Thur 5 July 15:00 Calgary time just been on are local news, The Driver has been arrested by the RCMP Numerous charges of which some are 16 counts of Dangerous operations of a Motor Vehicle causing death, 13 counts of Dangerous operations of a Motor Vehicle causing injury
kyk:
newmercman:
… similar crashes happen every day in every country, the circumstances surrounding this one are the big story, an immigrant driver …Shouldn’t there be an IQ or drug test before obtaining some rights of power within this forum…?
When I wrote truth about Canadian trucking and Middle Eastern / [zb] / Indi mafia in Canada my opinion here was censored…
Placing dumb people at power and allowing them to alter truth is big part of the reason why things as this happen…
It’s not your opinion that gets censored, it’s the way you put your views across that get you censored. In this post you have suggested that I have a low IQ and that I am on drugs.
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The Calgary truck driver who was charged last week in connection to a deadly crash involving the Humboldt Broncos team bus made his first appearance in a Saskatchewan court on Tuesday.
Jaskirat Sidhu, 29, is charged with 16 counts of dangerous driving causing death and 13 counts of dangerous driving causing bodily injury in the April 6 crash.
The hockey team was on its way to a playoff game in Nipawan when their bus was involved in a collision with a transport truck at a highway intersection. The crash killed 16 people and injured 13 others.
During the three-month investigation, police took over 6000 photographs and used 3D technology to gather evidence from the scene.
Sidhu was not injured in the crash and was arrested in Calgary last Friday.
The truck he was driving belongs to Calgary-based Adesh Deol Trucking Limited.
Sidhu appeared in court in Melfort, Saskatchewan on Tuesday morning and was released on $1000 bail. He faces several conditions and also surrendered his passport.
The case has now been put over to August 21.
The Alberta government is looking at mandatory driver training requirements for commercial trucks and on Tuesday will begin consultations for new safety regulations.
maybe they should introduce a DCPC…that ought to stop it…r.i.p. to all who lost their lives…and condolences to their families.
Well the final result was 8 years in gaol and deportation on release. He pleaded guilty and at all times took responsability without excuse apparently.
To those Canadians who lament the fact that he may be out in 4 years, perhaps they can take comfort in the fact that he will be off the tax bill and out of the country to do no further damage there sooner rather than later.
Spardo:
Well the final result was 8 years in gaol and deportation on release. He pleaded guilty and at all times took responsability without excuse apparently.To those Canadians who lament the fact that he may be out in 4 years, perhaps they can take comfort in the fact that he will be off the tax bill and out of the country to do no further damage there sooner rather than later.
Also the federal govt is going to implement mandatory minimum training for all new drivers too, it varies from province to province but here in alberta it’s the MELT programme (mandatory entry level training) which takes 113 hours to do and can cost anything up to $10,000.
Scraggy88:
Also the federal govt is going to implement mandatory minimum training for all new drivers too, it varies from province to province but here in alberta it’s the MELT programme (mandatory entry level training) which takes 113 hours to do and can cost anything up to $10,000.
Makes sense, but for me a good job that the UK didn’t do that when I started. I have never taken a test in Europe or even in Australia to drive A-triples. 
Spardo:
Scraggy88:
Also the federal govt is going to implement mandatory minimum training for all new drivers too, it varies from province to province but here in alberta it’s the MELT programme (mandatory entry level training) which takes 113 hours to do and can cost anything up to $10,000.Makes sense, but for me a good job that the UK didn’t do that when I started. I have never taken a test in Europe or even in Australia to drive A-triples.
Oh I got screwed when I arrived here, surrendered my UK licence with cat b as well as ce and de (cost me about £5000 to get) and only got a class 5 Canadian (car only) so had to redo all my class 1 as well as air brakes 
glad I brought an extra copy of my UK licence though so at least if I do go back then I dont have to fight DVLA to get my classes back. Glad I took my test when I did though, only cost me about $2000 instead of up to $10,500 it would cost now! Only need to take a test to pull a turnpike I think (2 - 53foot trailers)
Scraggy88:
Spardo:
Scraggy88:
Also the federal govt is going to implement mandatory minimum training for all new drivers too, it varies from province to province but here in alberta it’s the MELT programme (mandatory entry level training) which takes 113 hours to do and can cost anything up to $10,000.Makes sense, but for me a good job that the UK didn’t do that when I started. I have never taken a test in Europe or even in Australia to drive A-triples.
