So why take six lines of script when it could be said (and more understandable) in two ?
Dover /Calais ships running from Zeebrugge did have problems - it took an age to discharge and reload as Zeebrugge had a single deck linkspan and the boats were double deck loading.
The major contributing factor to the Herald sinking was because it was ballasted nose down so the linkspan could load the top garage deck.
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I always thought that the major contributing factor was that someone never pulled the ramp up tight…if only I hadn’t decided to spend my wages on that 24 hour special 5 girl session in Antwerp on the way down…there but for the grace of god.etcetcetc
Skipperstrasse ■■?
macplaxton:
A 'leggy? You’d be spoiling him Luke with a nice car like that. Give him a Maestro Clubfoot Diesel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMCFeoR9oSg
Superb!
/backontopic
They where pish poor cars alright, nicknamed mousetraps,lol, then there was that other sad excuse for a car the allegro or princess shudder shudder
fast track
raymundo:
Skipperstrasse ■■?
the very place…always best not to go round the back of the trailer for a pee whe your bladdered as you will prob forget the end of the trailer is overhanging the water…
mattecube:
fast track
FASTER… youtube.com/watch?v=OmqOlxNQABI
I also support the requirement for versatility on routes with large volumes and very short turnaround. for example, M/F Ambal, built originally for the removal of Russian troops from East Germany, it features the highly-efficient internal loading ramp, it can also carry trains, probably has some room for livestock and you can use crude oil as fuel.
last time I was on one of it’s sister ships (nynashamn, sweden to ventspils, latvija ca 2005) it took about two and a half hours to disembark from top deck but then again, it only needs a single linkspan!
milodon:
I also support the requirement for versatility on routes with large volumes and very short turnaround. for example, M/F Ambal, built originally for the removal of Russian troops from East Germany, it features the highly-efficient internal loading ramp, it can also carry trains, probably has some room for livestock and you can use crude oil as fuel.last time I was on one of it’s sister ships (nynashamn, sweden to ventspils, latvija ca 2005) it took about two and a half hours to disembark from top deck but then again, it only needs a single linkspan!
Most of the modern self sufficient ramp designs also allow for simultaneous loading and unloading of all the decks using seperate hatchways and wide full width links also on a self sufficient basis.As in the case of most Mediterranean services.
Someone’s been on a ship builders website
switchlogic:
Someone’s been on a ship builders website
No just plenty of trips to/from Sicily and Sardinia from Genoa using GNV.Which load/tip three different decks at once using seperate ramps in the ships and their own docking link as shown in the vid I posted previously .
youtube.com/watch?v=X8k2BKu-vkk
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CF when did you do your last ferry trip?
and they’re still trying for the tunnel
The French are clearly extracting the urine. Close the tunnel and the border with France and hurt their trade. They are in the Euro not us so they will suffer far more and then see if they suddenly start policing Calais properly.
raymundo:
CF when did you do your last ferry trip?
I haven’t used any Mediterranean services since 2010.While the cost and flexibility issue obviously long since made Dover Calais the service of choice to get to the continent.The last crossing I did in that regard was 2013.
‘However’ the relevant bit for the topic is that I decided to give up on the idea of a trip I wanted to go on last week which obviously ‘would have’ been using Dover Calais.Because of all the potential aggravation of cancellations on that service and over demand and under capacity on the alternative routes.All that in large part caused by the inability to re route Dover Calais services easily. Arguably because of a ship design which results in over dependence on the ability to dock in Calais and an enforced trading environment which has reduced capacity on the alternative routes.
While I don’t think that the fact I haven’t met the criterea of more than 12 crossings per day 8 days per week for the last 57 years makes any difference to that issue.
alder:
The French are clearly extracting the urine. Close the tunnel and the border with France and hurt their trade. They are in the Euro not us so they will suffer far more and then see if they suddenly start policing Calais properly.
It’s more like the bleeding heart socialist and cheap labour Con alliance here which is attracting them which is the problem.Which will become clear if/when Le Pen gets voted in and starts deporting them back to where they belong in Africa and Asia.
Speccing a ferry to cover every eventuality is a bit like how Carryfast would spec 6x4 trucks because it snows once a year! Expensive and a bit silly.
switchlogic:
Speccing a ferry to cover every eventuality is a bit like how Carryfast would spec 6x4 trucks because it snows once a year! Expensive and a bit silly.
Like at least going back to a more distance ferry route friendly trading environment I’d imagine that a shift right across Europe away from the 40t on 5 axles idea to around at least 45t on 6 might change that outlook.
On that note I think there would at least be a case for investment in one of those GNV Mediterranean route,multi deck loading,single level docking,type designs,on a re instated Dover to Zeebrugge service.