So what if you see an insecure load then?
You can’t grass him to the police, so the load could fall off and cause an accident, that you could have prevented by calling the police
robroy:
Which is why I KEEP saying again, again …and again on this subject, for people who can not grasp it (or for the dumb ones like Conor
) I’m referring to the thread subject…everyday traffic offences!!!
Using a mobile phone whilst driving is about as an everyday traffic offence as you can get other than speeding, one of the reasons the penalties were increased again is because of how prevalent it is. Why are you trying to claim that mobile phone use when driving isn’t an everyday traffic offence? Is it because the number of accidents from using mobile phones when driving that have resulted in deaths and serious injuries destroy the point of view you’re trying to put across that everyday traffic offences cause no harm?
Sploom:
So what if you see an insecure load then?
You can’t grass him to the police, so the load could fall off and cause an accident, that you could have prevented by calling the police
What if, What if, …what if an insecure load was an ‘‘EVERY DAY TRAFFIC INCIDENT’’ like pulling out, cutting up etc 
(getting a strange feeling of deja vu here btw)
Well then it might apply to the core subject of this thread eh?
Sploom:
So what if you see an insecure load then?
You can’t grass him to the police, so the load could fall off and cause an accident, that you could have prevented by calling the police
In these days of the interweb it’s not too difficult to find a haulage CO’s phone number (you WILL be stationary in traffic sooner or later in broken Britain) it’s then relatively easy to bring the insecure load to their attention and let them contact their driver. Win win really for everybody.
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
Conor:
robroy:
Which is why I KEEP saying again, again …and again on this subjectUsing a mobile phone whilst driving is about as an everyday traffic offence as you can get other than speeding, one of the reasons the penalties were increased again is because of how prevalent it is. Why are you trying to claim that mobile phone use when driving isn’t an everyday traffic offence? Is it because the number of accidents from using mobile phones when driving that have resulted in deaths and serious injuries destroy the point of view you’re trying to put across that everyday traffic offences cause no harm?
‘‘Christ Conor I knew you were dumb but didn’t realise how dumb you can be’’
You know exactly my point, I was originally referring to drivers reporting other drivers for mundane everyday events…as you well know.
If you want to cherry pick more serious offences to make a point, how far do we go with it?
Death by dangerous driving?
Oh yeh, I forgot, you already have.
Point is it’s a bit ■■■■ poor and pathetic drivers reporting others for things you should just let go of and move on.
You know exactly the point I’m trying to put across, or are you just being deliberately argumentative and beligerant for the hell of it…that is not like you at all btw.
Conor:
robroy:
Which is why I KEEP saying again, again …and again on this subjectUsing a mobile phone whilst driving is about as an everyday traffic offence as you can get other than speeding, one of the reasons the penalties were increased again is because of how prevalent it is. Why are you trying to claim that mobile phone use when driving isn’t an everyday traffic offence? Is it because the number of accidents from using mobile phones when driving that have resulted in deaths and serious injuries destroy the point of view you’re trying to put across that everyday traffic offences cause no harm?
If holding the phone is such a problem, then why isn’t it compulsory yet for vehicle manufacturers to fit phone holsters and Bluetooth devices? That solves the problem (or at least part of the problem) at source without criminalising anyone.
Rjan:
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
At last somebody gets it. 
youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c
robroy:
Rjan:
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
At last somebody gets it.
youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c
I agree and wouldn’t report someone for some minor stuff, but if it’s dangerous I would and have. I did once report a truck driver to his company and sent them footage because he was almost touching my back bumper and would have crushed me if I’d stopped. Does that make me sad and have nothing better to do? If it does fine. Do I care if he lost his job? Well actually no not really because if he’s going that close up behind a car to be a bully to a point where it’s dangerous then he shouldn’t be driving a truck so if He got sacked then I’ve done my bit and potentially saved someone from being killed by him in the future. It has to be dangerous for me to take action, I’m not out to send in dash cam footage for simple mistakes or minor disregard for the Highway Code. But if someone’s driving really does qualify as dangerous then yes I think if we’ve got evidence of it we should all be taking steps to get them banned of our roads. Before someone tells me that yeah but people make mistakes, no to qualify as dangerous in law the standard of the driving goes way way way beyond what could be seen as a mistake. So in my case above with that driver behind me, if he’d made a mistake and backed off then fine, no problem. If he’d made a mistake and backed off within about 10 seconds after realising he was too close then fine. But when he’s that close for about 2 miles when I’m doing just over the speed limit (which was temporary road works speed limit) then that’s no mistake anymore. That’s dangerous and him having a total disregard for Highway Code (following distance) and disregard for the safety of any occupants of that car.