Oh I got screwed when I arrived here, surrendered my UK licence with cat b as well as ce and de (cost me about £5000 to get) and only got a class 5 Canadian (car only) so had to redo all my class 1 as well as air brakes
Yes these cross border licencings can be a pain. When I came here, although it was not necessary to change my UK licence, for a car, for a semi I needed to change. They were supposed to send my UK one back to Swansea. 15 or 16 years later I was driving in Cornwall and at 4 in the morning was stopped by the police. They checked with their computer and said I didn’t have a licence. Yes I have, I said, you’ve got it in your hand. They wouldn’t accept that and said a French licence wasn’t valid as I had never surrendered my UK one, and, because I hadn’t renewed that when I reached 70, I wasn’t licenced. Because at that time of night they couldn’t contact Swansea they let me go. I got it sorted by email to Swansea later who said that the French had never sent my UK one back to them for cancellation.
As far as Oz went, I was allowed to drive road trains after I showed my UK HGV licence to the authorities in the Northern Territory. I drove cross border into Western Australia from time to time but never to another state, so don’t know what would have happened there. In Sydney I applied for a NSW truck licence but was told that they couldn’t accept my UK or NT licences as proof because neither actually used the words ‘semi-trailer’ , in fact all the NT licence said was ‘lorries’. 
I didn’t bother because I couldn’t get a job there anyway so went to Queensland where, although I never drove semis or trains, was allowed to drive unhindered on the licences I had. 
It’s all a big con man. . . Understandable when it’s someone from some Arabic country (no racism intended) where they all drive banged up cars like it’s a destruction derby (as seen on TV) or the other vehicle is. . . A camel! . . Absolutely they should have to take a test but folks who live in a more “civilized” country will have a general idea and understanding of the rules of the road so should just be advised to brush up on the variants of road law. Was gonna try and move to Australia if I had no luck in Canada, glad I got here though as everything wants a piece of you down under it seems, even the weather, going by stereotypes of course
Scraggy88:
It’s all a big con man. . . Understandable when it’s someone from some Arabic country (no racism intended) where they all drive banged up cars like it’s a destruction derby (as seen on TV) or the other vehicle is. . . A camel! . . Absolutely they should have to take a test but folks who live in a more “civilized” country will have a general idea and understanding of the rules of the road so should just be advised to brush up on the variants of road law. Was gonna try and move to Australia if I had no luck in Canada, glad I got here though as everything wants a piece of you down under it seems, even the weather, going by stereotypes of course
Funny thing is, I would have loved to go to Canada because at the time (1960s) I thought Australia was too far away from everywhere else, but in the end chose Oz because I thought Canada was too cold. I prefer the heat. 
Of course I didn’t take into account all the wildlife that seems to want to eat you. Spiders, snakes, scorpions, crocs and flies. Yes flies, if only the rest of the world wanted them they would be Australia’s biggest export, and after experiencing all of the above, it was only a fly that injured me. It bit me on the leg and, young and macho as I was (but also rarely in shouting distance of medical assistance) I ignored it until it became a massive scab at least 10 cms in circumference. At that point I decided I ought to do something about it but, before I could, it dropped off and left no trace visible to this day.
Yikes, I have a hard time with those little mosquitoe things that like to snack on you on the hot days. . . Fair play to you though! Does get cold here, first place I drove a truck was running the ice roads up in the northwest territories running out of yellowknife, only been in Canada for like 3 months and got both my ears frost bitten. Got lucky and kept them but stuck with permanent cell damage for life now and more prone to freezinf and found a new appreciation for the stream weather. Had another rough winter up there this year, minus 50 with the windchill! . . Just keep fighting the good fight hey and e joy life, that’s what I’m trying to do!
Yes, I’ll go with that and, providing Brexit doesn’t force me out I’ll anchor here for the rest of it. It suits me fine.
I live on a hill, shielded by trees from the north and the east in a little micro climate that is never below -10C in winter or above +40C in summer. If snow falls and settles it rarely stays more than 24 hours.
Scraggy88:
Understandable when it’s someone from some Arabic country (no racism intended) where they all drive banged up cars like it’s a destruction derby (as seen on TV) or the other vehicle is. . . A camel! . . Absolutely they should have to take a test but folks who live in a more “civilized” country will have a general idea and understanding of the rules of the road so should just be advised to brush up on the variants of road law.
Absolutely wrong!
If there are no rules then it takes much more awareness and skill to avoid all the others. When everyone around you obeys rules it`s so much easier to fit in!
