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Found this today will get some of the uninsured idiots off the road

Link : Vehicle insurance: Uninsured vehicles - GOV.UK

Stay insured: new penalties for motor vehicles without insurance
The new vehicle insurance law means that the registered keeper of a vehicle must keep it insured unless they’ve made a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN). If you’re not insured and haven’t made a SORN, you could face a penalty. Find out what the change in the law means for you.
If you’re the registered keeper of a vehicle, it must be insured at all times.
The exceptions are:

  • if you have made a SORN for the vehicle
  • if your vehicle has been kept off-road since before SORN came into force on 31 January 1998 — unless it was brought back into use
  • if your vehicle is recorded as stolen, passed or sold to the motor trade or between registered keepers
  • if your vehicle is recorded scrapped or permanently exported by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing (DVLA)
    What will happen if your vehicle doesn’t have insurance
    From the end of June 2011 Insurance Advisory Letters (IAL) will be issued by the Motor Insurers’ Bureau to the registered keepers of uninsured vehicles. This will be following a check of the Motor Insurance Database (MID) - the UK’s central record of vehicle insurance. The IAL will advise the registered keeper that their vehicle appears to have no insurance and what actions to take to avoid receiving a fixed penalty from DVLA.
    If a vehicle does not have insurance, the registered keeper could:
  • receive a fixed penalty of £100
  • have their vehicle wheel-clamped, impounded, or destroyed
  • face a court prosecution, with a possible maximum fine of £1000
    Payment of a penalty does not replace the need for motor insurance.
    How to avoid a penalty
    The details of all insured vehicles should be on the MID. You can check that your motor insurance details are on the database and are correct by following the link below.
    If the details aren’t correct, or are not on the database, you should contact your insurer immediately. Only your insurer can update the MID’s information.
    If not already insured:
  • insure your vehicle immediately
  • make a SORN, if the vehicle is not used on the road
  • notify DVLA if you are no longer the registered keeper
    Failure to take one of these actions will result in a £100 penalty.
    The change in the law means, you will only be able to take your vehicle off the road and cancel your insurance by returning your tax disc to DVLA.
    It must be returned on a V14 (application form for a refund of a tax disc) and SORN declared at the same time.
    How does this law affect a vehicle used only in the summer?
    If you have a vehicle that is still taxed but not insured, you could face a penalty. This includes vintage and classic cars, motorbikes and motor homes — all vehicles that people sometimes leave uninsured for part of the year. If this applies to you, you need to return the tax disc on a V14 (including nil value discs) and declare SORN at the same time.
    Are vintage/classic cars affected?
    If you have a vehicle that was manufactured before 1 January 1973 that has a ‘nil value tax disc’ it is still considered by DVLA as taxed. If your vehicle is taxed it therefore must be insured unless you return your tax disc on a V14 and declare SORN at the same time.
    How does this affect pre-SORN vehicles?
    Vehicles which have been kept off-road since before SORN came into force on 31 January 1998 are exempt from this law. If they are brought back into use they will no longer be exempt. If you want to bring the vehicle back into use, you will need to tax and insure it. Follow the link below to do this.
    What if you have a personalised registration on your vehicle?
    You should inform your insurance company if you change the registration number of your vehicle. If you do not you could receive an Insurance Advisory Letter (IAL) to say your vehicle is shown as uninsured.
    Why would someone receive a letter about a vehicle they no longer have?
    When the vehicle record was compared to the MID, they were shown as the registered keeper. This is why the letter was issued. The IAL will explain what action needs to be taken to notify change of keeper. Follow the links below if you no longer have the vehicle.
    What if I am moving abroad and taking my vehicle?
    If the vehicle will be abroad for less than six months your vehicle is still subject to UK motoring laws and would need to be insured.
    If permanently moving abroad, follow the link below for further details.
    Does this change affect the Off Road Register?
    Off road bikes and construction machinery on the Off Road Register are not affected by the change in the law. If they are later registered for use on the public road they will be affected by the change.
    Where does the new law apply?
    The new law will apply in England, Scotland and Wales. It will not apply in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man

there was a thread about this a little while ago where somoen was complaining it wasn’t fair and a tax on the working man and that sort of ■■■■■■■■ because now when he can’t afford to insure his car, and doesn’t have off road parking, he won’t be able to leave it parked on the road outside his house uninsured. Bit of a strange complaint considering he couldn’t do that before this law change anyway. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