DickyNick:
robroy:
Rjan:
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
At last somebody gets it.
youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c
I agree and wouldn’t report someone for some minor stuff, but if it’s dangerous I would and have. I did once report a truck driver to his company and sent them footage because he was almost touching my back bumper and would have crushed me if I’d stopped. Does that make me sad and have nothing better to do? If it does fine. Do I care if he lost his job? Well actually no not really because if he’s going that close up behind a car to be a bully to a point where it’s dangerous then he shouldn’t be driving a truck so if He got sacked then I’ve done my bit and potentially saved someone from being killed by him in the future. It has to be dangerous for me to take action, I’m not out to send in dash cam footage for simple mistakes or minor disregard for the Highway Code. But if someone’s driving really does qualify as dangerous then yes I think if we’ve got evidence of it we should all be taking steps to get them banned of our roads. Before someone tells me that yeah but people make mistakes, no to qualify as dangerous in law the standard of the driving goes way way way beyond what could be seen as a mistake. So in my case above with that driver behind me, if he’d made a mistake and backed off then fine, no problem. If he’d made a mistake and backed off within about 10 seconds after realising he was too close then fine. But when he’s that close for about 2 miles when I’m doing just over the speed limit (which was temporary road works speed limit) then that’s no mistake anymore. That’s dangerous and him having a total disregard for Highway Code (following distance) and disregard for the safety of any occupants of that car.
Ok, but difference between what you did and what I would do is this.
I aint advocating road rage either btw…, but rightly or wrongly…I don’t care.
I would have (safely) got him to stop, ask him in no uncertain terms wtf he was playing at or trying to prove, and if I still got a lot of gob off him, and he’d ■■■■■■ me off enough…then TELL him I was going to inform his guvnor.
If I’m coming across as a bit of a macho bravado mouthpiece on this I apologise, but anybody who actually knows me would vouch that I WOULD actually do that.
DickyNick:
robroy:
Rjan:
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
At last somebody gets it.
youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c
I agree and wouldn’t report someone for some minor stuff, but if it’s dangerous I would and have. I did once report a truck driver to his company and sent them footage because he was almost touching my back bumper and would have crushed me if I’d stopped. Does that make me sad and have nothing better to do? If it does fine. Do I care if he lost his job? Well actually no not really because if he’s going that close up behind a car to be a bully to a point where it’s dangerous then he shouldn’t be driving a truck so if He got sacked then I’ve done my bit and potentially saved someone from being killed by him in the future. It has to be dangerous for me to take action, I’m not out to send in dash cam footage for simple mistakes or minor disregard for the Highway Code. But if someone’s driving really does qualify as dangerous then yes I think if we’ve got evidence of it we should all be taking steps to get them banned of our roads. Before someone tells me that yeah but people make mistakes, no to qualify as dangerous in law the standard of the driving goes way way way beyond what could be seen as a mistake. So in my case above with that driver behind me, if he’d made a mistake and backed off then fine, no problem. If he’d made a mistake and backed off within about 10 seconds after realising he was too close then fine. But when he’s that close for about 2 miles when I’m doing just over the speed limit (which was temporary road works speed limit) then that’s no mistake anymore. That’s dangerous and him having a total disregard for Highway Code (following distance) and disregard for the safety of any occupants of that car.
Simple solution to that situation would have been to ease off and pull over yourself, either to remonstrate or simply allow the truck to pass. Your problem is then solved and any danger relieved.
I’ve let tailgaters pass in the past - I regularly do it where I feel someone is persistently just a little too close - but I’ve never had anyone simply come up behind me immediately with only inches to spare and stay there. I’ve certainly never been in a situation where I felt unable to stop on account of being tailgated.
When I observe that occur with others, it is usually the final stage of getting progressively closer in which the person being tailgated has failed to take a hint about their excessively low speed, or else give way. The solution to the danger of tailgating is always to slow down and give way.
