COVID (again) / make sense of it [Merged]

IF Covid has been blown out of proportion from the start…

Ask yourselves “What is achieved by ending the lockdown, but extending the social distancing”…

Answer:

Big Business - struggles to recover market share in the “changed big society” we’ve now backdoored into, by accident or design of our current Tories, who supposedly have nothing to do with Cameron’s old agenda…

Small businesses - will thrive on the other hand, as they now have people laid off from faraway commuter work taken on locally for far less money, but less incentive to go out and waste higher overhead costs…
Although the lock-down is over in all-but-name by this point, people discover that to earn half the money locally, buying your food locally, and taking your holidays locally as well - means your spending as a household drops even faster than your pay did. Your disposable income goes UP. :open_mouth: There might even be a baby boom if previously working commuter couples end up being “Dad works for half pay locally, Mum gets job at local parade of shops” meaning a return of things like “Family Dinners” and Dad getting rid of the Merc or Audi that he used to commute to town in…

The first everyone will notice here is “rather busy townie roads” at the same time as “deserted cross-country trunk roads”…

NO return of “Rat Race” rush-hour traffic on roads like the M25 or M1 - We’re already seeing a clean-up of the environment as a result of “less traffic”, and more noticably “no vapour trails in the sky”…

This is the biggest upheaval we’ve seen for a full century, let alone our own lifetimes.
Even during the Blitz - you could go down the pub and socialize, go to work, walking around the sandbags, with your gasmask and tin hat hanging off your belt…

Not so this time.

Businesses that rely on “social activity” are doomed, but hey - we’d already lost most of our pubs… No further noticable harm done there then.
What about Eateries? Fine - if you cook up a product that people within walking distance want to buy, or can at least deliver food to a wider area using minimum wage drivers… Lots of new jobs for such drivers huh?
Then there’s “Corporate Hospitality” - Toally doomed imo, but then again, “Who cares” if you don’t have any of your own household income relying on this particular sector.
Mummy used to work in PR, and Daddy used to be a big-shot Yuman Rights Lawyer doing taxpayer-funded work for people he can now no longer even meet up with! Oh dear! - How are the mighty fallen! :smiling_imp:
The rest of us see “Another couple of flash cars missing off the M25 this morning…”. :stuck_out_tongue:

What I’m getting at here is that “Socially Distanced” becomes the new Norm.

Other knock-on effects, are “less diseases spread” across the entire spectrum, Everything from Colds and Flu to the Clap…
A healthier society then, and more importantly one far less reliant upon the NHS.
The collapse in fuel prices - is a symptom rather than a benefit of what is already happening here.
I won’t just suggest that “We’ve seen Oil at $100 for the last time” - but we’ve also seen “Oil at even $50 for the last time” as well, despite Oil starting this year above that level.
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I also suggest that food prices will come DOWN rather than “Rise”, as we move towards becoming self-sufficient in our own farming capabilities again.
No More “■■■■ Seed” and “Lavender” by the time we’re done… More “Thanet Earth” type places popping up though.
Food Imports will continue to take place with regards to Tropical fruits, or stuff that continues to be cheaper from overseas, such as Mass-produced pet food, which we’re already stocking on our shelves.
No need to “Eat our own pets” any time soon then!

The EU? - We’re already able to continue importing EU grown stuff as before, with the only threat to such supply being if the EU should try to impose tariffs on that food to somehow “starve us out”, which won’t work, as what we import - doesn’t actually consist of many staples - does it?
If anything, the EU will end up with a “Food Glut” in a similar way to the world’s recent Oil Glut. They’ll try and keep us in by selling us food at knock-down prices IF you stay in…
There’s no need. We can freely buy cut-priced food from anywhere we damned well please from outside of the EU but including FROM the EU as well, if we wish.
It doesn’t need a “Free Trade Agreement” - we just carry on as before, the EU daring not to “block the trade” already taking place.
Is there a shortage of Oranges of late? NO! - But Spain might end up with an unsold glut - if the EU don’t stop interfering!!