Coffeeholic:
there was a thread about this a little while ago where somoen was complaining it wasn’t fair and a tax on the working man and that sort of ■■■■■■■■ because now when he can’t afford to insure his car, and doesn’t have off road parking, he won’t be able to leave it parked on the road outside his house uninsured. Bit of a strange complaint considering he couldn’t do that before this law change anyway. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

Ah, but shoe on the other foot an all that, if my car is parked/kept off road or even in a garage this new ballox will still apply which i think is wrong, if my motor is not on a public road it has sweet (zb) to do with the dvla if i have insurance or not as ,it is not a legal requirement as long as i don’t use it park it on the public road, so to make those who simply decide not to use their car for 6 months of the year sign a declaration just to keep the (zb) at dvla happy , if think is ill thought out, more red tape to keep some (zb) in a job at the dvla

I was talking to a kid a while back, he was typical student sort, short on cash etc. He had a car and would park it off road, but only insured it when he needed it. He would insure it for a couple of days at a time. This will knacker him up for doing that, or he will need to keep sending a SORN every other week! Just as a side note, my daughter turned 17 this week, I thought I’ll get her insured and get the L plates out. Tried to get her put on the Landrover insurance, company who I’m with wouldn’t even entertain the idea. So, tried putting her on my wifes Ford Fiesta, no problems they say, that will be £204, thought thats a bit steep but go on then. It later turned out it was £204 a month :open_mouth: £2448 to insure a fiesta, legalised robbery the twisting Ba Stards.

Fileep:
my daughter turned 17 this week, I thought I’ll get her insured and get the L plates out…tried putting her on my wifes Ford Fiesta, no problems they say, that will be £204, thought thats a bit steep but go on then. It later turned out it was £204 a month :open_mouth: £2448 to insure a fiesta, legalised robbery the twisting Ba Stards.

yep wait till she passes her test. i’m paying 2k a year to insure mine.

More ■■■■■■■■ to keep abreast of.

For those who are unaware, SORN is not transferable between owners, so if someone buys a car that the previous owner has SORN’ed, the new owner must also himself declare it SORN’ed, if for example he decides not to tax or insure it until a new month starts.

The Biker:
Found this today will get some of the uninsured idiots off the road

You’re incredibly naive if you truly believe that.

tommy t:

Coffeeholic:
there was a thread about this a little while ago where somoen was complaining it wasn’t fair and a tax on the working man and that sort of ■■■■■■■■ because now when he can’t afford to insure his car, and doesn’t have off road parking, he won’t be able to leave it parked on the road outside his house uninsured. Bit of a strange complaint considering he couldn’t do that before this law change anyway. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

Ah, but shoe on the other foot an all that, if my car is parked/kept off road or even in a garage this new ballox will still apply which i think is wrong, if my motor is not on a public road it has sweet (zb) to do with the dvla if i have insurance or not as ,it is not a legal requirement as long as i don’t use it park it on the public road, so to make those who simply decide not to use their car for 6 months of the year sign a declaration just to keep the (zb) at dvla happy , if think is ill thought out, more red tape to keep some (zb) in a job at the dvla

Also, motorbike tax is so cheap (£15 / year for upto a 125, 30 upto a 250 and so on upto 70ish for any bike over 600cc) that it’s not worth cashing in, so sometimes I let my insurance expire, and leave it till the weather improves and then re-insure it, now I’ve got to sorn it, losing a months tax and then probably won’t be the 1st of the month when I decide to re-insure it and lose another few weeks tax…

It’s a con as usual. Get rid of cameras, get police, that’ll get the uninsured idiots off the road.

Too many cameras now mean if you want to drive illegally, you just use someone elses number plates - you can get these at your local asda / tossco etc - as you’re very unlikely to ever get pulled.