In my experience also, the act of pulling over in many cases brings the tailgater to a stop, either because they didn’t actually realise they were tailgating and thus weren’t prepared to pass (I’ve actually been a passenger in a car with a driver who tailgated habitually and who responded in this fashion), or because the road is so narrow that they have to wait for an opportunity to go around me.
And speaking on the other side of the equation, for the worst slow-pokes, it is sometimes worth coming to a stop simply so that you can then escape from their unreasonable trundling and unexpected behaviours which impose a constant mental demand to monitor and manage, but for the bully who is trying to force unreasonable progress against the majority of all drivers, the difficulty of keep having to stop and overtake will likely encourage them to go with the flow, and it does that without prolonging dangerous situations and without any one person trying to act as policeman.
Ok, I take it back, maybe just letting him overtake would have been a more sensible option with less grief. 
Rob - unless I’ve got a blue flashing light on my car how would you suggest I got him to stop? When if I’d touched the brakes he may have hit me?
Rjan - I wouldn’t do that until I’ve least got footage to send to his boss. Sorry you ain’t driving like that near me and not getting reported either to your boss or the police.
Drempels:
Last night, on my way home, I was on a country road. Entering a village, I slowed to the 30 limit. I looked in the mirror, and saw a car approaching at about 90. A bit of background here, I spent my teens growing up on inner London backstreets, my “this ain’t right” radar is pretty well developed. I’m also an ex-racer, bicycles, 250s, clubman rallying, hillclimbing and bangers. Anyway, matey comes tearing past me, up to a T junction, and just about gets her turned. I look in the mirror again, and there’s a second car, roughly twelve seconds behind the first one. I’m indicating right, he starts flashing like mad as I get to the junction. At this second, I get a flashback, in true 80s movie style, of a rival banger racer overtaking me, and I think “I’m gonna turn this prick”.Sanity prevails (for me) matey, nearly loses it, but gets around in hot pursuit of car 1. It then dawns on me that it’s not a race, it’s a chase. I turn right, and carry on. About thirty seconds later, car 1 re-appears in my mirror, doing about the ton, as I’m approaching a narrow bridge, on a 90 left in, 90 right out. He locks her up and passes me on the bridge (blind). Car two duly appears having lost about eight seconds since the last encounter, passes me, and a few more cars, then disappears into the distance. This wasn’t boy racers having a bit of fun, this was a serious pursuit, based on love or money, in my opinion.
What would my fellow Truckneters have done, would you have called the cops?
Nah mate. Just press the cannon button (the one with the Arsenal logo on it) down would swivel the bumper to reveal a pair of 88mm then blast away with the false horn button a la James Bond and send them to Isis paradise.
For those below the age of about 55 you won’t know what the hell I am on about.
Mind sometimes the revolving number plate would be useful. 
Sand Fisher:
Drempels:
Last night, on my way home, I was on a country road. Entering a village, I slowed to the 30 limit. I looked in the mirror, and saw a car approaching at about 90. A bit of background here, I spent my teens growing up on inner London backstreets, my “this ain’t right” radar is pretty well developed. I’m also an ex-racer, bicycles, 250s, clubman rallying, hillclimbing and bangers. Anyway, matey comes tearing past me, up to a T junction, and just about gets her turned. I look in the mirror again, and there’s a second car, roughly twelve seconds behind the first one. I’m indicating right, he starts flashing like mad as I get to the junction. At this second, I get a flashback, in true 80s movie style, of a rival banger racer overtaking me, and I think “I’m gonna turn this prick”.Sanity prevails (for me) matey, nearly loses it, but gets around in hot pursuit of car 1. It then dawns on me that it’s not a race, it’s a chase. I turn right, and carry on. About thirty seconds later, car 1 re-appears in my mirror, doing about the ton, as I’m approaching a narrow bridge, on a 90 left in, 90 right out. He locks her up and passes me on the bridge (blind). Car two duly appears having lost about eight seconds since the last encounter, passes me, and a few more cars, then disappears into the distance. This wasn’t boy racers having a bit of fun, this was a serious pursuit, based on love or money, in my opinion.
What would my fellow Truckneters have done, would you have called the cops?
Nah mate. Just press the cannon button (the one with the Arsenal logo on it) down would swivel the bumper to reveal a pair of 88mm then blast away with the false horn button a la James Bond and send them to Isis paradise.
For those below the age of about 55 you won’t know what the hell I am on about.
Mind sometimes the revolving number plate would be useful.