The lock-down is practically already over in all but name. People are busying-up the streets ever more each day that goes by now.
Economic Activity within towns and cities is already returning to normal. It is City-City stuff that seems to be on the back foot still…
How come? - Could it be it is because if you are travelling in a car on a trunk road now - you might get pulled by plod, and asked to produce your “Key Worker Letter” hmm?
No Letter=Fined at the Roadside for taking an unnecessary journey…

Thus, “Stay at Home” gets relaxed to “Stay in your towns”… Then the Schools go back a few weeks later… No need to stop “Social Distancing” - until it has done the damage to BIG business that I reckon it was designed to do from the start: Doesn’t anyone find it a bit odd that some large firms that have been very public in “not furloughing anyone” - and yet where have their former regular traffic and liveried vehicles gone to? - IF that firm hasn’t furloughed it’s workforce?
On the other hand, It is plenty busy enough in towns already huh?

Just some observations…

Call it “2020 Vision” if you like… :stuck_out_tongue:

As long as the NHS can cope then I wonder what the death rates difference would be in these two scenarios until a vaccine is produced in what looks like a couple of years

1 - scrap the current measures and let the virus run free until exhausted

2 - keep the current measures for 2 or more years with the most vulnerable virtually locked up

ROG:
As long as the NHS can cope then I wonder what the death rates difference would be in these two scenarios until a vaccine is produced in what looks like a couple of years

1 - scrap the current measures and let the virus run free until exhausted

2 - keep the current measures for 2 or more years with the most vulnerable virtually locked up

A well reasoned, and “correct” answer to this question is a good contender for the Nobel prize!
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I’m not taking the pee here, Roger.
It is an important and valid question.
Various experts with loads of data will be looking at this and arguing about it.
But it will be a politician who makes any decisions. Sure, they’ll tell us they “are taking expert advice”, and there will be lots to choose from, but there won’t be one “correct” answer. At the moment they haven’t yet told us who is on the SAGE committee. It could be Prof Minford and Ben Goldacre’s pet cat for all we know!

We don’t want a “Vaccine” any more than we want a permanent lock-down.

Think back to what “Retrovoir” was with regards to AIDS a while back…

To start with, we heard of mainly “Gay Scene” males, Factor 8 users, and junkies sharing needles - that were likely to get taken out by this plague.

When Retrovoir came along, it inhibited the disease rather than “cured” it. It didn’t stop you from getting it in the first place, so was in no way a “Vaccine”.
To the upside, no change to lifestyle was then required of the taker of retrovoir - in order for it to work.

THAT then - would be the “medical solution” that we want and need for Coronavirus…

NOT some “Compulsory Vaccine” that’ll end up tagging us all for eternity, and/or make us slaves to a new kind of Social Scoring Nanny State that we don’t want nor need at this time of crisis.

What happens next if you find you cannot get work unless you’ve had this tagged vaccine?

Freedom taker.com site has a downloadable PDF you can take to a vaccination centre, making it clear they must guarantee against any potential future,
health compromises,via their signatures which of course they’re unlikely to supply.It’s an American website so can’t be sure if there’s any fundamental legal differences tbh.

Franglais:

ROG:
As long as the NHS can cope then I wonder what the death rates difference would be in these two scenarios until a vaccine is produced in what looks like a couple of years

1 - scrap the current measures and let the virus run free until exhausted

2 - keep the current measures for 2 or more years with the most vulnerable virtually locked up

A well reasoned, and “correct” answer to this question is a good contender for the Nobel prize!
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I’m not taking the pee here, Roger.
It is an important and valid question.
Various experts with loads of data will be looking at this and arguing about it.
But it will be a politician who makes any decisions. Sure, they’ll tell us they “are taking expert advice”, and there will be lots to choose from, but there won’t be one “correct” answer. At the moment they haven’t yet told us who is on the SAGE committee. It could be Prof Minford and Ben Goldacre’s pet cat for all we know!

It was reported in The Times today that government scientific advisers are receiving death threats online so it may make sense for the public not to know who they are, happening to advisors in Germany too so not just a UK problem

Winseer:
We don’t want a “Vaccine” any more than we want a permanent lock-down.

Think back to what “Retrovoir” was with regards to AIDS a while back…

To start with, we heard of mainly “Gay Scene” males, Factor 8 users, and junkies sharing needles - that were likely to get taken out by this plague.

When Retrovoir came along, it inhibited the disease rather than “cured” it. It didn’t stop you from getting it in the first place, so was in no way a “Vaccine”.
To the upside, no change to lifestyle was then required of the taker of retrovoir - in order for it to work.