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Franglais:
Scraggy88:
Understandable when it’s someone from some Arabic country (no racism intended) where they all drive banged up cars like it’s a destruction derby (as seen on TV) or the other vehicle is. . . A camel! . . Absolutely they should have to take a test but folks who live in a more “civilized” country will have a general idea and understanding of the rules of the road so should just be advised to brush up on the variants of road law.Absolutely wrong!
If there are no rules then it takes much more awareness and skill to avoid all the others. When everyone around you obeys rules it`s so much easier to fit in!
;-
I am tempted to agree with you, Franglais, having seen the toal mayhem that is an Indian street scene, but have you researched the actual statistics of death and serious injury per head of population in that country?
I haven’t, but just wondering.
Spardo:
Franglais:
Scraggy88:
Understandable when it’s someone from some Arabic country (no racism intended) where they all drive banged up cars like it’s a destruction derby (as seen on TV) or the other vehicle is. . . A camel! . . Absolutely they should have to take a test but folks who live in a more “civilized” country will have a general idea and understanding of the rules of the road so should just be advised to brush up on the variants of road law.Absolutely wrong!
If there are no rules then it takes much more awareness and skill to avoid all the others. When everyone around you obeys rules it`s so much easier to fit in!
;-I am tempted to agree with you, Franglais, having seen the toal mayhem that is an Indian street scene, but have you researched the actual statistics of death and serious injury per head of population in that country?
I haven’t, but just wondering.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek. Although my point has some truth to it.
For those who want the figures:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c … death_rate
Europe is much safer than most anywhere else. Some countries more so than others, but we have safe roads, and much of that must be due to rules and us following them.
But I reckon we can agree that different countries have differing
The chaps from India have an inbred chaos in them, I saw, more accurately heard one drop a trailer full of lumber on its knees on Thursday, within a minute there was a gang of them them there shouting and hollering and waving there arms around. They have the same mentality at a busy loading dock, all trying to back into a door at the same time, blasting their air horns and generally turning the whole process into a gong show. A bit like Italy on LSD.
The point of this is that this chaos ends up on the roads too, the Euro imports to Canada have to have provable lorry driving experience before coming to Canada and have to have a Class one license to surrender. The same does not apply to the Indians. That is the big problem, we come here for a change of scenery and the adventure, they come here for different reasons and driving a lorry is easy to get into because of the driver shortage, so it’s the go to choice of career.
However that mentality of chaos remains rooted in their brains and all the training in the world will never change that. The only way to deal with it is through much stricter enforcement of the law and harsher penalties for those that do not conform
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newmercman:
The point of this is that this chaos ends up on the roads too, the Euro imports to Canada have to have provable lorry driving experience before coming to Canada and have to have a Class one license to surrender. The same does not apply to the Indians.
This sounds just a bit like race discrimination, not yours, the authorities, if there is a lower standard applied to the Indians. I expect that increases feelings of racism in the opposite direction. Not a good plan really.
And to Franglais. I knew I could rely on you to back me up without having to get my Googling finger into motion. Thanks.
But the Indians don’t come out of it too badly, in comparison.
Not discriminating really, we come here as skilled workers, they mostly use a different scheme to get into Canada, possibly taking advantage of the system due to the absence of record keeping in their homeland, but whatever. They then become truck drivers instead of factory/shop/etc workers. We all have to take the same tests, which are a piece of ■■■■ TBH.
There are rumours that they have cheated that as the ability to speak English or French is necessary to do the theory part, including the practical tests on air brakes and pre trips, indeed the prosecution of some and the revocation of their licenses means it’s not just a rumour, but you do have to be careful on this subject as the race card is very powerful.
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Spardo:
newmercman:
The point of this is that this chaos ends up on the roads too, the Euro imports to Canada have to have provable lorry driving experience before coming to Canada and have to have a Class one license to surrender. The same does not apply to the Indians.This sounds just a bit like race discrimination, not yours, the authorities, if there is a lower standard applied to the Indians. I expect that increases feelings of racism in the opposite direction. Not a good plan really.
And to Franglais. I knew I could rely on you to back me up without having to get my Googling finger into motion.
But the Indians don’t come out of it too badly, in comparison.
Look again at India, Spardo. Not a lot of deaths by population, but a huge number by ratio to vehicles. Must be that much of the country has no interaction with vehicles? I bet the stats for an Indian city would be very bad.
What I found a bit surprising (I`ve never been there) was that the USA seems worse, or at least as bad as, Eastern European countries.
Canada seems comparable with Western Europe from those figures.