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easy enough to obtain my good man??
google is once again your friend.
no doubt dickthenick and roadrat will be spluttering out their mouthfull of cornflakes in indignation at this one…
youtube.com/watch?v=RklCBO8F1oE
DickyNick:
robroy:
Rjan:
sammym:
That will teach me for not really reading most of it and just spewing what comes into my head.I agree with RobRoy - anyone sad enough to go out of their way to get someone into trouble (and potentially make them lose their livelihoods) over something as pathetic as a nothing incident is pond life. Sometimes people make mistakes - and sometimes rules are ignored for a load of reasons. Live and let live.
I also agree with Robroy. There’s a difference between helping the police track down criminals, and complaining about every misjudgment or deviation from the highway code to the point that we are all tyrannised by controls and informants.
At last somebody gets it.
youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c
I agree and wouldn’t report someone for some minor stuff, but if it’s dangerous I would and have. I did once report a truck driver to his company and sent them footage because he was almost touching my back bumper and would have crushed me if I’d stopped. Does that make me sad and have nothing better to do? If it does fine. Do I care if he lost his job? Well actually no not really because if he’s going that close up behind a car to be a bully to a point where it’s dangerous then he shouldn’t be driving a truck so if He got sacked then I’ve done my bit and potentially saved someone from being killed by him in the future. It has to be dangerous for me to take action, I’m not out to send in dash cam footage for simple mistakes or minor disregard for the Highway Code. But if someone’s driving really does qualify as dangerous then yes I think if we’ve got evidence of it we should all be taking steps to get them banned of our roads. Before someone tells me that yeah but people make mistakes, no to qualify as dangerous in law the standard of the driving goes way way way beyond what could be seen as a mistake. So in my case above with that driver behind me, if he’d made a mistake and backed off then fine, no problem. If he’d made a mistake and backed off within about 10 seconds after realising he was too close then fine. But when he’s that close for about 2 miles when I’m doing just over the speed limit (which was temporary road works speed limit) then that’s no mistake anymore. That’s dangerous and him having a total disregard for Highway Code (following distance) and disregard for the safety of any occupants of that car.
So it’s perfectly fine for you to speed, which is an offence, but everyone else must not do anything that you, whoever you are to judge, deem as dangerous is to be reported and sacked?
Would love you to phone my boss, so you can be told to f[zb]k off and mind your own business.
My indicated speed was 2mph over the limit which would mean I was probably bang on the limit. That’s hardly dangerous is it compared to a truck that cant stop. But of course no that’s my fault.
If your boss give me that attitude then it would go to the police straight away.
You haven’t seen the footage of how close he was. It wasn’t just me deeming it as dangerous, it was black and white it WAS dangerous.
DickyNick:
My indicated speed was 2mph over the limit which would mean I was probably bang on the limit. That’s hardly dangerous is it compared to a truck that cant stop. But of course no that’s my fault.If your boss give me that attitude then it would go to the police straight away.
You haven’t seen the footage of how close he was. It wasn’t just me deeming it as dangerous, it was black and white it WAS dangerous.
So with the information you had telling you that you were speeding you still continued to do so? So it’s ok for you to do illegal things but no one else is allowed to do something you deem to be wrong?
It must be nice to have the police on speed dial as your own personal servants to run to you and punish everyone you deem to be deserving of it.
So it’s perfectly fine for you to speed, which is an offence, but everyone else must not do anything that you, whoever you are to judge, deem as dangerous is to be reported and sacked?
Would love you to phone my boss, so you can be told to f[zb]k off and mind your own business.
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ive had it a few times and we have just had a laugh at it if the calls been recorded and theyve been told to ■■■■ off…
when i had my own motors on the road i had a cpl complaints about the driver ( me),then amused myself letting them tell me the inflated story ( its always inflated),then listen to them as they get told they are just a fanny.
lookslike dickypricky has spat the dummy out and is leaving forever how will we cope without being told the error of our ways…how long till another addition to the road commander/armchair viking reinvents itself 
Saw a Hermes driver get pulled for using his phone while driving yesterday.
Coming on to the M6 at spaghetti saw him go past as I came up the slip road casually scrolling on his phone. Eyes away from the road. If he had been looking he would have seen the plain grey BMW driving alongside him.
He did see the big follow me sign and blue flashing lights though.
No need to call the police, although he may need to call someone for a new job.
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