THAT then - would be the “medical solution” that we want and need for Coronavirus…

NOT some “Compulsory Vaccine” that’ll end up tagging us all for eternity, and/or make us slaves to a new kind of Social Scoring Nanny State that we don’t want nor need at this time of crisis.

What happens next if you find you cannot get work unless you’ve had this tagged vaccine?

(For others curious as to what “Offensive picture” got taken down from my earlier post: It was a picture of a “tagged” Belgian Jewish family wearing their Star of David lapels - Something that history should teach us we should resist happening again at all costs!!)

Mods - DieselDave:
…Erm I’m a bit surprised you deleted a picture that was in the context of “If you don’t learn from what happened before, you’re more likely to let the same fate happen all over again”.

Is it offensive to remember the Holocaust, rather than “not offensive” trying to brush it under the carpet with “censorship”?

My point was “We don’t want to be tagged - it is a social stigma just like what happened to civilian Jewish people under the ■■■■ regime”.
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Just read this on kent-online… Beggars belief!

The DM are also covering this big Office of National Statistics release… wit clickable map so you find out how many deaths local to you - have apparently been bounced into some other neighboring area for “confidentiality reasons” my arse.

“To protect confidentiality, a small number of deaths have been reallocated between neighbouring areas.” - That corrupts the entire data stack. How easy it is to turn a serious and perhaps useful study - into “Fake News”. People will rumble it if they know of half a dozen people that have died in the same neighborhood - but the map says “four deaths” for the entire neighborhood because of such “data re-allocation to neighboring areas”… WHY “Re-allocate the data with neighboring areas” in this way? How does that “protect confidentialilty”■■? Why feel the NEED to smudge and obscure the results even■■? :frowning:

What a disgusting piece of work the mainstream media is - when it comes to dishing us out with actual UNADULTERATED information!
(You’d think a news editor would reject the entire data release, as actually admitting in their own text legend that “This data is unreliable, because we’ve deliberately adulterated it.”)
Don’t print “unreliable sources”. Where have all the proper journalists gone? Why make a “Puff Piece” out of something so serious?

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Same old Same old eh? :frowning:

Deep state,cabal hoax par excellence. A multitude of birds with one stone black op.Kept my powder dry for some time on this but I genuinely believe this is the softener for further shenanigans,long in the planning.If it quacks like an agenda 21…etc.

manalishi:
Deep state,cabal hoax par excellence. A multitude of birds with one stone black op.Kept my powder dry for some time on this but I genuinely believe this is the softener for further shenanigans,long in the planning.If it quacks like an agenda 21…etc.

Agenda 21=UN=CCP=WHO

Serpent around a needle payback for the Opium Wars with the bonus that they take all their victims’ property just like the ■■■■ holocaust.

Feel free to believe that it’s the bankers ‘who’ are coming to get you.( Pun intended ).

Rothfeller=CFR=committee 300=council of 13=Trilateral Commission=(Agenda 21).Throw a few more ingredients into the mix,Skull&Bones,C.I.A,Mi6,Mossad,Knights Of (Malta/Garter),Scottish/York rite Freemasonery and whatever the Bavarian lodge established by Weishaupt circa 1776 are now masquerading as,and you pretty much have the full house of what’s stacked against us.Certainly the (Li) sino bloodline,assiduously bankrolled by Rothefeller nexus and trotted out as the “planetary business model” for years,especially by David Rockefeller r.I.h,et al, and you see the so-called CPP are merely a trojan horse,just another component of it all certainly, but far from the main event.

It does offer a comfort zone for a cowboy/injun type narrative to a degree but they’ve earned their military trinkets over the decades by virtue of their role as sweatshop operatives,their people worked to the bone to provide i phones etc, and virtually everything else to the western consumers requirements. You might not like them but the Bankster/vipers of our planet won’t be found in Bejing.

