their governments accrue from said borrowings.An insane but probable intentional mechanism that was always doomed to lead us to where we’re now heading for at a rapid rate of knots.

As far as I’m aware China’s military isn’t on the tick compared to uncle Sam,which amasses it’s own militia despite nursing a 20 trillion dollar deficit,so we can only assume their business model is predicated on future C.I.A underscored geopolitical ambitions with, tried and trusted land grabs,Venezuela,Iraq etc etc (with the requisite tyrant puppets enthroned) of course.

As I mentioned in a previous thread,my personal dot- joins,as ever,lead to the very quintessence of the deep-state Cabal and that will invariably lead you to the House Of Rothschild,the Satanically infused bloodline behind…pretty much everything which distresses planet earth,instigators of wars,revolutions,political ‘movements’ anything draconian basically.In comparison,the CCP is a mere,Red :sunglasses: …herring,a sideshow.

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dieseldog999:
hers another attempt to divert the unstoppable from the unmoveable…

GOOD OLD CAPTAIN TOM AND THE RAF.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b … s-52453194

for chistssake will someone comment on this before this one gets locked again… :smiley:

Here’s a comment; someone at the DFT needs their arse kicked.

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albion1938:

dieseldog999:
hers another attempt to divert the unstoppable from the unmoveable…

GOOD OLD CAPTAIN TOM AND THE RAF.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b … s-52453194

for chistssake will someone comment on this before this one gets locked again… :smiley:

Here’s a comment; someone at the DFT needs their arse kicked.

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+1
dont they just.
beancounting officialdom at its finest,yet its ok for everyone to stand outside like brain dead seals waiting on someone to throw them a fish.