The next cards being played are

(1) America accuses China
(2) China ‘admits’ it has found a rogue Chinese citizen who took a bribe of a million to start this disease in the wet market via the use of a contaminated specimen from Wuhan Labs. China has already sent said citizen “To the Quarry”…
(3) America now stands accused - they cannot prove they didn’t put that million in dead woman’s account…
(4) Trump gets blamed
(5) Biden runs on “Anyone but Trump” ticket
(6) We all wake up
(7) An Australian investigation digs the real dirt
(8) Trump unexpectedly hangs on, despite Biden winning the popular vote by a larger margin than Hitlary did in 2016
(9) Trump offers the UK a fantastic deal - on condition they totally boycott China in all things, starting with Huawei
(10) Boris, having had a re-lapse rather than a pro-lapse - instantly agrees
(11) We’re all eating Chicken washed with Dettol this Christmas, as “Chlorine” got banned meanwhile.
(12) Supermarkets, Royal Mail, and Unilever - go bust
(13) We get paid in January to take pallets of Domestos away - nowhere to store them.
(14) Critics get told off for telling people to “stick it up your arse” with the Left Media explaining that “Dettol should not be used internally”.
(15) David Ike is proven to be correct all along
(16) Men in Black disguised as Lizards - assassinate Ike with a microwave gun causing his heart to seize - 8th time lucky, or so they think… It took a lot more effort to get rid of his successor.
(17) Icke laughs and says "You shot the ex-president instead of me, you idiots with your time machine back to 28th March 1969 !!"
(18) Icke takes over from Keir Starmer at Labour
(19) Labour go on to still lose the next election, despite Boris coming out as “Liberal” in the meantime…
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Winseer:
The next cards being played are

(1) America accuses China
(2) China ‘admits’ it has found a rogue Chinese citizen who took a bribe of a million to start this disease in the wet market via the use of a contaminated specimen from Wuhan Labs. China has already sent said citizen “To the Quarry”…
(3) America now stands accused - they cannot prove they didn’t put that million in dead woman’s account…
(4) Trump gets blamed
(5) Biden runs on “Anyone but Trump” ticket
(6) We all wake up
(7) An Australian investigation digs the real dirt
(8) Trump unexpectedly hangs on, despite Biden winning the popular vote by a larger margin than Hitlary did in 2016
(9) Trump offers the UK a fantastic deal - on condition they totally boycott China in all things, starting with Huawei
(10) Boris, having had a re-lapse rather than a pro-lapse - instantly agrees
(11) We’re all eating Chicken washed with Dettol this Christmas, as “Chlorine” got banned meanwhile.
(12) Supermarkets, Royal Mail, and Unilever - go bust
(13) We get paid in January to take pallets of Domestos away - nowhere to store them.
(14) Critics get told off for telling people to “stick it up your arse” with the Left Media explaining that “Dettol should not be used internally”.
(15) David Ike is proven to be correct all along
(16) Men in Black disguised as Lizards - assassinate Ike with a microwave gun causing his heart to seize - 8th time lucky, or so they think… It took a lot more effort to get rid of his successor.
(17) Icke laughs and says "You shot the ex-president instead of me, you idiots with your time machine back to 28th March 1969 !!"
(18) Icke takes over from Keir Starmer at Labour
(19) Labour go on to still lose the next election, despite Boris coming out as “Liberal” in the meantime…
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Australian component?? Wochaonabart Winseerdamus? :confused:

Government announces plans to get Britain back to work.

Harry Monk:
Government announces plans to get Britain back to work.

Ooh, that’s gonna go H. Apparently that sort of stuff is offensive in this brave new world.

(Click the picture…)

the maoster:

Harry Monk:
Government announces plans to get Britain back to work.

Ooh, that’s gonna go H. Apparently that sort of stuff is offensive in this brave new world.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
surely thats more offensive than the 3 words from yesterday…shocking,beggars belief,something mist be done,lessons must be learner…harrumph,harrumph…
.though possibly itl be fine as theres really nothing wrong with it seeing as how one of the opposing team that dance at the other end of the ballroom wont jump on it to complain and score a small victory.
bring it on harry boy. :smiley:

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Nowt wrong with a bit of black humour I reckon however touchy the subject, because that is only what it is…‘‘Humour’’ :bulb:
It’s when maliciousness creeps in that it becomes a problem. :bulb:

the maoster:

Harry Monk:
Government announces plans to get Britain back to work.

Ooh, that’s gonna go H. Apparently that sort of stuff is offensive in this brave new world.

It’s meant to say Make Germany great again but got lost in the translation. :smiling_imp: :laughing: